It will be the first hand paries like me who point out this malpractice and take a lawyers hand legally walking them through the legal system pointing out what is already in it.
Right now it is to muddied, and spread out in a incoherent fashion for lawyers, or the goverment to see it. In the united states these type of issues don't get addressed without there arising a public outcry of foul play going on.
When the public voice becomes loud enough for the legal system, and goverment to hear. Then they step in and look at what is up.
That is how our goverment works, it is based on the squeky wheel getting the grease in getting things done legally, and politically in the US.
I accept this, and have entrenched myself for a life long battle in addressing this legal aspect of LGAT's. I am in my forties, so that means I have a good forty more years of being an advocate that is going to do every thing that I can to create an organization that will continue when I die to deal with this LGAT issue in our nation, and world.
Brian Klemmer states in his seminars that he wants people to be playing on the world level because there are some very big problems in our world. Well, Thank you Brian. You have proved that loud and clear in the psychological damage done from Klemmer & Associates and how your company contradicts itself in what it creates in peoples lives.
The soon to be divorced wife that I am dealing with as a direct result of applying your crap philsophy that failed to stand impartial in how you dealt with both of us going through your seminars at two different times as my wife broke her commitment to professional marriage counseling to let them sort our marriage, or even if needed let it be in that realm be a decision of divorce between us.
Your companies stance of supporting my wife to not only break this committment to counseling, but the stance of saying your supporting my wife in accepting her greatness at my expense is a total contradiction of every thing you say you stand for in how we should interact with each other as ethical leaders.
Your failure to show up walking your talk as a company in this situation has showed the hypocrisy of your overall crap philosophy that I have been discovering exists in all LGAT's as it produces carbon copy destructiveness in many other trouble marriages, and even in many that did not have troubles prior to going.
In time, in time the legal hammer will fall. I have a good forty years to helping to direct the legal, and govermental authorities in seeing the existing laws that are already in the judicial system and to develop this hammer that will fall legally. In time, its just guiding the right people by the hand to connect the dots in this.
It will take some years, but no matter.
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Hi Rswinter
I understand you completely, I was actually talking of a more general picture of how to prevent these phenomena rather than have to fight them after.
As for the waiver, i am no lawyer, so i have really no idea how to solve that.
I don't really remember the staff i studied in high school, but i think there's this legal concept here in Europe that a civil right is still valid even if someone waive it away. I remember this example about slavery that would still be illegal even if someone agrees to be enslaved. LGATs do hurt people. And legally, damage is damage is damage. Maybe the waiver they made us sign has f***ed our chance to get a compensation, but it should not protect them from the malpractice accuses. At least a fine, a bad record....I repeat, i am no lawyer, i'm just writing down ideas, and my very small legal knowledge is european-based, don't know about the US system. Landmark waiver is based on the statement 'this is no therapy so bad-therapy-like effects are not to be considered responsibility of landmark', or something like that, i don't remember. They KNOW it IS therapy (kind-of). They do. There is bad faith there and they perfectly know it. They would deny that on court, obviously.
Maybe they could be sued by third people indirectly damaged. What about abandoned husbands or wives or kids or friends? they didn't sign any waiver but they suffered indirectly because of the LGATs. How could the LGATs protect themselves from that? I've read a thread by a man who lost her wife after she went to PSI. He could sue PSI for intentional infliction of emotional distress (is this the term?). After all, PSI made her leave him. I don't really remember the thread, so imagine this i just wrote above as a general example.
So, maybe third parties could have more chance against LGATs on the legal grounds. And once the damage is proven, even those who signed the waiver could have an extra point on their side...I don't know, i'm just wondering. If there is any expert here i'd be happy to know their opinions.