QuoteBut tell me, what does it take for someone to leave LE ? You say your friends finaly left LE even though they wanted also to be Forum leaders at some point. Can you explained what happened and how they managed to get out of it? Any convincing arguments to take somebody out of LE mind control? I wish I could tell you. I believe my friends simply had lives that were too busy and too full to
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I believe the "Forum Leader" thing is a pretty much unreachable carrot LE dangles in front of just about everyone who sticks with LE for more than a weekend. My friend and his wife also spoke about becoming Forum leaders (they finally left LE, thank goodness). From what I understand, becoming a Forum leader takes years and years of seminar-attending and signing up tons of people. Plus,
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I wonder how far you have to get into the Cuddle Party "training" before it DOES become a series of orgies? It sounds to me like their "for the public" PR story about it being "just cuddling" is simply a reassuring way to get people to attend their first "safe" cuddle party, and then they slowly erode your normal barriers until the people who keep coming ba
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From their FAQs: QuoteCuddle Lifeguard On Duty? What's that? Cuddle Lifeguards are a select group of amazing individuals who are specially trained and certified in how to facilitate Cuddle Parties. They are responsible for ensuring the integrity of the room, meaning that no sex happens, that everyone feels safe, and that the sexual energy, when it shows up, is dispersed safely. They, a
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Hi, freeheart, sorry to hear about your misfortune. Your group sounds very much like Landmark and Lifespring. Your group may not be listed on this site, because it's difficult to keep pace with all the coercive groups that grow from other groups or pop up all the time. But most of these groups have a tremendous amount in common, so there's a lot on this site that can help. I don&#
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Judge Put Under Protection After Husband and Mother Are Killed By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: March 1, 2005 Filed at 4:20 p.m. ET CHICAGO (AP) -- A federal judge who was once the target of a failed murder plot by a white supremacist was under marshals' protection Tuesday following the shooting deaths of her husband and 89-year-old mother, and investigators were looking into po
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I remember when I was in my mid teens. My family had gone out for a few hours and I was alone in the house. It was midafternoon. Suddenly, I heard thumping from up in the attic. This was followed by dragging sounds. I knew what it was -- our house was haunted and there were ghosts up there, dragging dead bodies around! Scared for my life, I ran out and sat on the front steps. Eventually my par
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I watched this program -- it was disgusting. People are traveling from all over the world to be "operated on" by this charlatan -- who jams forceps up people's noses to "cure" them -- and ABC did a fantastic job of making it look like he just might be performing "miracles." For instance, the one doctor they consulted for a second opinion," Dr. Mehmet Oz, is
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Oy, vey: ************* Feb 17, 10:55 AM EST Vatican University Debuts Satanism Classes By ANGELA DOLAND Associated Press Writer ROME (AP) -- Worried about the lure of the devil, a Vatican-linked university on Thursday debuted its latest course offering: a class on Satanism, black magic and exorcism. The class for clergy and seminarians at Rome's Pontifical Academy "
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Missing... Richard Leape went missing after his involvement with the Kenja Communications group Happier days... Cornelia Rau on holiday in Queensland and (inset) Ken Dyers This is the face behind a cult By LISA DAVIES February 10, 2005 THIS is the guru behind the mysterious religious cult attended by Baxter detention centre victim Cornelia Rau. Elusive millionaire Ken
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Another article: Cornelia and the cult ofpower By LISA DAVIES, BRYAN LITTLELY ansd PAUL STARICK 08feb05 THE mentally ill woman wrongly locked up in Baxter Detention Centre slid into schizophrenia while a member of a religious cult. German-born former Qantas flight attendant Cornelia Rau became an initiate of a secretive Sydney group which practises self-empowerment. Today, The Adverti
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An article today about the missing woman: Transcript This is a transcript from PM. The program is broadcast around Australia at 5:10pm on Radio National and 6:10pm on ABC Local Radio. You can also listen to the story in REAL AUDIO and WINDOWS MEDIA formats. Chris Rau disappointed inquiry will be held in privatePRINT FRIENDLYEMAIL STORY PM - Tuesday, 8 February , 2005  18:14:00 Reporter:
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Looking up Kenja, I'm horrified at their approach to roping people in -- it all sounds so innocent. childlike and fun. Especially "Klowning," which sounds like it's just joking around but no doubt is meant to regress people into a childlike state of acceptance. An article about cults in Australia: Quote Sunday Age (Melbourne), Sun 03 Apr 1994 Inside the cults of mi
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I find it amazing that this poster just assumes that nobody here is black.
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An article from Newsweek: Copyright 1997 Newsweek October 20, 1997 Monday Deepak's Instant Karma BY JOHN LELAND AND CARLA POWER With VIBHUTI PATEL, CORIE BROWN and JENNIFER TANAKA The guru has seven new spiritual laws and plans for a global empire. Would you buy a used mantra from this man? IF A BEARER OF TRUE ENLIGHTENment arrived among us, what would he leave on your voice ma
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No junior leadershipping for me, thanks.
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Sorry to hear your news. I'm trying to find info on this group specifically, but in the meantime, here's some general info to help you get started. Warning signs: Coping strategies: Lifton's Eight Criteria: A psychological study of Lifespring training:
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QuoteFrom what I'm beginning to understand about Landmark There's a lot of information here about Landmark, as well as other coercive groups. Take a read: It helps to have an overview of what these groups are about.
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One thing I find amazing is that Landmark encourages you to "be honest and take what you have coming," encouraging you to speak up to your boss, for example, about what you don't like about your job (which could lead to getting fired). But at the same time, they set people up for humilation in a work-like setting and DIScourage those same people from speaking up about what bothers
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Interesting. In advertising, ads are "mocked up;" you do a "mock up" to show a client what the finished ad will look like. It's incredible how much of people's time Landmark takes up. It's like having a second full-time job. You work all week and go to LEC meetings at night, and then you spend your weekends doing "mocks" and intros and attending eve
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Does anyone know what a "mock" is, in Landmark terms? I'm wondering if it's the same as a mock in Scientology?
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My best guess as to the "translations" of these "seven commendments" (please note that Landmark doesn't call itself a religion, but doesn't this sound like "the Ten Commandments" to you?): "Be Racket-Free: give up being right - even when you know you were. " "Be Peaceful: give up the interpretation that there's something wrong. &qu
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Where'd you find the "seven commandments"?
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It is the opposite of empowerment. I believe my friend is going through the same training, as well. :(
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How awful. I'm so sorry for you. It breaks my heart to think of my friend going through this every week....a grown man with a (truly) extraordinary career and amazing talent being embarassed and treated like a child. (His wife, too.)
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Posted on the internet by a Landmark leader (I've removed people's last names to save them further embarassment): QuoteI am declaring a breakdown around statistics and request your support in managing this week's report. The following participants have not reported: Angela N**** Honey F***** Brian S****** Laurie S********** Steven C*** Bob C****** Marisol P***** Pl
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So rather than reaching into your wallet and giving, you can work for Landmark for a day and obsess over your own feelings..."rationalize" your giving. How sad.
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I've been reading some of the public Landmark newsgroups, and it seems another method of recruitment is for female attendees to go to battered women's shelters and offer a "miracle makeover." Just what battered women need...someone sucking them into a "cultlike group."
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From Landmark: QuoteThe distinction: Making a difference Feeling good does not make a difference Deep understanding does not make a difference Having an insight does not make a difference Helping someone does not make a difference Having information does not make a difference From The New Yorker: January 16, 2005 AFTER THE FLOOD THE THIRD "R" The South Indian fishing
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>From this week's New Yorker: January 16, 2005 COLD CASE DEPT. VISITING PREACHER KILLEN A sign on the narrow road that leads to Edgar Ray Killen's house, in the low hills southeast of Philadelphia, Mississippi, reads "If You Don't Believe in God, the Hellfire Awaits You." On the morning that I visited him, a few years ago, Killen, a reputed Ku Klux Klans
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