Welcome, Algol. Thank you for your kind words. I think your questions may be answered if you read the rest of the thread. If not, please let me know.
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QuoteThe Biggest Douche and Biggest Douche Bag in the Universe Excuse my French, but I'm trying to avoid being sued for referring to David R. Hawkins. He's the retired psychiatrist who thinks applied kinesiology (AK) is a perfect lie detector in the hands of someone like himself who calibrates his own level of consciousness as just below god or some such thing. Anyway, for some time
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The Emperor's New Clothes — David Hawkins' absolute calibration of truth Andrew P—09/2007 David Hawkins is a controversial spiritual teacher who claims that consciousness/truth can be objectively calibrated by the muscle test. This is an in-depth investigation into this claim. QuoteIF YOU VISIT WIKIPEDIA and look up Dr. David Hawkins, the American psychiatrist who has over the last
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QuoterrmoderatorKeep in mind that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Note their disclaimers. Anyone can potentially put anything on Wikipedia. And a group or leader's devoted followers can swamp an entry. That's true. That's why it has been deleted. His followers kept complaining about any negative comment in the article no matter how well-sourced and legitimate (such as fro
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Hawkins' Wikipedia article has been deleted completely There is still a version of it available here If you want to hear some craziness
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Dr. Carroll added a new essay to his site on July 16, 2007 that may get at some of what you are saying. It is titled "Evaluating Personal Experience" Carroll addresses anecdotal evidence specifically regarding AK and Hawkins, among other subjects, and speaks to the need for controlled experiments over personal testimony. There is some information on the Rick Ross site regarding
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Quotetbonegeek18Hello everyone! David Hawkins is one of my many teachers. Who are your other teachers? Quotetbonegeek18One thing I notice is some apparent contradictions in his AK. However - I can't but notice the presense that he speaks of. Not only this, but I count myself as on the Pathway of the Heart. The only thing I pay attention to in his work is his parts on love and givin
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QuoterrmoderatorPraising and/or promoting Ramana or any other philosophy or religious writer, thinker is not the purpose of this board. This is a violation of the rules regarding promoting beliefs and essentially preaching. I was responding to Shimon's most recent post on this thread. I understand; thanks for the clarification. I think Shimon was expressing choosing one teacher who
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QuoterrmoderatorPlease don't use this board to promote your personal religious beliefs. For purposes of clarity, if this is in reference to the comedians I referred to such as Swami Beyondanda and CosCon, that was just for purposes of humor. I don't think they are real teachers nor have religious beliefs that I know of. If in reference to Shimon stating that he wants to stick with Raman
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QuoteshimonI thought it over and i am going to go and read Ramana Maharshi now instead of Hawkins. I cant go wrong with him or be misled by him or have to worry about any cult like tendencies with him, for there are none. He is dead and his teachings shine through pristinely. There are no calibrations or levels in his teachings. There is just Reality. Gotta love good old Ramana. It is best that i
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At least CosCon tells you who she is upfront :lol: QuoteAbout Me Insufferable narcissist...but enough about me. What about you? For example, what do you think about me? Who has the bigger ego, the person who laughs at themselves like this or the person who believes they have transcended it all and believes they are God and a genius?
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QuoteshimonAfter watching the hawkins dvd, i am even more convinced that it is hard to tell a true teacher from a false one. He is very entertaining, comical, had me laughing a lot, he really is a funny guy. Check out Swami Beyondanada Cosmic Connie (She posts here too ) For more see Sarlo's humor page QuoteThere's a lot to be said for shallowness, and the unexamined life c
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QuoteshimonI like how at the begginning there was more activiity and more people sharing and posting. I wonder why no one is posting abotu Hawkins anymore. You have any clue? I think it is because they weren't addressing the actual information and had no leg to stand on. Hawkins and followers offer ad hominem attacks but not much intelligent (or loving, forgiving, and nonjudgmental) dialogu
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Dr David Hawkins | Power vs. Force www.level-of-consciousness.org QuoteHelp Find Missing Girl Orbital: Hi, You may have heard in the news about the young girl, Madeleine McCann, who has gone missing while on holiday in Portugal. It's been all over the news in the UK, at least. I just recently had the idea of trying to find whether she is still alive / where she is using kinesiology. Wo
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I found some other sources that mention Hawkins through Ross' site. "Tapping into inner happiness: The message of many gurus is oddly similar: Joy and peace follow enlightenment" Edmonton Sun, Canada/April 17, 2006 By Jeremy Loome QuoteDr. David Hawkins has his own publishing company, pushing the combination of spirituality and applied kinesiology...But for every m
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QuoteshimonAnother of Hawkins calibrations that is goofy is that of Ramesh Balsekar at 760. 600 + is enlightenment and ramesh is way over 600 and rameshes guru was Nisargadatta Maharaj which calibrated at 720, the same as Ramana Maharshi. Both Ramana and Nisargadatta were considered two of the greatest teachers of all time. ANd hawkins calibrates ramesh as higher than these two, and from what i r
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QuoteshimonI only have a minute. but wanted to say that i talked to a few buddhists recently and they confirmed to me that the dalai lama is indeed enlightened, is a living Buddha. Hawkins calibrates him at 570 only, which is very high, but not yet enlightened. THey made it clear to me that he has exhausted all of his karma and is enlightened. so for hawkins to say he is not enlightened proves hi
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QuoteshimonEven for the greatest teachers of all time, like Jesus or Buddha you will find those who disagree with their teachings. QuoteMonks, if anyone should speak in disparagement of me, of the Dharma or of the Sangha, you should not be angry, resentful or upset on that account. If you were to be angry or displeased at such disparagement, that would only be a hindrance to you. For if others di
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QuoteSri Ramana's response to criticism A true sage lives their life as they teach it. If their words are full of love and compassion, nonduality, and lack of egotism, then their attitude in life should be too. This is how one tells the True Teacher from the False Guru. Nowhere is this more clear than in the response of Sri Ramana Maharshi to criticism, slander, and lies said about him
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Cults.co.nz -- New Zealand Cults, Sects, Religions, Christian Organisations, and other groups. QuoteSite Changes, June 2007: David R Hawkins - mystic author. QuoteHawkins, David R. Danger David R Hawkins is said to have a following in New Zealand and Australia. He is described by Wikipedia as being an American psychiatrist, mystic, author and spiritual teacher in Sedona, Arizona. Ro
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QuoteshimonWhy would hawkins delete all references to kinesiology in his books? That makes no sense to me. You cant delete all the books that are out there, are you referring to new versions, they wont have references to kinesilogy in them. WHat is going on. Hawkins uses ktesting and calibrations in all of his talks, seminars, workshops, books, videos. AM i missing something here. Please explain
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QuoteGeminiWant to know how to make God laugh? Tell God your The Secret plans! best Gemini Gemini is a follower of David R. Hawkins and has been private messaging lies about me to discredit the factual information on that thread about Hawkins.
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Quoteshimonjust as many negative reviews of hawkins works are out there, you can find just as many praiseworthy ones. ONes where they praise him and think he is the best teacher out there. So reviews dont mean that much to me, you will find good ones and bad ones. Even for the greatest teachers of all time, like Jesus or Buddha you will find those who disagree with their teachings. But some of th
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I've confirmed that Hawkins' lawyers were behind the censoring of the Wikipedia article on Hawkins. I hear that Hawkins would not like to be on Wikipedia as it has brought him a lot of troubles. For example, because of the article, Hawkins has decided to delete all reference to “kinesiology” from any and all of his books. I am overwhelmed by his enlightened integrity. QuoteWe chang
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Here's more... QuotePure Quackery, January 29, 2006 By Thomas John (San Jose, CA, USA) Hawkins states that people in developing countries should be grateful for corporate exploitation. They would otherwise starve, he explains. He also rates WalMart has having extremely high integrity. Never mind the mistreatment of its workers for which WalMart recently paid millions to avoid going to t
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QuoteshimonI did look at amazons book reviews for hawkins latest book, Devotional Nonduality and I only saw 5 reviews, and all five of them gave it the highest marks, and highly recommend the book. QuoteDevotional Nonduality (Discovery of the Presence of God) Amazon.com Sales Rank: #105,018 in Books I took a look at the Amazon reviews. Here is a sample: QuoteMay 11, 2004 By John Cole (Dallas,
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QuoteSkeptics, skeptics, skeptics …Of course, I remember when Copernicus suggested that the Earth was not only not flat but that it also revolved around the Sun, he was the only person on the Earth at that time who believed it. "Everyone" else on the planet thought Copernicus was wrong, didn't they? When Marconi told his "friends" what he was doing in his laborato
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QuoteshimonI just found out that Hawkins cancelled his europe schedule for Hay House and will be issuing refunds. Ah darn, those europeans wanted to see Hawkins and see his ktesting in person...Phoenix Potter if you can find out why he cancelled his european schedule I would find that interesting. According to Hay House in London: QuoteDue to health reasons David Hawkins has had to cancel his ta
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There are many great discussions and comments out there regarding Hawkins on various sites and threads that anyone can find. I have found very many to be interesting and insightful. I would like to share comments that are especially good from just one person, and also one of the interesting dialogues out there. QuoteBig Red Flags Like so many things I read, at first blush, I dug it. Th
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A person recently emailed me expressing concern that it looked like I might be endorsing Gary Renard (I referenced him because he criticized Hawkins and is also a Dyer-endorsed, Hay House author). Here are some links on Renard for anyone who might have been concerned:
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