Another old post from NewDayNews Crossfire about the MEETING NewDayNews Crossfire revolute change or die By:WARS NEW TACTICS Date: Wednesday, 26 March 2003, at 2:36 pm Every thing must revolute or face stagnation the Jesuschristians have changed battle plans now its the rich Hollywood etc that is being saturated with their message. The Family Trust Freelance and David Mckay and some Jesu
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Dave has been misrepresenting some of the commments and questions I posted, pretending that he has refuted them. He is employing cheap straw man tactics in an attempt to dump the Children of God connection and sidestep some uncomfortabel questions. It is common knowledge that JC literature is heavily based on Berg literature. Dave himself claimed that he started out as a COG shepherd. There is
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McKay remaning countries ha MCMerica, McFrance, Mc Hell but here is a link to the original version of Gangsters paradise. Helped me to appreciate the joke
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:) :) :lol: :D :lol: Another Newdaynews post from the archives. NDN is a site for ex mambers of the Family or COG. It appears that they were tiring of Dave's posts and efforts to attract ex Family members to the JC's and began to take the 'mickey'. :) :) :lol: :D :lol: :) :) :lol: :D :lol: :) :) :lol: :D :lol: :) :) :lol: :D :lol: :) :)
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n 23 December 2003 someone called Hope (aka Freelance) posted a message on newdaynews.com confirming that 'The Family and the Jesuschristians had a get together in Ocean Beach California. ' .....' This was organized by Freelance.' One of the topics under discussion was the latest Family teaching the LJR or the Loving Jesus Revolution. there have been other meetings, thi
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QuoteXenophoneZeuszor, I've noticed that the last 15 or so posts have been from you, and no one else has posted. Perhaps you should "reel it in" a bit, don't you think? Hi Xenophone, Good to see you here. Zeusor's questions are very distressing for Dave and that is not necessarily a bad thing because he needs to hear what he does not want to hear. Dave complained
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Have posted this on the ' Australian cult' thread. posted here in error. Please delete this thread.
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Quote: _________________ Quote: There are Friends like myself who not only believe in the existence of God, but who actually love him and worship him. Any suggestion that our love for God is the cause of all the troubles in the world is understandably offensive to us. I do not think we are deluded, and I do not think it is appropriate to even suggest such a thing. We believers in God
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Quote _________________ Quote There are Friends like myself who not only believe in the existence of God, but who actually love him and worship him. Any suggestion that our love for God is the cause of all the troubles in the world is understandably offensive to us. I do not think we are deluded, and I do not think it is appropriate to even suggest such a thing. We believers in God have
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Malcolm Check your PM for fowarded email address. Apostate You have spelt it out clearly. Dave's cpmments regarding an attempted murder charge are calculated to influence the outcome. There is no charge of attempted murder and his attempts to suggest otherwise are typical. Dave just gets everything wrong! Link here to an article posted on this site Extract Loss of a Fort
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A parent was asked to RENOUNCE a friend and a journalist, but refused this ludicrous request. The parent was immediately ostracised and denied contact with a family member in the group.
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Good luck with your site, sWord. Sorry to hear that your goods and money were stolen and that one of your family is a victim.
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QuoteapostateDavid McKay teaches children to dishonor their parents. He sows division in families by lying to children that their parents do not really love them. He works to blind children to the sacrifices parents have made to help children meet their goals before Dave came along. His latest recruit Joseph is a classic example of such a tactic. Dave teaches Joseph that his parents are selfi
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QuotesWordQuotezeuszorHey Dave and all the rest of you JCs...what's up with all the "private teachings" on your site? True Christianity has no "private teachings", no secrets. It is proclaimed joyously and publicly from the rooftops. Christianity has no "private teachings". Are you disciles of Jesus and servants of the Most High God, or some Gnostic cult whe
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QuoteapostateAnother edifying quote from David McKay "It is amazing how many of these bitter ex-members were actually pretty hopeless when they joined us" SOURCE: (1 JAN. 2007) I wonder if new recruits, like Joseph, or Grace, are told they are "hopeless" when they join, or will David save that for when they leave? A telling window into the mind of a cult leader and
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QuotematildaYou believe the myths!!! Dave´s group can not be compared to even the most corrupt church. It can be compared to the Family and Dave has copied most of his publicity stunts directly from them. The Baby books are copied. The sackcloth and ashes ruse was copied. The forsake all policy was copied. The litnessing policy was copied. The list is endless. I am posting a link to a b
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Hi Malcolm, What did you mean by the quote below? Was Dave sacked from Petersham? Why? QuoteMalcolm Wesley WREST You're no longer employed at the Boys Home in Petersham are you David. If I've been able to do that once....perhaps I'll be able to pull something similar off again............by the grace of God we shall see.
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QuoteNow we challenge anyone to show us someone who is more serious about teaching people to obey Jesus than we are... Dave. What a joke! MKcKay forbids a mother from visiting her own children Breaks up other peoples families hides potential recruits until they are 18 (but does not call that kidnapping!) whips people as a publicity stunt! and thinks that he is following Jesus! Jesus NEV
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You believe the myths!!! The trial week is designed to hold the newbie, it involves more ínreach´rather than the normal´outreach´. It is a reprogramming exercise and very few who go through it leave after it. Parents visits, another myth. Joe´s parents will not be alowed anywhere near Joe until they change their views of the group completely. Dave does not tolerate visits from anyone he co
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Thank you for the good summary muppet. The Jesus Christians under the odious leadership of the aging Dave Makay is resorting to increasingly extreme means in order to get publicity and achieve their ends but he is also burning out and his repititive and predictible statements. McKay used Fox LA to garner publicity for his group and force the police to take action against the family of a ne
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Beware those groups that deceive By Pamela Hale-Burns, Staff columnist Article Launched:11/25/2006 12:00:00 AM PST Christians have been called many things: fanatical, self-righteous, holier-than-thou and much more. At times, I, as a Christian, get tired of all the misunderstanding of our faith. Today, however, I am on the other side of the labeling when it comes to groups - what I call cu
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Dave Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 870 Location: Sydney, Australia Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: This has gone on long enough. I am bailing out here. Isn't it interesting how snipers always "bail out" just after they've sprayed everyone with gunf
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From the JC board from one angry JC named Sue pasted below Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Tony, Gee, seems like you really missed something rather crucial in the Kidneys for Jesus doc to go ahead and liken Dave to a "phoney faith healer" "gathering informa
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QuoteTuckerQuoteJack Oskar LarmI think we're all in agreement that McKay should never have stop his medication! Isn't it strangely wonderful how corrupt leaders reveal their own insanity... :D Yeah, shame the people who need to see it most, don't. This McKay person seems to be getting more and more extreme (or maybe that's just my impression as I've only been lo
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QuoteapostateQuotecultmalleushmmmm, concerning stuff QuoteBut a better example is paedophilia. Kids are not FORCED to have sex, and yet society says it is wrong. I know, I know, they are not adults. But you see, we each have our restrictions that we think makes it wrong or doesn't make it wrong. And so what we decided to experiment with is just trying to follow the rules as we honestl
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From newdaynews.com
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Extract from a post by Dave McKay This post is by an unregistered user. Please encourage users who care enough to post to register, too! 16-Nov-06, 04:00 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Dave McKay's 'kidney cult' flogged on Fox" In response to message #24 LAST EDITED ON 16-Nov-06 AT 04:01 AM (EST) '' Fair enough comment, Connie and Cathcull. I asked w
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The following represent some traits of a typically 'cultic' scenario, common to high demand groups with a tremendous potential for damage. How familair do these sound to you? 1. New recruits will be instructed to keep their intentions quiet or secret from their friends and family, until after they have joined and/ or disappeared, fuelling a great deal of worry and distress.
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