This video almost made me sick. It is way too real and true.
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Please watch this short video on how people are mind controlled into a cult. I cannot believe I got fooled. Everybody in the world needs to watch this.
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My experiences may me very differnt. However for those who have doubts about what I say, somebody has written a book. As I said t before, we cannot just speak of this path without considering the extraordinary aspect of it. Why people get so hooked and attached. Otherwise we all pass for a bunch of lunatic, mindless, weaklings who just got brainwashed by a mortal guru. I think I am the only p
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I have been part of this forum and community for a few months now. I am asking you all to receive what I am saying with an open mind, compassion and a very open heart. I know that it is not easy to enter my reality without judging my lucidity. However I can assure you that unfortunately I do not make things up. If you ever read my post on “the mystical forces that led me to to K...”, you will
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Just wanted to make it clear that by taking justice in my own hands, I meant exposing them even more outside of this forum. Nothing extreme! Also it is still a mystery to me how some so called divine forces allow such horrible things to happen. The priests abusing kids, the abuse in the Krishna community, the fanaticism in islam.... I just know that a good teacher can create an atmosphere o
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Thank you Forzen Nick. I appreciate that you believe me and that you have appreciation for my honesty. My experiences go beyond the sweet connections with the deities. It is on the level that most people think it was psychosis. But I know that all that I have experienced is real and do not need validation. I may be one of the only people who faced the cult directly and told them everything I r
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Thank you George.
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When butler decided to create a more godly society with his secret weapon: Tulsi Gabbard, he did not know he would shoot himself in the foot. A man who thinks that he is the voice of god on earth and who is actually shaming the Parampara. It took decades of damaging many souls for him to finally get what he deserves. I feel sorry for Tulsi. I hope one day she will realize that it was not wort
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I believe that each soul is on their individual journey. And each person is on a different level of spiritual maturity. This place is a huge spiritual supermarket. Abrahamic religions, The vedas, new age, Eastern philosophies.... I don’t think there is a right or wrong path and I try my best not to judge other’s tragectories. I have had many mind blowing experiences with the path and I have n
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Not all theories are correct and not all are wrong. I have experienced and seen things with my eyes that no conspiracy theory can even cover. This is why I try to keep an open mind. But I do understand that it can be extremely disturbing to one’s peace of mind. Discernment is key.
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In all my years of chanting I was never given the impression that the ultimate goal was to be a gopi. we were told that our relationship would be revealed to us and it could be any of the 5 Rasas. Bye for now. See you guys later!
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Bhaktivedanta does come across as a kind being. Howevever he did make some comments that are very questionable. I greatly appreciate your sacrifice for bringing this path to the west. And I will never forget what it did for me. I do believe he was very linked to the deities he served and they gave him inspiration and strength. I also heard he told people Kirtanananda was a pure devotee. And t
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Whirlwind if you are attached to this process, get in touch with the Narayana Maharaja group. I communicated with a very nice disciple who used to be with iskcon. When ACBP left the planet, she became a discipe of Narayana Maharaja. They are much cleaner and decent people. Say goodbye to those abusive,fanatical lunatics.
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Very good read.
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It is time for the followers to stop fooling themselves and put a big picture of Butt (ler) in the middle instead of the deities. This has become a butler worship cult. The level of power that he has over the followers is much greater than the power of so-called God (s). He has gone way beyond his role of middleman and he has become the center man. Unless God is an abuser, I am not sure how
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What is chastisement in reality in the SOI= GLORIFIED ABUSE Please do not underestimate the damage they are creating on a soul level.
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What is a mind game in the group is the polarity of it. Butler is half Moses half Pharaoh. On one side he helps people to some extent spiritually and on the other side he treats them like slaves. Slaves that built an empire for him. Fear, control are mixed with kindness,love... The typical narcissistic dynamics which keeps people in an emotional prison until they realize what is going on.
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Run forest run is there even more garbage that we are not aware of? Peverted lifesyle? What more goes on behind the butler doors that we have not discussed in here. Perverted can have a few meanings. It is truly time for EVERYTHING to be revealed.
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One thing that makes me laugh or cry so hard is butler’s claim that the devotee of krishna is Atmarama. Self satisfied. This on top of the fear of offenses to the pure devotee mind control via fear. He needs noone but krishna and he is doing us all a favor. That it is a calamity to put up with all the disciples and students. I understand this must be the case with some genuine saddhus. Those
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Not sure why all my message did not show. I know a devotee who said she was deserving to get hit by a car because she was offensive in her mind. She truly said to me she thought something terrible would happen to her due to offense. In her MIND CONTROLLED mind. To be able to scare people to this degree and make them relish in their punishment is not divine. SoI = Mind control.
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I truly want everybody to consider the psychological crimes that has been commited in the Krishna cults. We cannot underestimate the level of damage and lunacy that goes on in there. On one side they brainwash you day and night that the lords are the most loving and forgiving. On the other side, they are waiting and ready to punish devotees. An ex devotee friend was almost killed by an intoxi
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I truly want everybody to consider the psychological crimes that has been commited in the Krishna cult. We cannot underestimate the level of damage and lunacy that goes on in there. On one side they brainwash you day and night that the lords are the most loving and forgiving ever. On the other side, they are waiting and ready to punish devotees. An ex devotee friend was almost killed by an in
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I truly want everybody to consider the psychological crimes that has been commited in the Krishna cult. We cannot underestimate the level of damage and lunacy that goes on in there. On one side they brainwash you dayand night that the lords are the most loving and forgiving ever. On the other side, they are waiting and ready to punish devotees. When devote
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Kamz1 you should for sure share. Also contct henri jolicoeur via his youtube channel. He has testimonies from the abused men.
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I will never forget how my roommates would get home from a long day work and be forced to sit behind a computer to work for wailana. SoI is partially a free labor center for wailana and now the Tulsi campain. One devotee had to work with a super old computer. Other devotees who were tech savvy, had to come every few weeks and try to repair that computer until 2 AM. if you’re saving a minimum
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By the way , apologies for all the typos. Ipad is keeping me humble! My heart breaks for all the people who are being exploited. They think that they are doing these people a favor by using them as slaves. All because they feel bliss and there is a promise of getting off the wheel of birth an death. The criminals use devotees for free in the kitchen and fine them at the same time. What the a
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Ufortunately my personal experienes and insights do not really fit in here. I think my views may be way too fringe. We can only explore the tip of the iceberg. Noone is ready for deeperand uglier truth. I just know that the fear of offenses has been used as a tool to keep devotees in line. Also a sadisdic state of mind they use all the time. Like oh she went crazy because of offenses. He o
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This video will show how dangerous this whole OFFENSES to the pure devotee deal is. How it led to the murder of a devotee in Iskcon. A person who got invloved is blowing the whistle after decades. We should never underestimate how the fear of offenses leads to fatal fanaticism. How painful it was to always live in fear of being offensive or hearing offenses. If there was no fear of offense
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What is the highest achievement in Bhakti Yoga: “Krishna is free to do anything and everything”. Pretty much like the story of JOB. No matter what he does I will love him unconditionally. This unconditional acceptance leaves room for all kinds of abuse. In a material relationship, one is encouraged to run away from a narcissist, abusive relation. If your material father makes you cry and k
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We all have our own personal experiences and I spoke enough of mine. If a philosphy presents no dangers, then one should not be careful how it is interpreted. And in whose hands it falls. I cannot run after saintly people and find the ones who are walking the talk. Same ways as one should not shop for non pedophile priests. What is the basis of this religion? It tells you that you fell fr
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