Here’s a top six rationalisations of spiritual guru / cult leader / abuser / manipulator types for being called out. It’s not exhaustive, I don’t know it all and you are reading a list compiled by someone who has managed to trail bin juice all over their feet just this morning, so don’t get any ideas. 1- “Their perception is their reflection” Manipulative spiritual teachers love this one
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Correcting an important typo here, that’s 900 AUD mark not 600.
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As awful as the subject is, this is great info ! Abusers need others to support their rationalisations, the abusive sense of reality that they have created, so not only do they need flying monkeys to back them up in fully abusing a target, the flying monkey supports the deluded sense of reality / rationalisation (wild ideas, delusions, etc) that the abuser is living. Just as a celebrity is not
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kdag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, there's science, and then there's what > people will tolerate. There are also cultural > differences. The Japanese have been wearing masks > for years, so that's no big deal to them, but they > don't like having their businesses shut down. In > the U.S., not only do we have pe
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>It would be very kind hearted > of any of us to put that down to a simple > definition between different levels of > intelligence in leaders. > Correcting myself here that’s modes of thinking, not levels ! :-D
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Our imaginations are amazing, so much so that we sometimes perceive things that are just not true and are a trick of the brain. Plenty of people would like to capitalise on these tricks of the brain and will have no problem in frightening the shit out of anyone in order to feel a. more knowledgeable b. special, specially gifted and c. superior to you enough in order to derail you into a place
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A nice question I asked myself on this was “why is the science different globally for the same issue” - science on something is science on something, there is no variation in this situation aside from different governments, the “virus” remains the same and thus would be dealt with in the same manner globally. As we can all see this same dealing has not been and is not the case. It would be ve
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On researching most business marketing ‘guru’ type people they will all mention how a climate of fear is their best friend. Covid 19 is the ideal global climate to get things moving in the way that governments want, as many of the old systems such as oil sales and high street shopping are now fast becoming defunct ways of making money and keeping the people busy (oil due to its increasing lack
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Loriwoke Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thank you for sharing the clip Loriwoke. This is a typical behaviour of an abuser, to make a threat when they are about to be exposed. The more people dig, the closer they get.. he is scared.
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If you’ve been involved in mystery schools, freemasonry, a healing modality, and / or other related groups and subjects (chakras, hell and heaven, angels, ascended masters, caste system) you will no doubt have been exposed to the many “levels” that must be traversed in order to be respected within the circles and / or simply succeed within yourself and society as a whole. Each level of attainm
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Melanie Tonia Evans “Meltonia Enterprises” LTD, PTY. What this lady brings to the table all looks good to begin with, there is no doubt that there is a wealth of helpful information posted regarding narcissism and abusive relationships that is helpful in making sense of things, and getting a good grounding on ones own sense of reality, however... Throughout the guidance on narcissism, the a
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> That is most important, because if one is in an > altered state of consciousness that has so total > an impact, one's ability to survive may be > compromised and may never live to pass teachings > on unless others step forward to offer care and > support. Hello all, The quote above is important, definitely, and what also strikes me is that in Eckhart’s chosen
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The majority of manipulative people, spiritual teachers, and cult leaders each share are an affinity for removing other people’s preferences. They will usually try to remove our preferences by making whatever preferences we may have wrong in some way, or by blanketing a false fact that to have preference is an act of ultimate ego, so unless you remove your preferences, you cannot progress spir
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Another amazon book review. I saw this review some time ago, though it has since been added to. The section towards the end of the book that the reviewer refers to is indeed a bit of shocker when you come across it, everything seems to be going so well.. but then blam, this one drops in. “ A word of caution to LGBT people Reviewed in the United States on December 6, 2009 Verified Pur
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> enamelled image of Lakshmi and Narayan, the > perfect woman and the perfect man, which is their > aim at becoming. This always stood out to me, since there is nothing wrong with people to begin with this idea of becoming perfect is put in place which really belongs in the bin. > > In BKism, it is believed that the now deceased and > allegedly perfected founder, Lek
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zizlz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > facet Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > It’s a theme, I’ll have find examples so that I > > can share more clearly, though even in this new > > Christmas one again Shunya mentions in it that > the > > more people are a certain way, others will > fo
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> I don't see where the "intelligent" quote comes > from except Corboy's > QuoteWhen we are in crisis, we are in disarray. > No matter how street smart and intelligent we are, > depression, bereavement, leaving home, will leave > us painfully confused. > which I think is fair. I think general consensus > is a certain degree of intelligence is requ
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“On what basis does the author substantiate their claims about ex-BKs underwear drawers?” It seems to be an assumption based on the idea that those in self discipline or restraint will go wild with abandon after a while, perhaps an eager fantasy of the writer. Agreed, the comments are completely pointless aside from giving me the full belly laughs on reading. “Are you intelligent? Prov
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Karma is the idea that what is done unto others, good action or bad action, is returned to the original source to balance out the whole. Whilst wishes and beliefs most certainly belong to their master, the idea of karma really is a simple mind state created to make it easier to cope with the “unfair” nature of something perceived in our immature thinking. Karma also acts as a sort of restr
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Ps thank you for the links shared, which are an excellent resource for information.
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Hi Ex-, Thank you again for sharing your insights, which I hope you will understand are extremely valuable, to everybody who might be looking into the subjects raised here and also myself. Yes of course for traditional dress however the badge as you say, it is more of a logo from my perspective, and although it may signify rank the shape of it is the same design as a traditional nurses pock
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Hi Ex-, Yes you are right, perhaps off topic with the channeling however for me channeling, mediumship, the suggestion of absolutely anything else flowing through the being other than the person in themselves .. this is all the same thing to me and is apparent in Roberts teachings that he gives the impression of an ‘other’ working through him, to include what you say about dhristi though I onl
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In a previous thread about channelling, I have posted the following: ‘In my own personal study, I have found what is thought of as channeling to be the result of two main strings of things.. One, using natural abilities of human empathy to step in another’s shoes, in this case the given energy of what is said to be being channeled, and Two, projection of the compartments (either one, or ma
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Jehovah’s Witness are a through and through cult. If it ostracises the outside world in order to create a rigid group you have a them and us situation created. They create the problem, and offer a solution.. along with a glimmer of hope that adherents may one day account for one of the special 144,000 that are granted ‘special’ enough to get through to the new heavenly kingdom that will surviv
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Hi Ex-, Thank you for sharing your valuable experiences and link to further discussion here in your posts. “I suspect that a lot of the discussion will be uninteresting or irrelevant to anyone who was not a BK. We may pick up on bizarre subtleties that non-BKs would miss” - you answer right here why it is important that those inside might share outside, because of the subtleties that others
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“SPAC Nation: Head Of Controversial Church Steps Down” - stepping down, or taking the money and running? Good to see these updates !
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The latest David Icke response to his webshite being targeted by hackers states: ‘obviously not a bloke in his bedroom but a major player’ - Why of course it would have to be of great expense, to be somebody of note and great importance, with no female ever being able to fit the role of hacker. That’s one hilariously narcissistic and closed way of perceiving for someone who claims to have a
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facet Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Resilient, > > I really like your name ! > > Thank you for sharing, that does sound challenging > and I can relate to the challenging and delusion > bits too. > > I mean belief systems are great and we are all > free to choose them, though if like this one it > costs money, fa
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Hi Resilient, I really like your name ! Thank you for sharing, that does sound challenging and I can relate to the challenging and delusion bits too. I mean belief systems are great and we are all free to choose them, though if like this one it costs money, family, relationships with others, general sanity - all valuable things to help enjoy life then I have something to say here for any
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Great to see this thread today and read about these topics. Here’s my little bit towards it, through observation as usual. Laughing is such a social thing, often if we’re not laughing in with a specific group, especially in this sort of instance where persons are often seeking somewhere to belong or fit in, not going along with the laughter brings up fear that we will not belong to the grou
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