Haha, certainly, that doesn't beat this: https://youtu.be/pQcUH3tvlnY When style is not an option (Registered Trademark) Rama Das, you're a genius!
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Rama, Haha, luv it: when style is not an option (registered trademark). Or, the Wai Lana yoga suit. Great talent, kid. I'm hoping the absurdity is enough to wake up followers how stupid things could get when everyone gets boxed in one mind -- unchallenged, not free to even doubt. The adults are all hopeless. The funny thing, it is always the young minds like you who will have t
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Rama wrote: That is great, I know she does love me but she is trapped, cannot override her programming. She will, give her a chance, and so do the other parents. This is 2015, man. Do not underestimate the power of information and most of all — parental love. One of these days, she'll have the courage and allow her fingers to go googling and find out the truth about cults — how they man
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PARAMAHAMSA DA DRUG SMUGGLA! my fav, haha. This cult is unreal. I just can’t believe it’s 2015. Let’s face it, there’s something admirable about Chris Butler — he’s got followers! A savvy 12-year old will floor him point by point in any debate.
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To Rama, I'm deeply saddened by the story of your once beautiful family. Perhaps this will help open eyes to the danger of joining religious cults -- how that psychologically imprisons people -- taking away the humanity and potentials of an individual and denying them love they can only get from fellow human beings, in quise of serving God and false culture of spirituality. For a parent to
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "..The text of the Gita has been embedded in one > political setting after another, changing its > meaning again and again over the centuries." > > > Review by Wendy Doniger of The Bhagavad Gita: An > Autobiography > by R.H. Davis > > > he:LEQJbYFF2zUJ:www.nybooks.com
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It’s very uplifting to hear back from you, Rama. Yes, after 300 pages and it’s now 268,361 views — must be giving Prabhufraud nightmares. Just imagine, 10 years ago there were no info on the internet about the Butler cult and now the mainstream media are quoting, and you’re on one — bigtime, kid. We are The Bible of the anti-Butler cult. It was a wild ride, I’m glad you’re doing fine. Parents lik
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Mike Jones: The guru is like a hot knife, cutting out the imperfections of our false ego. It is not an easy process, not always pleasant, and sometimes outright painful. But what happens when we make it through? We surrender more to God's will, giving up our own and becoming more humbled by the whole process. Deception is like a hot knife. There’s nothing more painful than to see your l
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Haha, I'm imagining Siddhaswarup splitting the remaining hairs on his head, spitting out all the expletives known on Earth and Queen Wai Lana telling the karma bums to get out of his sight and run for their lives. I always knew one of these days, one of the big mouths in there will spew it out in the open. Secrecy is over rated, whacky people always expose themselves. Abhay Williams, you
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I’m glad the world is finally hearing about the kind of cultic mindset Tulsi Gabbard is into, through Mike Jones. Keep talking, Sir. I’m just not sure though if your master is pleased with the way you’re exposing the kind of thought reform, Mr. Butler’s presidential hopeful has got and tries so hard to hide from the public. Her criticism of Obama’s Middle East policy and approach to Islamic r
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Mike Jones, The fact that you are disturbed by this forum proves cults’ thought-reform works; always does. Unlike in a cult, public forum is an open market — no one mind-ness overlords. People are free to disagree and genuinely express feelings, thoughts and opinions; pretty much what the real world is like — both good and bad. People who get conflicted by this reality easily fall prey to conm
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QuoteVitaminC The VAST majority of the public get their information from newspapers (and their websites) ,TV (and their websites), radio, Facebook, and news portals such as Yahoo!, CNN, NPR, etc. Now I'm getting where the frustration is coming from. I don't believe this forum or the world see this issue the same proportion you do. I'm not even sure if Chris Butler or the Science
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QuoteVitaminCExcept few Americans read India.com. So if you spill your beans in the forest and no one is there to see it, are the beans really spilled? I'm not sure what century are you in? In Google Age, whether you're in Timbuktu or in New York, spilling beans online is indelible.
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US: Tulsi Gabbard to address Democrats Washington: Tulsi Gabbard, who appears all set to become the first Hindu-American to be elected to the US House of Representatives, has been invited to address the Democratic national convention in North Carolina next week. "I had the opportunity to study both Lord Krishna’s Bhagavad Gita and also the New Testament. And like Mahatma Gandhi, who a
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QuoteVera CityExposing Butler from every angle as a dangerous cult leader is the purpose of this forum. Every one has a different angle and point of reference from which they were exposed and extricated from the cult. Also important to readers of this forum is how cults work and exert undue influence on followers. This includes revealing the lies and how the cult operates. Understanding the d
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QuoteVitaminCThis is a good point made by Flashlight. These are not direct quotes. It would be immensely beneficial to everyone to have a brave soul confront her directly at one of the election debates and ask her "Yes or No: Are you a disciple or follower of Chris Butler, leader of the Science of Identity?" and again, not back down till we get a straight YES or NO answer from her.
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Here are two more articles from IndiaWest stating that Tulsi is a disciple of Jagad Guru. I just thought I post them for researchers' refs: http://www.indiawest.com/news/6068-hindu-tulsi-gabbard-wins-primary-for-congress-in-hawaii.html http://indiawest.com/news/5825-hindu-tulsi-gabbard-runs-for-congress-in-hawaii.html Hindu Tulsi Gabbard Wins Primary for Congress in Hawaii Ri
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I hope this not too off-topic, but I'm posting this because this is so central to my personal peeve with cultism; that is, brain-dead parents dragging their children into their craziness: http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/31/bill-nye-on-creationism-its-like-teaching-the-earth-is-flat/comment-page-1/ Parents, do not teach creationism “And I say to the grownups, if you want to den
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RestEasy, don't believe whatever materials given to you by the cult, especially the interviews. I was present in so many of those interviews and all of them were staged. Questions and answers seem to be the favourite format of Chris Butler and they go through so many editing before they get printed. Of course things said are a lot different than things done. Chris Butler is notorious for doi
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Getting back to the basic. This forum started first as a venue for people to provide education and information about Chris Butler and his religious cult, the Science of Identity. Incidentally, it's understandable, exposing Tulsi's connection with the cult becomes the focus, since she's a high-profile personality from the cult, but should not be the sole purpose of or the obsession
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I think we have just learned that it is not possible to beat Chris Butler on public forums. He can and will be defeated. Its only a matter of time, and time is something he may be running out of. I never liked the idea of as if this forum is contending with an equal. It's like science trying to level itself against religion. You do not need to prove that an apple is far more nutritious
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I'm glad the primary is over. So what have we learned? That majority is not always right; that the masses will do the stupidest thing for political correctness and very easily swayed by political machination, effective branding and thick budget. I hope posters here will instead focus more on maintaining the credibility and the integrity of this forum and stick more to facts in exposing the d
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Hi zombiefied, I found your post floating on top of the message board, I took the liberty of reposting this on the right thread, I hope you don't mind. Regular posters here are always happy when a new poster come on board. Welcome. We're also ex-devotees like you and our aim is to prove that there's so much more to life after leaving the cb cult, so that people that are still t
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I thought I post this. Another regular commenter for Civil Beat, seems to be aware of this forum. www.civilbeat.com Bart Dame · Top Commenter Kay, thanks for your response. While I remain very skeptical of Tulsi's conversion, I will admit I cannot predict how she will perform once in office. If I feign a little optimism, I can see the possibility for her providing good service. Had
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Here's an indirect admission of Tulsi's membership in the Butler cult: Having never visited India so far, she says she is looking to make her first trip to India as an elected member of the House of Representatives. "As a Vaishnava, I especially look forward to visiting the holy sites of Vrindavan," she said. According to her bio provided by her campaign, Tulsi�
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QuoteVoxVeritasVita DasTulsi will never make it to the highest post in the land. This thread exists to expose the truth about the Cult of Butler & to reveal Tulsi as the latest political puppet of his. The cult cannot silence all of us. I totally agree. It was a booboo on my part; can't believe I typed "to become". What I meant was, the Butler cult will aim for the high
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Vera City's post: Criticizing Religion May Become a Criminal Offense Vox comment: Will we then give free reign to the religious fanaticists who declare that they alone have the truth and will save you from the rest of the non-believers, when they themselves engage in subversive & harmful and sometimes deadly activities that have demonstrably shown over and over that they will force t
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If Science of Identity receives financing from Qnet, it just shows what kind of an organization are they and what philosophy they truly embrace. Qnet are a fraudster that victimizes the poor and the gullible. consumer watchdog We've also had feedback on various pyramid schemes and Ponzi schemes recently, almost all of it constructive and supportive. However we've also heard fro
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To Sierra Club: As far as Environment is concerned, stances aside, what has Tulsi Gabbard done really? Her record is no better than Mufi Hanneman. Sierra Club should do a lot better with their politics.
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Emily's list messed up big time this time. They failed to vet Tulsi Gabbard about her upbringing and core belief. But Truth being resilient will surface in time and prove Tulsi to be an embarrassment to Emily's list's. Ordinary folks are starting to unravel her link with a homophobic cult and distance away from her campaign; yet, she remains mum about it. If Emily's list want
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