The fact is, all cults are masterminded by psychopaths supported by weak minded followers. Psychopaths are cruel and arrogant. Their disregard to how precious life is will in no way find any place in the minds of critical thinkers. I have hope that the millenials will figure it out themselves and help bring an end to this stupid and insidious ideology and all that Chris Butler and minions worked
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You are not the body, so drop it down on my sight. Wear a blinder with Krishna and me on side to side, will keep you away from staring at those jiggling boobs during the puja. And your balls, you have to lose that too. By the way you're also not the brain. If homeschooling and chanting do not wash away your critical thinking, add in psychic sleep. Happy New Year, Truth Force. It's 2016,
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Siddhaswarup has always been an anti-parent from day one, even with his own, and he rubbed off the hate among his followers. In the early days, devotees pride themselves being one. All right, that was the 60s. The millennials are more educated now — the BS meter is intact, unlike the super emotional and delusional hippies. The notion that rebels are anti-parents is not cool anymore. Peace, lov
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Cults are experts with the law. Their lawyers know full well that the law is like cheese — it's full of holes. Like worms they wiggle out from anyone of the holes. Chances are you can only afford to peg one and they will pop out from another. Before you know it you're as poor as a rat. You can never out-fund the Butler cult when they have tons of drug-money from the drug-smuggla and fro
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Ian wrote: I don't think an 18 year old guy deciding on what he wants to believe in is outlandish or should be the concern of his mother. Fly the coupe at some point. True. But right or wrong, parents feel the same way. Just because a child turns 18 the bond automatically shuts off. The opposite is what is disturbing, when the parents themselves become instrumental in submitting the chil
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This story brings tears to my eyes. I will not add more, except for a heartbreaking memory of my one last hug to my baby who has to leave for no other reason but to separate from her disagreeing family. Since then, I hope and pray every day that she (and others like her) to get back to her senses first, then to those who truly love her unconditionally. Bring back to life Anna Lobaczewska, P
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I can’t help feeling ecstatic every time I hear from ex-haribol millennials. Unlike us from the late 60s and the 70s we were wide-eyed to spiritual fantasy but blind to reality, the Generation Y seems to have the BS meter intact that we either lacked or willfully get rid of. BS was our way of life. BS was like our sustenance, without which we were like fish out of water. We were so ignorant of so
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Radha Harvey states that the “Mantra Meditation” and “Kirtan” prescribed by Chris Butler just “switches off the mind.” This woman scares me to death. The couple scares me to death. I pity the children. This is a sample of the mindset that persists in the Chris Butler cult, a leftover of the hippie culture (the bad part of it). Unfortunately, there are still people especially among yoga
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Near the end of a congressional hearing Tuesday in Washington, D.C., Rep. Tulsi Gabbard raised the specter of a “devastating nuclear war” should the Obama administration not change its strategy regarding the Islamic State and Syria. Cuckoo! If the above does not wake up Hawaiian voters to how unhinged this Tulsi Gabbard is, I don't know what will. Hawaii will be famous for sending
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Thanks for all of your persistence, research, points of view, and links. ~ Granny Vera Rama wrote: The resurfacing of this blog is absolutely monumental. "Monumental" indeed. Thanks, Ian. In the past months or years, I always fancied about when will this small movement (us on this forum) will become "pivotal", to mean to deal the death blow to Science of Identit
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Tulsi 101 Her Royal Hinduness Tulsi Gabbard is fond of spewing emotional rhetoric. Lest the impressionable masses, the military, the media and the entertainment world get sucked further into believing her pointless and delusional politics, here’s a primer to help understand Tulsi. It appears complicated, but it is not. All the people need to know are her upbringing and foundational belief.
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Welcome back, Vera. There’s not much we on this forum could do about political machination and media biases other than bringing out our best arguments about the dangers of religious cults and manipulative gurus, like Chris Butler, to serve as a warning to families, and provide info and support to those that are having doubts and those that had left. As for Tulsi, she is a product of a long
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I believe you Rama, be careful. In a disagreement, a critical thinker would think you could be wrong; to an ideologue, you are evil; but to a religious fanatic, not only that you are evil, you don't deserve to live. You are offensive, you will be shamed and condemned. Absolutism is their dogma, where there is no room for compromise, everything is either black or white. In Haribol, if you&
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I agree, very moving piece by Eigener Herr. There are no more excuses for Haribols to justify their faith. All the guru's claims are debunked. After more than ten years of this site's existence, not one stood up for their guru; those who tried were sent with their tails tucked in between legs. If ever, people still stick in there has got nothing to do with God or faith, let alone love.
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ohgreatfoot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- ... although I am evidentally more educated than this person? I'm beginning to have a very bad taste from this message board. It's always the propensity of cult members, even those who believe they've given up the cult, to duke it out with anybody that there is truth or there are good things about cults
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VoxVeritasVita Das Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps some people in Washington may be getting > hints that Tulsi isn’t really who she claims to > be. > They just disinvited her to a big > “shindig”...er, I mean democratic debate > taking place tomorrow. > > > 0/12/d-n-c-officer-says-she-was-disinvited-from-de > ba
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Tulsi: Wow, with TPP, less expensive imported cars. Penaroza: I’ll be able to afford a Prius. Tulsi: Cheaper parts too. I’ll stick to Honda, we have oil-glut anyway. Hey, yoghourt will be 16 cents less, haha. Penaroza: More cheese for Alana. Cheaper food and clothes for the hapless karmis. Tulsi: And cheaper tofu too (high-five). So what do you think? Ring ring … Penaroza: Hello … Namah Om
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> …I think it is fair, with your life asa an > example, but there are others, to say the cult > left a bunch of under-educated and messed up > “Haribol kids” in its wake, especially those > of you who saw through the cultic nature of Chris > Butler’s megalomania and refused to be > wage-slaves for his Down-to-Earth financial > empire. But, so far as I know, compared
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Yes, Hinduism is the worst religion; No, I will not touch your book. But even if I explain why, I doubt if you will ever get it. Snap out, Pam Ho, then you'll understand that life is beautiful, if you allow humanity to get back into yourself and feel what it is like to relate to your fellow human being -- until then, your vested knowledge is nothing.
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Pam Ho, I do not know you personally, I have no interest in your views and I despise your role as a mouthpiece or an advocate for cults. Is this an attack? Absolutely not. You are everywhere, with the same repertoire: cults are just as the same as any religion. That’s fine and is within your freedom to espouse what you believe in. Hey, it’s a free country. But do not play the “victim” card when p
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Thought for 9/11. We just passed the 14th year remembering 9/11. Despite the tragedy, our laws and social politics are still hostage to the guaranteed rights of religious freedom, which is fundamental – as long as we are guided by the Constitution, everyone is allowed freely to live by conscience and his/her chosen doctrine. But as far as awareness is concerned in regards to those that abuse and
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Friends, we all know what happened fourteen years > ago. > > This will be a day for raw emotions. What the world missed big time in 9-11 is the diabolical power of religion. Despite the tragedy, it's still an issue that the law and politics would rather ignore. Psychologists and sociologists are aw
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I just hope Pam Ho alias Vrajabhumi devi dasi, alias Shiva Haridas, alias Chapati das, alias Jimmy the Uzbekistani, etc. is not discouraged posting here. This forum needs some comic relief. Besides, Guru dev Chris the Butt discourages his brainless minions to engage the public -- for obvious reasons: They are an embarrassment, are incurable morons and constantly give Da Dude a heart attack. Remem
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Pam Ho Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- The caste system is rejected by the > Hare Krishna and by many Hindu traditions, it was > one of the salient points made by the creator of > the Hare Krishna religion, Chaitanya, 500 years > ago It’s an ideological PR. I’ll be the first to laud ISKCON and the Vaishnava religion if they could put it into pr
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Pamho is the protocol greeting among ISKCON members, it stands for: Please Accept My Humble Obeisances Hey Pam, please accept my not-so-humble exposé. Before you, many attempts were made to infiltrate and muddle discussions and the topic here; each time, he/she is sent back with tail tucked between the legs. What happened to your superior knowledge? Chaitanya said that you’ll be undef
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Here's to help dispel the Krishna myth off your life. The mythology has been used as an effective ideological, sociological and psychological tool to subjugate the mind, the heart and politics of individuals and society for more than 3,000 years -- making it the longest living societal cancer in human history. Radhika is a darling sister in the struggle, Breaking Free is from ex ISKCON membe
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Pam Ho Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why do people here automatically think there is a > conspiracy of some sort or another if people just > disagree with you? Pam Ho, You’re welcome to disagree. We always disagree with one another here, this is what public forum is all about. What we don’t disagree about is the precepts of this site, foru
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Pam Ho wrote: Dab, you speak as if it makes sense for Tulsi to get close to ISKCON in order to gain donors and power among Hindus, but you don't know the real story. It still make sense, but that's not the issue regarding Tulsi in this forum -- it is about who she really represents. All the details you talked about don't matter much, and I don't understand what is your pur
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The young Sai. He must have hated this: being forced to shave his head and carry a danda, haha. Interesting stories about the early hare krishnas in Hawaii: As we sat singing Hare Krishna on the beach, the other youths began to timidly join in. A dozen or more youths sat in cross-legged yoga postures, in a wide oblong-circle. Ti leaves, used for luau plates, were placed in front of ea
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To Pam Ho, First of, by definition and practice, cult is bad; let’s get that out of the way. Secondly, the Hare Krishna belief (ISKCON, Science of Identity or Gaudiya Vaishnava) is a cult; and lastly, the Krishna story is a myth; not just a myth, but a proven effective political tool, which aim is to sustain the superiority of Brahmin minority over the Dalit masses. How does that translate out
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