Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes QNet: suspicious MLM flooding google with rebuttal against complaints Just posted on separate thread about QNet, wherein Joseph Bismark is a founding member and managing director. QNet has similar suspiscious strategy of drowning out complaints and critics much like the Science of Identity — flood google with bogus websites depending and disputin
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QNet: Making Your Own Decision The booming trend that is network marketing has left people on both sides of the fence. Is it really black and white? By Nora El Hariri 22 February 2012, 6:51 pm Over the past year, we have heard an increasing number of people talk about QNet, some describing it as ‘the best way to make money’ and others describing it as a ‘total scam’. While the jury coul
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Here, they are talking about Tulsi's campaign contribution from families and friends. Somebody should post her Dad's record of campaign contribution I remember was posted here long time ago that showed names from disicples and supporters of Chris Butler. Most posters to civilbeat.com believe she's a Hindu and that Mike still practices Catholicism. Hmm. if that's the case,
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I read, Tulsi is going opposite her dad's direction. If true, that affirms my inkling that theologies as narrow-minded as the Science of Identity's cannot work on the minds of the later generation. It worked on us because we were so ignorant of so many things. My living proof and hope was Rama Das Ranson, who was born and educated in the cult, yet was able to reject outright the stupidi
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QuoteshimwahThe next day when I came in I was handed my pay and given my marching orders. I was young and this was my first lesson in learning to keep my mouth shut before understanding clearly who I was dealing with. What you witnessed wasn't meant to be seen by outsiders. It was just a glimpse to much more quacks that that are too weird to us but to them are considered holy. Hiring you a
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City Council member Tulsi Gabbard’s campaign for Congress announced that she raised $203,500 last quarter — an increase of more than 60 percent over her previous quarter fundraising totals. Her campaign also boasted that 74 percent of contributions came from Hawaii residents, and that most donations were less than $100 — stats that the campaign says demonstrates grassroots support. Th
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That was an interesting read. Thanks atheist. Here we go again. Another hypocrite daring to come out of the closet. Just read through: he is this, he is that. Ooooh, now a vegan; has been a vegetarian since 1975. This methamphetamine, or whatever he calls it, is a cure all, order now. Didn't he know that George Harrison never really practiced the faith? And is a big supporter of ISKCON,
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Boo! — Jagad Guru. Happy Halloween everybody!
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109,429 views and counting. Yes, they're watching. No one can stop us now.
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Former members who have disavowed the belief should post intelligent arguments, hard facts and helpful information about Chris Butler and the Science of Identity to serve as a warning and guide to potential victims and those who are still in the fold, but in their hearts and minds have deep seated questions and doubts about the group. If internet is their means to propagate lies, fears and traps,
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QuoteVera City Is the younger generation really more intelligent and less suseptible to cult influences? I don't think so. Must be a wishful thinking on my part. Being in the front seat of this problem, religious cults bring to many families, any parents would not like to watch helplessly as their children are led into the woods by this lying bastard who claims so much and proves nothing
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You're right corboy. You mentioned last time, in yoga, participants let down their guards because that is required or is the spirit of the exercise; and in that manner, participants are in the most vulnerable state of mind to manipulation. Kirtan used to be the attractant when I joined the cult in the 70s, because the era was dominated by rock and roll. Funnily, Chris Butler discouraged or e
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Quote "all-girls missionary academy in the Philippines." The name of this school is not given. I'm betting that it is a Jagad Guru Chris Butler cult-run school. The most diabolical move by the Haribols. I wonder what happened to Rama. He actually lived it, in the all-boys school. That's all they could do I guess. Not many recruits nowadays as compared to the 70s. I guess th
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In the end, what these people do is pure self-gratification. They know what they're doing - to feel good and look good for themselves, to satisfy their sentimentalism and romanticism. To feel spiritual security has nothing to do with God or Truth. All religious people feel the same. Chris Butler has given them this feeling of security and the excuse to exploit everything in the name of God.
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Good. I'm very worried about the children, but somehow in the back of my mind, I knew the children today are not as gullible as we were. That simply means that you cannot organize a belief; when you do, it becomes rigid and stale. That proves that gurus know nothing about the Truth; if they do, they wouldn't organize or structure any form of beliefs. I'm also putting my faith on re
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Dharmafarmer, I'm just curious about the new generation of Haribols now, are they as fanatical as their parents, or are they more secular? Thanks.
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I was reading the thread on: Sex Scandal: Rishi Taavi Kassila, Amma Amritanandamayi's Promoter This clearly shows that cults are not just a magnet for those seeking spiritual shelter from the darkness of this world, but also attract perverts, criminals and other predatory characters that are motivated to prey upon the former who are encouraged by the leaders and the cults themselves to b
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Thanks Vera for the materials. Pathetic. Chant for Global Peace? Speak the Truth, why not tell the people about the cult, Science of Identity. Shame on you, Edna Albano, you were lying through your teeth and you know that, thus the ego trip - teaching yoga for eleven years. First of all your movie sucks, how cheesy could you get? You people will try anything under the sun to mislead, no matter h
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I agree RK, guilty as charged. As far as this forum is monitored, only Mr. Ross holds that buzzer. Here is practically a free for all, except for the set of rules posters must abide in order to the least keep things in context. Some people think this forum is like a group or people sharing the same thought and go frenzy on those who disagree. Regular posters at times don't even agree with on
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I recently viewed Googly's posted documentary, Gods of the New Age. My reaction? That simply is incredible. Humans are. When it comes to superstition and metaphysical, people will believe anything. But I must say that film looked like a Christian propaganda, yet their facts on Hinduism invading western thoughts are right on the money. The new age's shift to disguising Hinduism as benign
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiWoNPP_aUA I found the above movie, entitled Fitna, from Holland; a very interesting insight about Islam. But bear in mind when you watch this, this is the same psychology we are all standing up against all religious cults. I wish I'm wrong, but watching how they educate the children to be intolerant and hateful citizens that will not bend, believing they h
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Corboy wrote: QuoteThe public needs to understand that the most dangerous and effective slavery groups are not the Jim Jones and David Koresh cults that are situated in compounds. 9/11 clearly shows the ultimate end result of blind following. The media and the law look at 9/11 as a product of and is associated with extremism, but missed the basic psychology behind it. It is the same psycholo
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What is the difference between Osama Bin Laden's Al Qaeda and Chris Butler's Science of Identity? Just the proportion; in essence they are very much the same. There is no doubt that cult followers will go to the extent of causing harm to others and do it nonchalantly in the name of their gods and their gurus. What was missed in 9/11? The above reality. Al Qaeda just achieved it in th
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DEEP THOUGHTS by Jagged Prabufraud "Anger is born out of lust; and lust is the result of ... '… where the hell is my bhagavadgita? Who took my … @#%*& … you, you! All of you are condemned to hell … @#%*&!'"
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First of all, I want to thank all the posters here. You have no idea how much you are doing humanity a great service. Although the cult, Science of Identity is small, still, standing up to this ultimate form of bullying speaks volume; and this applies to religious cults in general. The public will one day wake up to the fact that although we are living in a very progressive age, this type of reli
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Found this on youtube, about Australian School of Meditation. Chris Butler and Science of Identity's new racket, appearing as benign, mainstream and straight forward yoga clinic. They have a nice looking website too, http://www.asm.org.au/. Such hypocrisy, when, during the 70s he discouraged followers to engage in yoga exercises, demeaned them as inferior and useless in the practice of Bhakt
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To the followers of Chris Butler: Please free yourselves from the clutches of woohoos you were put under. It is a great feeling to let go, I will bet my neck you will feel set free at long last and enjoy a fresh new leash in life, a thousand times sweeter than the dogma you thought was sweet and were enslaved into. The next mistake is to fall for another guru like Narayan Maharaja or others like
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Anger is born out of lust; and lust is the result of contemplation of the senses on material objects. In the final analysis, anger hurts you more than anyone else. One must be able to forgive others especially for offenses against himself. Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa - Science of Identity Foundation Blah blah blah … speak for yourself Chris Butler. You need to attend an anger man
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Thanks Vox for the input. It's all so true. Let me put it this way: It's not just fine to watch all these cult members get mind-fucked (some willingly) by gurus, but there's nothing much society could do about it because of religious freedom. But it really is outrageous to watch and do nothing for these parents to offer their children get mind-fucked as well, just because they enjo
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Mindfuck. I like the terminology. Picture-perfect, yet most of the time, the law turns a blind eye to, simply because religious rights precede the individual's other rights. As we were mindfucked, and other brainless adults who joined the cults willingly, there is a degree of participation there; in the case of children born in religious cults, I strongly believe is different and should be l
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