PATRIARCHAL PENIS WORSHIP - You mean the worship of the "Siva lingham" - the penis of Lord Shiva? :lol: I think the Christians have a difficult time understanding this!!! :oops:
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:arrow: I wonder if old A.C. would have fined sanyassi Chris $10,000 when he took an interest in young Wai Lana??? :?:
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Did somebody just mention something about vampires? Sounds more like "representative of Dracula" than "representative of God" :? Now let me get this straight... Krishna supposedly has/had 16,108 wives... Man is supposedly made in Krishna's image... Yet if Man looks at Woman he is supposed to gouge his eyes out with a dagger... Yes, that makes sense.
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Quotewhitemoon. I have been involved in this group for the past 25 years, through my parents, and now that I am old enough to think for myself, I speak from the heart This is a group for bums and losers Hi Whitemoon: It sounds as though you have quite a chip on your shoulder :( did you lose your childhood, neglected and abandoned by your parents because they were too busy medit
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Latest story on the Cultreporter site: Devotee fined ten thousand dollars for taking an interest in girls.... No wonder Chris Butler is so rich! :?
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Thanks for the ghost stories, Rama das, this is quite interesting. I remember on the Krishna farm on Kauai they told me that it had been haunted by ghosts and that when people started chanting there, the ghosts disappeared - and that's how the devotees got that place without paying rent (because none of the locals wanted to stay there as it was too scary)... So your story of people get
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Yeh - "Mother Superior jumped the gun!" :lol: Well at last we get some up-to-date information on Siddha and his followers. The whole story was posted on the cultreporter.blogspot.com, but the site went dead today (hopefully just a technical problem and not sabotage?)... May 2006: Apparently an e-mail was sent to the followers to store away food, water, medicine, etc. because o
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BIRD FLU PANDEMIC - Yes, that's right down Siddha's alley - Seems like he has caught the "Howard Hughes syndrome" - reclusive and obsessed with germs! :( Maybe they will be required to go inside those bubble devices so they don't catch any germs! That would be quite a sight to see hundreds of bubbles bouncing up and down at the kirtan! NUCLEAR WAR: Yes, Siddha
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Track 4: Happiness is a warm prasadam gun (starring Wai Lana as Mother Superior). :lol: SIDDHA: What's this fly doing in my soup? TERRIFIED DEVOTEE: The backstroke, Srila Prabhupad. :lol:
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"FOR THE WORLD TO BE PEACEFUL, WE HAVE TO BE PEACEFUL WITHIN OURSELVES" :roll: "HANKERING AFTER GOD IS AS GOOD AS SEEING GOD FACE TO FACE." (awwww shucks!) :shock: "IF YOU DONATE MONEY TO ME, GOD WILL BE PLEASED WITH YOU" "THERE'S A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE" :?
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QuotewhitemoonWell, according to Siddha, none of us even scratch the surface of qualification ... but, it is a very good question ... everyone seems to have the answer according to their own scribes of what is right and wrong ... but we all know that according to Siddha, we will never get there ... but You can try ... by: eating vegetarian food chanting a zillion rounds every
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Quotewhitemoon ...chanting rounds on end every day (I see them do this, hell, seems to me they even try to catch a couple of rounds on the crapper) ... :lol: LOL: I seem to remember that A.C. had written somewhere in his vast collection of purports that chanting was not allowed while urinating!... So, on judgment day these rounds chanted on the crapper will probably not be counted! :
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QuotewhitemoonI wonder what it feels like for you to be finally on the receiving side of years of ridicule ... For sure Chris Butler has ridiculed enough people in the past, not only other people from other religions but also his own followers and disciples ... some even to the point of becoming suicidal. Yes, Chris was always expert at this - putting people down in front of others so that
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Quotedevadasi I never heard of sending women off to war in the Vaishnava tradition. There is no such case in the hundreds of books written on the history of the Vaishnava religion. By Vedic law women and children are never to be killed in war and no Vaisnava women would want to cultivate the mentality of a warrior or soldier and go about killing people, even if they deserved it. Certainly the wa
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QuoteWorriedfor those interested the Veggie Chip company run by the australian chris buttler followers is latitude 28.151 long 153.43 on google earth which you can download from google and view there compounds world wide My Windows 98 was unable to get onto Google Earth but I can imagine that their product brand name could be something like this: "Saint Christopher chips"?
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Hi Wanda, If your friend is new to the group it is quite possible she has not heard of Mike Gabbard and his campaign in Honolulu. All I can say is that 30+ years ago I was totally involved in believing in this religion and nobody could have convinced me otherwise. If this is the stage that your friend has reached, then there is probably little you can do to help her. It may seem harm
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And also don't forget: BUDDHISTS?: Even though they spend all day chanting mantras and they are not attached to the things of this world, according to Siddha the highest they can achieve is the "WHITE LIGHT" or (Brahmajoyti)... They can never enter God's kingdom because they see God as an impersonal entity! Good try, though! :x
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OOOOPS - I accidentally posted this blurb in the new topic section, but knowing that you all want to hear what Siddha said, I am also posting it here in this popular thread: WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO GO BACK TO GODHEAD? According to Siddha, absolutely NOBODY! CHRISTIANS?: No chance! Because they believe that Jesus died for their sins and "THEY USE HIM AS A DOORMAT" God is not ver
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WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO GO BACK TO GODHEAD? According to Siddha, absolutely NOBODY! CHRISTIANS?: No chance! Because they believe that Jesus died for their sins and "THEY USE HIM AS A DOORMAT" God is not very happy with them and said "TO HELL WITH THEM ALL". HINDUS?: Nope. "I'M FROM INDIA - I KNOW KRISHNA" .... Sorry! JEWS: Apparently they crucifie
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QuoteRama Das (slave name) Chris Butler, if you are reading, please just take it back to the old school... Get those booklets back out there, get back on the road spreading the message... maybee a new album or two? :D GOOD THINKING! The new album could be called: SIDDHA: A GENTLE FARCE Track 1: I'm the King of the Castle - you're the dirty rascals. Track 2: Sur
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QuotewhitemoonThey like to say these countries are more receptive because they are less materially contaminated, what they really mean is that these are more readily available suckers ... less sophisticated, less jaded, more available to being sucked in by new age gurus, thats the real truth of the matter. More children for the taking, except they live in adult bodies ... It's also inter
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QuotewandaAnyone out there got any tips on how i can get through to a Science of identity member to even read this forum and take it on board with an open mind. This may be a difficult task! If they are a very faithful follower of Chris Butler (Jagad Guru), they will not want to hear any criticism whatsoever of their guru as they believe he is the one and only representative of God on this p
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Thanks Devadasi for the link to the Mike Gabbard website. Did you all notice that Tulsi Dasi is the only woman among the group of 30 soldiers or so in those pictures? (Is this some Vaisnava tradition of sending young women off to war that I don't know about?).... Yep, Siddha's followers are a real TUFF bunch - none of this wishy washy Buddhist world peace impersonalist rubbish.
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QuoteprivateyeThese are some interesting letters from the President of the Science of Identity Foundation. Saturday, January 31, 2004 "Case's slick brochure was a waste of money" I went out to my mailbox recently and found a slick brochure from Congressman Ed Case. I wonder why I and my other taxpaying brethren need to pay for this junk mail. It must have cost at least
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Quotedevadasi When making money and politics become the priority, something has gone afoul. THIS REALLY DOES SEEM TO BE THE CASE. From what I gleaned over the internet, many individuals donated money (LOTS of money*) to Mike G's political campaign last year. And considering that Mike did not win the election, one can only assume that all that money, work, time, and energy
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Quotewhitemoon How will chanting raise me out of this earthly hell? I truly do not think that God, counts his subjects by the number of rounds that they do everyday? Chant your way to Paradise, I dont think so .... Chanting 16 rounds for the average working Joe can become quite a chore... Try working a physical job for 8 hours a day, a couple of hours traveling time, an hour for lunch.
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QuoteWorried ...The kids do live with me for that i am thankful so at least they are not exposed to it 24/7 so i can keep them level headed but it is still a worry to have them exposed to it at all.....In small doses do you think this would be harmful??? In small doses, things will probably work out okay ... it sounds like you have full custody ... don't worry!!! :D
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Hi Worried, If the non-devotee spouse does not have custody of the child / children, then there could be a tendency of the devotee spouse to demonize the other parent and teach this attitude to the children... And all this just because maybe someone does not agree with their right-wing neo-conservative politics!!! :!:
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QuoteRama Das (slave name) ..... I imagine just saying what I have could result in definately not being welcome, but I guess that speaks volumes about the mindset that you have to live with to con-siddha (australian for consider) yourself as being serious enough about it all. I know how it would go down, someone who is assigned to watch this board will take note and pass the word along that
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Quotebogus_hunterSo, given your exposure to this spirituality that Chris Butler interpreted and proffered; now that you all are out from under that influence, what is your current spiritual inspiration? Some I understand have gone back to their original faith (such as Judaism). Are many of you still devotees of Krishna? Have you a different view, more like a mosaic of various belief sys
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