Quotecultreporter I heard a CD lecture where Siddha was chastising his devotees for not being discerning in giving money for devotional service, telling them that they need to listen to God in their heart and check with him if some request for money does not seem to be legitimate. :arrow: Yep, I am listening to the Lord in my heart, and He is telling me not to give any money to Siddha :wink
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Quotequotesman Finally one lower caste devotee told me sudama got canned for something that had to do with VD but he did not know more than that. He made some offense to JG's yoko ono. That is all he knew about it. Actually that was one of the reasons I left. All the big gurus were falling down and Chris was just acting more and more paranoid and UN-SPIRITUAL. While the Chinese woman was b
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Quotecultreporter ...... The precise scheme was not detailed in the lecture. He named a specific devotee and mentioned that he had been in a car accident and had gotten a large compensation payout of which he had given a lot of this to this bogus project.... I seem to remember a project where one disciple had invested money into a movie about submarines (in WW2???) but this was way back i
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QuotejulesI was told to go and visit the pilots, who was taking JG from Hawaii to some island in the Pacific and ask them how many drinks had they consumed in the past 8 hours. I was dreading it, these guys had endured already so many bizarre requests. From outfitting the plane in tinfoil, oxygen tanks, trying to get the odour out of the toilets. He said none, but he looked me in the eye and
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Quotecultreporter Quote“What? Just because you come here and clean my floor and wash my dishes, eat my toenails and drink my footwater you think you have the right to talk to me, write me a letter a-hole.” :!: :?: :!: Seriously guys, just googling I am sure it was mentioned drinking foot water a while back and I thought it was just his wicked sense of humor. Is this what maha water like the
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QuoteWorried ....i think this religon is SNEAKY LIEING DECIETFUL MINDCONTROLING CAPITALISTIC MANIPULATIVE FRAUDULENT Govenments should take action agaisnt them Blaaaaaaaaaa Or you mean: "I think CHRIS BUTLER is: SNEAKY LYING DECEITFUL MIND CONTROLLING CAPITALISTIC MANIPULATIVE FRAUDULENT and oh yeh, don't forget: DOWNRIGHT OBNOXIOUS :!: :!: :!:
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Quotequotesman Siddha to his female disciple on the phone, “You fu#king cunt, you fu#king whore!!!” Maybe that was VD on the other end of the phone! :lol: :lol: :D
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QuoteRama Das (slave name)Dude, man, bro, seriously... Those quotes are amazing. Now I know why you guys hang around, it must be non stop comedy. Come on, somebody talk to Siddha and see if he would be interested in doing a reality t.v. show like "the Osbournes" or something. It would be so amazing, can you imagine? Him just leading the camera man back and forth through his cr
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Quotejonfeldmane Hey even Larry Mehau would probably donate to a lawsuit against the godfather of organized nut cases in Hawaii, Chris Butler. :lol: :lol: LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Quotejonfeldmane .... Anyway the tip off was on one big initiation in Honolulu. I remember it pretty clear. I think about 12 people were getting the initiation. I was friends with most of them and particularly a couple that got completely humiliated. They are all there sitting at his feet like good little ducks waiting for the great guru to give them the highest enlightenment and a really spir
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Quotecultreporter .... I have heard a lecture where Siddha says that those who REALLY love their spiritual master and REALLY have devotion may choose to leave the planet with him without being offensive - a more recent one. Maybe hitch a ride on the comet "Hale-Bopp?" :lol: :lol: :roll:
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QuotesuziWhy have people not exposed Chris Butler' s cult to the media? It would seem that could be of help in deterring some and support for others. :idea: A big newspaper in Honolulu (Honolulu Star Bulletin???) once did a story on Siddha and his followers way back about 1975/76 (???). They wrote up some story about the devotees dancing and sweating a lot at the kirtan! There was
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Quotezelig Hey Googling! Come back! We need some humor here! I'ts getting too heavy! And there be trolls lurking about! :twisted: :evil: 8) Yes, I am still here - just been a bit busy in the last few days! :arrow: :arrow: Not chanting enough or being serious enough is a burden that all devotees carry - a spiritual self flagellation. YES THIS STATEMENT IS VERY TRUE - "
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Quotezelig ... This is such a typical example of how it is to relate to someone in a cult. They are compelled to filter everything, even an innocent conversation about mangoes, through the "blind defense mechanisms". It is impossible to just have a normal verbal exchange. They have to justify and fold every word and action into the "party line" and make their time with you
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HOLY COW! There sure is a lot of interesting stuff on this thread now. It will take me some time to digest all this... QuotejulesLooking back, Man I did some wierd stuff all in the name of God and serving the pure devotee. Geez I was stupid! Wish I could turn back the clock sometimes I feel like I wasted all those years. Making up for lost time now and are content with life. Still get those
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QuoteTheTruthAsItIs This one reminds me of a typical SOI member: Back in the 60s and 70s .... I was at Woodstock man ... tripping me out man ... thinking of getting a job man .... :lol: :lol: :lol: On a lighter note, yes I think I know someone like this - and they are probably STILL living in their van, as they have donated all their money to their spiritual master! :cry: th
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Quotezeuszorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNz8I-ZDMo I watched this youtube video and there were a few short clips of a guy dressed up as an angel being interviewed... What is this all about? This is more corny than the cornfields of Iowa. :lol:
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Quotezelig If Siddha had died, Vsnotty would either play on his legacy like Yoko Ono, bad voice and all or become a guruette in her own right. I'm sure Siddha's followers would accomodate her and elevate her as she will be holding the purse strings. Or she could marry the devotee BT ( who married Katyayani and became her promoter in the divine Mother type/ girl-guru curcuit). Hey Ze
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QuoteRama Das (slave name)It reminds me of a joke by the comedian Bill Hicks, he is talking about "pro-lifers" R.I.P. Bill. He was one of the most amazing people to walk the planet. "Wherever there is truth, love and laughter, I will be there." Hey Rama, I have never heard of Bill Hicks - was he a stand-up type comedian, or what? On an unrelated topic, I someti
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QuoteRama Das (slave name)Hey, zelig or Googling, I am trying to figure out how to quote someones post, but only show a selected portion in that quotation... It seems as though you both know how... Hi Rama, click on the "quote" button at the top right of the post. Just delete the text that you do not need within the quote. Make sure you leave the square parenthesis / bracket
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Quotestarterjust-googling, i think the waco documentary was called rules of engagement. is that what you are thinking of??? No, the movie I saw was not a documentary - it was a regular movie. It depicted some of the life of David Koresh and the life at the compound leading up to their deaths. The documentary probably has more information on the cult, I expect, though.
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Thanks for the info - I would like to see this when it comes out on DVD, if it is available. I also saw a movie re-enacting the Branch Davidians at Waco, Texas, and this was quite a well done movie. I would like to see this again, but I cannot remember the title.
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I read on the science of identity blogspot your article about nervous breakdowns with great interest. I know that Siddha has warned people that taking medications for mental problems is strictly forbidden by the regulative principles. He does not seem to realize there are people who can go mentally insane through inherited imbalances within their brain. (Siddha does not accept this "i
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:arrow: oooops - that should read: "Poor old God" NOT "Pool old God"
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Here's another interesting little story about Chris Butler: Let me explain: the Bhagavad-Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam books all had addresses of ISKCON temples at the back of the book. Siddha's instructions were that these addresses were to be removed, as he considered ISKCON to be his most evil enemy at that time (this was before he got onto the homosexual rant). He said that any
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QuotePhillyExileYou know the bottom line is that by definition ole Gurudeva had to be all things to all people and a polymath to boot. He was no scientist (that is obvious) and he probably knew less about Astronomy than did Nostradamous. So he did what all gurus did and do in his situation, he made sh--t up. His fanciful Vedic cosmology certainly flew in the face of all science, logi
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QuotezeuszorThat kind of thing is so bizarre (Canto 5 and all that) that I washed my hands of Vaisnavism once I read it, pretty much. Yes, I think this happened to quite a few people. I once attended a lecture where the lecturer was reading from this Canto and speaking about the different kinds of hell. Needless to say, the newcomers at the lecture were vehemently poo-pooing the whole idea a
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Quotezelig EVERY SPERM IS SACRED indeed! Is that the song sung with the unending line of Catholic children walking out of the house? Yep, that's the one! It's a large musical production filmed in the alleys of poverty stricken Yorkshire... making fun of the Catholics and their large families. It really is quite funny :D :D
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Quotezelig The main issue with Siddha is that he feels that he takes on the karma of his followers and that is why his immune system is so fragile. He sees himself as constantly transmutating his followers sins so they don't transmigrate - and this is why he says he gets sick. Which is pretty f*quing rediculous and funny. :idea: Similar to the theory that God sent his only begotten
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Yes, I was around when they had the giardia scare and I had to swallow that awful string and leave it hanging out of my mouth... but I seem to remember it was longer than for just one hour - seems like most of the day you had to be gagging on that string. And eeeewwww was it ever gross when you had to pull it out! It's quite interesting how Siddha parallels Howard Hughes on this germ ph
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