Welcome to the CEI message board. We 'bump' older topics upwards to the front page all the time so that visitors can know what's available. The Byron Katie discussion was one of the most heavily disrupted, trolled conversations that took place on the message board. Heavy trolling is a sure sign that many consider a discussion valuable, and that many others want that same
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This is a long read. The mind you save may be your own. This is an analysis by The Antcult of a script of another guru's "teaching story". Go through it and see if any of it matches what you've seen Moo say or do. Re: Byron Katie (the Work) - hypnotic language patterns, metaphors Posted by: The Anticult Date: March 11, 2008 06:48AM -----------------------
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An example of a complete non-realistic teachings (bull-shit) of the great but false pseudo guru Johnny Baldwin Midgett aka Balakhilya das, who in his lectures in Poland or in Ukraine, insistently argued that nowadays we have all the facilities to "please our senses". Midgett's pseudo guru, who lives in a hacienda in Hawaii and when there is no electricity and water, it is a tragedy
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This stuff has been discussed here in depth by a denizen of the message board named The Anticult. We learned a lot from TAC while discussing by a commercial transformation teacher named Byron Katie. Introduction - double meanings in sublminal trance persuasion. The Anticult showed us how these messages can be used to dull our response to genuine danger, compromise our boundaries and - inst
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A BBC News article -- Charisma can be learned by mastering a specific set of skills. The Art and Science of Charisma QuoteCharm involves making eye contact with individuals and flashing them a smile, getting people to talk about themselves, asking personal questions and making empathic statements, whereas charismatic leaders don’t necessarily have to interact directly with the people
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My Ex boyfriend is a member of Sai Maa and he is young not like the older members that are clearly insane once you meet them. We were together for four year and were very seriously in Love but then Sai Maa destroyed everything we built, our home our future everything lost. He spent thousands of dollars on Sai Maa’s retreats. The foundation and communication was lost forever. I’m here to tell ever
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Hello Peter72 Yes Finally someone talks the truth about Sai Maa. . . I’m one of them in addition to 15 other people I know that will be talking more about this horrible woman and her Cult Organization run by her disciples. Peter72 you are correct the Sai Maa Organization is a sinister is a Cult! My Ex boyfriend is a member of Sai Maa and he is young not like the older members that are clearly
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I really don't understand the hostility. You say you don't mind mistakes being corrected, but it seems that isn't true. And I get bashed for it, what gives you the impression I don't know what Butler teaches? I don't get it. Well, I do know what Butler teaches, I can recite it to you if you want. I have been around his group and his teachings since 1979 when I moved to
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For persons new to this message thread, here is a list of important posts Wedding rings. This will not happen at a one day event. But if you are beguiled to go to longer events, this is discussed on earlier posts made to this thread. Analysis of 'A Thousand Names for Joy' (Scroll down list and read) Mind Cleanse Turnaround House Confidentiality Agreements
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Here is page 118 of the pages that were lost from this thread since the domain name was changed. Some links might be out of date but links to this forum have been updated. ............................................................................................................................................................................................... December 08, 2011 01:50AM
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Drinking foot bath water and eating toenail clippings. Well, here I am again to shed some light on the Truth. Some people have taken offence when foot bath water and toenail clippings are mentioned in association with Science of Identity founder, Chris Butler. It would be a huge embarrassment to admit to falling for such utter nonsense and a truly disgusting ritual, so it’s no surprise that th
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Dear forum Why I am participating in this forum and making anti BUTLER videos ....???. ITS TO INFORM ....potential new disciples of Butler of the sinister sides of the guy and maybee seed some doupts in the hearts of present followers of Mr Univers . Brain washing is taken place .....but if someone wants to beleive Butler is the intimate chum of blue GOD Krishna what can be done ? Bef
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Quotegohonzonchanter So whatever you are chanting for, or whatever you believe when you chant either negative or positive will materialize in your life. The above post is a false claim. Its wrong, and proven wrong. At best, its the Confirmation Bias. And SGI by Ikeda deliberately uses that bias to deceive the multitude, and destroy their ability for critical thinking. As stated, there i
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One of the comments on this blog entry says part of the Desteni cult's "psilosophy" was taken from Gurdjieff. There are other threads here on Rick Ross about Gurdjieff. Gurdjieff's "Fourth Way" is very psychologically damaging: About Gurdjieff: Lords of the left-hand path: A history of spiritual dissent - Stephen E Flowers: QuoteEditorial Review This
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I was following a forum discussion elsewhere of ex-members of a Gurdjieff group. One member has done some great research on Gurdjieff. Here it is: Lords of the left-hand path: A history of spiritual dissent - Stephen E Flowers: QuoteEditorial Review This is an extensive study of Left-Hand Path individuals and groups from ancient times to modern movements such as the Church of Satan a
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If anyone is curious about getting a 'feel' for Ken Keyes Jr.s material, here are some selections. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There was discussion some time back about various authors who might have been influential for BK. One named was Ken Keyes Jr. Those interested can get a few samples of Keyes material here.
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Go do a search, select "all dates" and put in key words like nested loops Ericksonian also, do "all dates" and put in The Anticult and also Walter1963 in the author slot. The Anticult tells us the exact methods (put in washing machine and all dates and you get Anticult's analysis of a story about a washing machine as used by a skilled operator) Walter1963 g
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Be very careful when you attend something for a serious, emotionally loaded topic such as autism and they dont start with data but start with a STORY, a grab-em-by-the-tits, grab-em-by-the-balls STORY. And it should be noted that Wakefield has been discredited. Problem is, as one scientist has put it, its so much easier to scare people than to unscare people. QuoteShe’s a compelling
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QuoteSandmanIn this post by Bernard Poolman's daughter, Cerise: http://cerisepoolman.blogspot.com/2011/05/pyramid-scheme-multi-level-marketing.html she says the reason why the Desteni I Process is NOT a pyramid selling scheme is that it is selling a product! Surely she is just saying that as a lame attempt at persuading other Desteni members that everything is okay, they're not
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In this post by Bernard Poolman's daughter, Cerise: http://cerisepoolman.blogspot.com/2011/05/pyramid-scheme-multi-level-marketing.html she says the reason why the Desteni I Process is NOT a pyramid selling scheme is that it is selling a product! Surely she is just saying that as a lame attempt at persuading other Desteni members that everything is okay, they're not doing anyth
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On The Uses of Disgust BK doenst just use cockroaches for her story. Apparently she uses other stuff too. "At September 28, 2010 , (name omitted), M.D. said... What an awesome story. (Not the part about Decibel being scared or doused with Coca Cola, I mean. The part about discovering our wrong assumptions.) I agree with Rose, it IS very human of us to mentally wander into Defending
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Anticult discussed nested look method here. It is my citizens opinion that-- The best thing to do is learn about nested loop story telling trance induction only to protect your agency from undue influence. Know this technique is out there, being used against us, but dont use it yourself. First, it is dehumanizing to treat any person as an object and you will slowly, without realizing it
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JESUS CHRISTIAN NEWSLETTER, #126, AUGUST, 2010 What a month it has been! Touristy sidelights along with some serious distributing and frantic filmwork, a "Christmas in July" musical production, and all the last-minute plans for the arrival of relatives for the "cruise of a lifetime" for our community. Along the way there were a number of crises and close calls as well.
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there seems to be a few people on here who are kind and caring and seem to want to help, and then there are others... 'helpme2times'....you seem to be in the 'others' category. I don't enjoy your attacks. i don't enjoy your quoting me, i don't enjoy my 'name' in 'quotes' and then have an attack or a dig follow. if this is what this foru
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QuotelaurenI have just read through the links re:cults etc. that you mentioned above. Byron Katie is the opposite of these terms mentioned. These terms do not apply to her at all. She is merely helping people to end their suffering. She doesn't do it for them. She shares her experience. She shares what worked for her. Take it or leave it. She doesn't care whether you take it or l
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More psychic predictions realized! There it is, 10 million in 2008, and that is a minimal lowball. And JRI pays James Ray expenses, as predicted. But to who does JRI owe "$5.3 million in liabilities"? It could be to other companies that may be controlled by James Ray indirectly, for example. Where is the money going? asks the auditor. Hopefully they will open up the wash
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Another perverse result of this, is that James Ray will easily be able to spin this to make his followers in this area believe he is still a "wealth expert". Because as stated, the first lesson these guys teach in "wealth" is the alleged ability to 'legally" protect your assets by using various complex financial instruments and asset protection trusts, and who knows
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Hi corboy, In direct reply to your post I'd say that it's reaching a situation where fixed groups are becoming redundant. Wayne Dyer for example doesn't have any sort of membership organisation (as far as I know) but his ideas are very influential because a powerful marketing machine has replaced the need for a formal structure. The same process and techniques that sell washing
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even more interesting, is if one takes an even closer look at the text and the metaphors in the article by Stever Robbins, on that site that appears to be run by Steven Sashen. The basic Story of the article by Stever Robbins, is that if you take your best suit to the CLEANERS, and it gets wrecked by their negligence, then you are supposed to feel HAPPY-JOY-JOY about this, as opposed to se
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Meadow is right on the money. There is so much information there, it will take a lot of time to go over all of it. Notice the embedded commands right in their advertising blurbs, and how the Byron Katie Story is told in the images. Byron Katie did do some stuff for cheaper or even "free" for a while, that is to build things up. Every group like this offers some stuff for "free
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