Below is another version of Ali Binazir's "hypnosis story", about getting "knocked out" simply by listening to someone else get hypnotized. That in itself, is a common technique to induce rapid trance induction. They tell you a "story" about someone who rapidly got "knocked out" simply by listening to a story about another person getting put into hyp
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

The Huffington Post is owned/run by Arianna Huffington, and she is a follower of John-Roger, Guru of MSIA, Movement_of_Spiritual_Inner_Awareness. MSIA is basically the same as these other large new age religions, sects, cults... HuffPo's Dangerous Quacks, Hacks and Cultists - Huffington Post So guys like Michael Beckwith get a totally free hand at Huff Post, so does "Dr. Alex
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Yes, that was modeling the NLP manipulative persuasion patterns copied from the written text of Alex Benzer. Of course we all agree that evidence is required. Michael Beckwith gives zero evidence for any of his extreme claims, like healing disease with his techniques. Its up to Beckwith and Benzer to provide the evidence, as they are the ones who are making the claims and the money. Those wh
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Double-yikes. Check out the website for The Tao of Persuasion by Alex Benzer. This freaking webpage is LACED and MEGA-LOADED with the same hypno-persuasion stuff, top to bottom. He starts out with an identical tech used by James Ray...and opens with a LOADED QUESTION. The website even fakes a date that makes it seem the page was just written yesterday, as it then changes if the page is r
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In this thread, so far, no one is talking about "cults" per se, they are talking about the scam of New Thought, and the scam of The Secret, and these New Religious Movements which is what Michael Beckwith is selling. Beckwith is promoting a very extreme form of New Thought that is very dangerous and damaging. Michael Beckwith appeared on Oprah and The Secret with James Arthur Ray.
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There you have it, Ikeda inserting himself inside PRAYERS to be repeated everyday. That is mental conditioning, that is a type of SGI brainwashing, to insert your DEBT to Ikeda to his "selfless" accumulation of billions of dollars for himself, and his buying of a few hundred fake-degrees for himself. How selfless! And like I predicted earlier in the thread, there is the ringing of t
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That is a good point about the Gaslighting. That is what these LGAT salesmen are doing to people, modifying how they perceive reality, and installing delusions, and taking people into deep trance, as well as all the other techniques. There are some people out there who do claim to teach these advance persuasion techniques, like KENRICK E. CLEVELAND, but one has to be extremely skeptical and c
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James Ray also charges people who died at a previous seminar, for the next seminar they can't attend as they are deceased. The highway robbery of everyday folks committed by these guys are beyond sickening. QuotebuffmanJust found this: James Arthur Ray Emails Guy He Killed ... Analyze the text of the email below, and see how it compares with the deep trance inductions describe
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You would have to wish that people would be about a million times more careful around these types of guys, and those like them. You can't go into a seminar room or wilderness reatreat with these advanced hypnotic persuaders, its too dangerous, they are too skilled. For example, Stever Robbins knows all of them same techniques, as well as many other people. Notice all those guys have been
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Boring the shit out of people and confusing the hell out of them, is all part of advanced hypnosis. Its like when you are driving on a flat highway for a long time, you can naturally go into a deep trance state. QuotebuffmanI'm not sure of the details of what Ray did, but asking someone to stare at their hand is a common hypnosis induction. Try holding your gaze steady at any object for
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Again, I was being somewhat glib about the boredom involved. But that is a part of it, endless repetition, is a part of it. In reality, to properly analyze the hand-staring technique from James Ray, you would need a lot more detail of exactly what was said, and exactly what was done. That way you can look at the specific suggestions, and embedded suggestions. But as described in the artic
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There are all kinds of links out there about Fractionation and hypnosis. Just search Google for: fractionation hypnosis Just beware, there are extensive lies and misinformation out there, with people trying to sell everything under the sun, and making false claims. Its a real pit of snakes and vipers. But one can see, even the "seduction" people try to use that method. (in rea
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Just to clarify about the Magick comment, its just some other websites seem to paint James Ray as some type of dark-magician who has some type of mystical power over people. They ascribe some type of mystical significance to what he does. In fact, James Ray is really a 3rd-rate covert persuader, who went berserk due to his insane greed, which seems to stem from his outrageous meglomania. Jam
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The above post about James Ray is interesting and needs to be looked into. For example, the drink is probably Kava Kava, which James Ray copied from Tony Robbins. Same with the firewalking, James Ray copied it from Tony Robbins. The snake stuff is also copied from Tony Robbins and NLP, as they used to use rubber snakes and stuff to try and get people over snake phobias. James Ray just took
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As shown in this thread months ago, the aftermath of the death of Colleen Conaway was an organized cover-up involving a number of people. A number of people told them about the death, and they just engineered a "story" to try and cover their own asses, and keep themselves out of it. Even a non-professional can see that quite easily. So one has to wonder what is going on with the pro
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The local stage hypnotist is not connected with the deeper forms of advanced hypnosis. Much of stage "hypnotism" is simply direct suggestion, they find people who want to act up for laughs for their friends. Its a comedy show. But at the end of an intense LGAT seminar, when the hypnotist like James Ray starts mumbling, and raving, that is something else altogether. Its a technique.
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You better believe that mumbling is a hypnotic technique, its one of the main ones in current advanced hypnosis and Trance work. Its a perversion of advanced Ericksonian hypnosis. What James Ray is doing, is at the end of a very long day, he pushes people into exhaustion, where their defenses are the lowest. He then slowly paces and leads them into "unconscious" work, where he del
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Cross-reference the information in these threads about Byron Katie, with chapters from the book Cults In Our Midst by Dr. Margaret Singer. The Work/Byron Katie-strong concerns Byron Katie and "The Work" Participant Reports Everyone should own a copy of Cults In Our Midst, which anyone can get now for a few bucks. Its all there. Chapter 6 Physiological Persuasion Techniques
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The information in these threads actually gives even more detailed information than is included in those chapters in Cults In Our Midst. Byron Katie Byron Katie and "The Work" Participant Reports But everyone should own a copy of Cults In Our Midst, which anyone can get now for a few bucks. Its all there. Chapter 6 Physiological Persuasion Techniques (meditation, diet, hyp
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Here a little more about how the advanced NLP persuasion people think. James Arthur Ray has studied their methods very carefully. Richard Bandler's partner is John La Valle, who is also co-author of the book Persuasion Engineering. The advertising material out there by John La Valle is really disgusting, frankly. He uses a lot of deliberate Confusion and embedded suggestions about "
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So then Paul Scheele and Learning Strategies Corporation are SPAMMERS. If they refuse to remove people from their marketing lists, and keep reselling/moving them to other lists, then they are official spammers. (in some areas that can be reported, if they refuse to remove you from their lists). The way Paul Scheele sends out spam to thousands of people, to make tens of thousands in SALES SALES
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Naked Men: The ManKind Project and Michael Scinto The organization was supposed to make him a better man. Instead, his parents say, it made him a dead one. By Chris Vogel published: October 04, 2007 "The ManKind Project offers trainings which support men in developing lives of integrity, accountability and connection to feeling." — From The ManKind Project Web site &
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This is a special message for a few of the NLPers and weasels who are running around trying to deflect this advanced persuasion stuff away from NLP, and how James Arthur Ray uses parts of it. Those folks are lying right through their capped bleached teeth. Its all there in black and white. James Ray has directly mimicked and copied a number of people, almost like a robot, people like Tony
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And of course, the main people who are doing some form of conversational hypnosis storytelling, aren't telling anyone they are doing it. Of course, if one asks them at a seminar on the mic, or in the media about their methods of group trance induction, hypnosis, and suggestion, they will immediately counteract with a denial. Like...HYPNOSIS!!! I am de-hypnotizing people from the cultural
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Another example is that not one person in the media, has picked up the most blatant phrase right on the front of James Ray's website. "When would NOW be the time to once and for all enjoy total abundance.." That is basic, pure NLP based hypnotic suggestion language patterning, done rather poorly. Its right in your face. But even then, people don't see it. He inserte
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Stever Robbins gets technical...about using Ericksonian language patterns in German, which has different grammatical structures. ___________________________________ QUOTE EXCERPT: "Much of early NLP was based on the work of Virginia Satir, a family therapist; Fritz Perls, founder of Gestalt therapy; Gregory Bateson, anthropologist; and Milton Erickson, hypnotist. It was Erickson'
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And messing around with "grammar" is pretty much lesson #1 in advanced conversational hypnotherapy. Its a huge subject. But the first thing you learn is to shift tenses (past-present), and nouns, verbs, and to scramble it up. Some of it is to confuse the conscious mind, and trigger a transderivational search. They also use Transformational Grammar, Artfully Vague language patterns,
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QuoteMeadow A birdie once told me that BK and Christin Lore Weber had a fight over copyright and are no longer on speaking terms. Yes, something like that would have had to happen. Christin wrote the book, but "Byron" published it with The Work Foundation Inc. And since Byron Katie appears to have also edited every word of the book, then who controls the rights? (guess who?) They th
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"Pickup Artists" and "The Seduction Community" QuoteStoic I then watched this clip which I think is Jeffries with a better personal image, demonstrating his technique to Louis Theroux. This doesn't look at all staged to me and the induction is quite slick. I assume there is a post-hypnotic suggestion planted for the girl seems to follow the two men the way a lost duckli
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QuoteStoic I then watched this clip which I think is Jeffries with a better personal image, demonstrating his technique to Louis Theroux. This doesn't look at all staged to me and the induction is quite slick. I assume there is a post-hypnotic suggestion planted for the girl seems to follow the two men the way a lost duckling will follow any moving object. pick-up in action A couple more
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