The audio recordings from this person are very revealing. www.ancientknowledge.org This man is not 70 years old. He is clearly in his middle adult years. He is also obviously using a piece of audio software to alter his voice, to slow down the speed, and lower the pitch a little. (he probably finds it very amusing, as it sounds a little like John Wayne). He is clearly doing this to d
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

www.merkaba.org www.The144000.org www.thetruejesus.org www.christslight.org www.the10thjesus.org These are apparently some of his other websites. The ownership of those websites is hidden by the same company. This is simply a brazen and ugly scam. "Gary" whoever he is, is openly targeting people who have some issues. Right on his website, he is targeting people who feel t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

hey, a new thread about this is started here. Please cross-post your posts there if you want. As the TITLE of a thread makes it more descriptive to searches and search engines, so its best to get the title of the thread set at the start. It also best to put all research about a new sect into one thread, to keep the information together. So please use the other thread, as once it hits t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Who is this maniac "Gary Smith" of the The 144,000 Organization? www.the144000.org/ann/032610.htm Lets get this guys REAL name and names and previous aliases, and post it all in this thread. All the details, so the internet search engines can find it. This maniac is absolutely using forms of modern "conversational hypnosis". He is speaking in that strange cadence inte
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

If a leader is broadcasting these kind of weird Stories, while people "meditate" and visualize, then of course it is a form of hypnosis. Hypnosis is just focused internal attention. Its not the hypnosis that is the problem, but the verbal and visual messages in the hypnosis sessions, and the Suggestions that are being implanted with repetition. Will look into this more. But read
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

This is a new thread about this sect, moved from this thread for the reason of using the name of the sect and leader in the title, as its more descriptive, and gets a better search engine ranking.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Very quickly runs WHOIS searches on all of his websites like the144000.org before he can change them. He must have some other websites too, and information on them. WHOIS searches can show who owns or runs a website. Unfortunately, right now this scammer has hidden his website ownership under a 3rd party company. Its registered as: Registrant Name:Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 012
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Who is this maniac "Gary Smith" of the The 144,000 Organization? www.the144000.org/ann/032610.htm Lets get this guys REAL name and names and previous aliases, and post it all in this thread. All the details, so the internet search engines can find it. This maniac is absolutely using forms of modern "conversational hypnosis". He is speaking in that strange cadence inte
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Sadly what is happening here, happens every week. Vulnerable people get whipped into a manic-trance state, and spend tens of thousands on Tony Robbins seminars. Some get cleaned out of hundreds of thousands of dollars for other schemes they have running. If a person has a past with mania, they can easily be flipped into mania. And everyone knows where that ends, with a total breakdown. D
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Guy Finley has set up even more websites, they are all over the place. And the "free" stuff. Its not free. Advertising is not free, it has a purpose. Guy Finley is weaving a web on the web. A spiders web with shiny promises to lure you in is not free. All this content put out by Guy Finley has a purpose, to bring people into Guy Finley's spell. Then later, those who get lure
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Very true, about how people's beliefs about Ching Hai might change. In cognitive science, belief change is achieved by many new pieces of evidence/experience, accumulated over time. Then repeated. The same way normal life experience shapes our beliefs. But Ching Hai knows this better than anyone. That is why she has locked peoples beliefs down, using powerful emotions, and powerful im
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Below are some real reviews of this book, from people who happen to be bird lovers who bought the book. The thing the average person doesn't understand, is that Ching Hai is not "crazy". Doing weird things like putting birds in fur coats, and having them talk gibberish, is believe it or, a technique that can be used. Its actually a very sophisticated subject, and clearly Ms Chi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

It appears that the poster was attempting to do some self-marketing, and target his alleged NLP coaching services to former members of "cults". And then entice them to enroll in his own seminars and workshops. Where they will take another financial shellacking, or much worse. Wrong place. In fact, there are many posters here who are trained experts in the NLP techniques of persuasi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Its not known if this is actually the person stated, or someone else. But for the person stated, they are another self-proclaimed "NLP expert" in persuasion. Its another in a long line of Tony Robbins clones. The front page of their website is literally a paste/copy of the Tony Robbins material, using Questions with presuppositions to pace and lead those who are reading it. So in
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

When trained NLP guys like this start jabbering about "Huna" (or whatever) is terrible that 99% of the new agers just take it at face value. What is it really? Its the Rabbit Hole, and he wants to take you down into his rabbit hole. He's already Pre-Framed it, saying it takes 15 years to learn. So that means he wants to influence you, and have you buy his stuff for 15+ years.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Long ago, someone counted all the Eckhart Tolle products, and there were dozens of them. Now there are more than that, there look to be hundreds. And ET also is selling "retreats" which are meant to lure people to locations for that, where the upselling continues. ET is selling almost as many things as Walmart, and more than McDonalds! McDonalds only sells a few dozen things, Eckha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

There are other threads going into great detail about the SCAMOLAS being run by Eckhart Tolle. The guys a salesman. and its false about the ET events. He has events, but not as many live events as BK, because obviously ET doesn't like "people" in the personal sense. He wants to set up a detached system, where you buy his DVD's and watch ET-TV as a group, so those are o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Inducing BOREDOM is a technique in hypnosis, like inducing confusion. Many of them have talked how in conventional church through repetition of material, people go into a Trance. Same with many rituals. So boring the shit out of you, is a way to put you into a suggestible state of "hypnosis" which just means you are more open to accept their Suggestions. Then they give suggestions to
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Its absolutely true that Kevin Hogan would be laughed out of the actual NLP hypnosis field. (unless they though they could make some money letting him do the marketing). So the Kevin Hogan's move to fleecing the general public, who know nothing about it. Ross Jeffries has chimed in on the James Ray situation, on the Guruphiliac blog. There are some mentions in these forums too. Jame
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

A very common cultic technique, is INDUCING CONFUSION. It works like magic. They put out confusing, and nonsensical "content" and their people try to make connections out of it. It lures people in. They create a fog of confusion, then the the leader leads the confused masses where he wants. Its standard stuff. That is why as soon as they start blowing smoke, and creating a fog o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Frankly, this thread was reading as a satire! Just reading the text from Swami...makes one go into a Trance...now...if you can make it through the paragraphs. Its the same thing being sold by Eckhart Tolle and about a million other Swamis, literally. Bad news folks, just detaching from reality and going into a Trance might feel good for a moment of release, but you are opening yourself up
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

By the way, was being sarcastic about ACIM. Most people only read a few pages, and then just trance out, and don't bother with it. Its highly unreadable. But can be used by various groups for that reason. Can't say that its "brainwashing" though, in the technical sense. But it is certainly used in thought reform, and new age manipulation systems as "content".
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

No, if you read the ACIM and start to believe it, you will get more and more passive, and spaced-out. Most people can't read the dang thing, it just puts you in a trance from page one, and its a huge book, designed to look like a bible in some publications. Of course, the Miracles stuff is somewhat concealed, they do a lot of dancing around it. But its better to just cut to the chase.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Unfortunately time is short, so more specifics will follow soon. But what has happened in the last day is a classic example of a persuasion technique, used on the internet, and far more powerfully in person. That is a cognitive FLOODING technique, being used by Bernie Poolman & Co. Its designed for new Desteni members, and for those who might be interested in Desteni, who might come acr
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

@ CosmicConnie: Abe-Hicks have a rather large multimilliondollar business going, with many followers. Even though Mrs Hicks is a horrible actress when she fakes going into a Abe-Trance, the Abe-Hicks couple ain't stupid. So of course they are not going to risk their own necks openly for James Ray, as James Ray might get convicted. Abe doesn't want to get tarred with James Ray, just
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

More fascinating info about Stuart Wilde and Scientology, from DR. That is very unique information, that people need to look into. It makes one wonder, is Stuart Wilde like LRH, crazy, or crazy like a fox? The evidence for Stuart Wilde point to crazy like a fox. Wilde was always quite clever, and was able to sell a lot of books years ago with his quips. But over time it got stranger and we
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

The link with the lizard stories reads like satire. Stuart Wilde might have starting doing outrageous things as a joke, and then found people believed him, so he just kept going further and further. What is very interesting, is that the INSTANT you start to read those weird fantasy Stories of shapeshifting human lizards and other bizarre fiction, you instantly go into a light Trance. Because
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Its very interesting how even though these various new age Gurus appear to be so "crazy", at the same time they are making huge amounts of money, are running many websites, publishing companies, cutting deals with publishers and media companies... And on the Stuart Wilde website, there is PR material written clearly by him, and it sounds normal, and then right after that, he goes int
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Matthew B. James (and his people who taught James Ray NLP, as shown below) were also into the abusive Siddha-Yoga cult and Muktananda. Muktananda also had his fingers into the NLP group persuasion tech, fusing the modern persuasion techniques and "spiritual" practices. This was explored in the Byron Katie thread, and this would be where the SYDA "install the guru in your body medi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

More proof that James Arthur Ray did in fact have very extensive NLP training in all of the various NLP tech, like group hypnosis, persuasion, trance induction, nested loops, embedded metaphors and all the NLP seminar techniques. The brazen lies from the NLPers on this issue are disgusting, but are to be expected as standard procedure, no surprises there. They just want to misdirect the "st
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"