Re: Samael Aun Weor ("gnostic" cult)
Date: July 31, 2009 06:16AM
I would just like to add one more detail to the record, for anyone who reads these forums trying to find information on the group i was talking about.
The over-arching feature of their doctrine is the sexual aspect of it. They teach a version of "chasity" that is pretty interesting, although not unheard of in certain new-age and eastern traditions. They insist that people should never have an orgasm, and that a man should never "spill" any semen. Ever. They promote practices of "alchemy" where a man and a woman have sex without, for lack of a better term, finishing in the way most people would. I know that this is similar to something gnosticweb (mysticweb when i was familiar with them) promotes. I never saw anybody do this, they said it was for a committed couple to do in private, but the practice they describe involves saying mantras and visualizing their sexual energy "transmuting," and other such things. I was single throughout the time of my involvement, so i do not know the impact this practice would have, nor do i know if there is any private instruction that they offer a couple who is interested. It would be interesting to hear from somebody who had engaged in this for a few years and then quit, to describe what effect it had on their sexual functions, not to mention their psychology. As a single person i had been simply chaste, which has effects of its own, but that is not as strange, as there are many religious people who refrain from any sexual acts or stimulation while they are unmarried. To begin having sex without finishing it must take extreme discipline and dedication to an ideal, perhaps that is what this group wants in people.
This practice is so central to their doctrine that it is repeated almost constantly in their lectures and in the books written by Samael. They also contend that single people will not make progress in "the work" until they find a spouse to take up this practice with, and they insist that homosexuals are completely lost causes. I cannot overemphasize how obsessed they are with sexual issues. It really is their one answer to all the universe's problems. I can only hope that my own psychology has recovered from this warped doctrine, and hope that others who have taken it seriously can be normal again.
Is it possible that their leader gains sexual access to women in the group by promoting this stuff? Possibly offering to teach them the methods? I have no idea, and it would be hard to make such an accusation since all the instructors were married and promoted monogamy. Again, what went on in deeper levels is known only to them. It is interesting to note that Victor Gomez, aka Samael Aun Weor, the founder of their movement, had quite a few children for someone who never spilled semen, some with women other than his wife. They have an explanation for that of course, which is a little tedious to explain. It is also interesting to note that many cults have strict guidelines on sex, often teaching some kind of chastity, while the leader/guru/whatever seems to gain sexual access to the female members. Just a pattern i've noticed. Whether or not anything like that happens in these gnostic groups is hard to say. They could simply be hung up on sexual issues for whatever reason, and whether or not their leaders are themselves chaste may vary from group to group.
As i mentioned, attendance at their lectures is sparse, as one would imagine for a group that promotes such an unpopular idea. The key may be that the few people you can convince of this doctrine would necessarily be troubled individuals ready to believe almost anything.