larry bobo Wrote:
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Others choose to remain an “employee” – “You seek
God for me and tell me what He says” – afraid
of personal responsibility.
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I recognize that this is likely true. And Invisible has posted that family in TLWF say they feel safe there. However in Jeremiah 5:31 God declares,"The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it that way. So now what will you do?" Something to ponder. As far a bumper stickers I am leaning toward "Elderskelter."

During my post my phone was ringing and I rushed it so I screwed up the above Jeremiah citation. The last sentence should read, "So what will you do in the end." I was as much to blame in my adoration of super apostle. My lesson learned is the fruit of a cult is many disillusioned lives who end up thinking if this is Christianity then I'm out of here. But because I was as much to blame, there was bitterness and a sense of loss that I wasted my time in the LW. So part of my time was spent in a false Christianity; I was as much to blame. Over and over a family member would tell me, "Isaiah's body was sawed in half and you are still crying crocodile tears. Snap out of it!" Eventually I did.

larry bobo wrote: [“Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.” Those words should have far more personal meaning now than they did a few decades ago.]

lily rose wrote: “So part of my time was spent in a false Christianity.”

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My father, who attends an American Baptist Church, had an operation three weeks ago. During the operation while I was in the waiting room my father’s “pastor” showed up. This pastor had taken part of the day off from his normal job (federal court official) to be with my dad. He has a degree from a divinity school and also served a Christian mission to the Philippines.

We began talking and I mentioned to him that I used to attend a “Latter Rain” type of church. He said, “Never heard of that.” That was the end of the religious discussion.

He was totally courteous, showing respect for me and my dad as well as giving part of his time in a serving manner. It was like a breath of fresh air and very strange to me since he seemed to operate on a level of love, service and concern only.

I need to learn about the “loving levels of service and ways of life” existing in perhaps ninety-nine percent of the rest of Christianity. It is a “Twilight Zone” experience when you begin to wonder if you’ve been walking around in a “cloud” for the greater part of your life.

I suspect “Militant Latter Rain Manifest Sons of God Teachings” have unduly besmirched and judged the rest of Christianity as well as generating a strong delusion for unfortunate adherents.

What a lovely story FCSLC. My mom had a decline in her mental abilities during the last years of her life and caring for her was the best thing I ever did because it restored our relationship. So much of the LW's interference in not allowing children to truly honor their parents was/is wrong.

I'm not sure where to begin, I have read
your posts for years but never felt the
need to discuss until now. I really have
no idea why, I wasn't actually born into
"The Walk" but my parents joined when I was
8 or 9 months old so I have no memories
of anything else obviously. My father is still
very involved as are many people I would consider
family if not by blood then by heart.
I left, well basically was ex-communicated
almost 24 years ago because I fell in love with
a boy that was deemed inappropriate for me.
In fact, a special meeting was held where
my parents and my siblings and the rest of the
congregation was told I was going to burn forever
because I did not submit and cower before the
shepherd at that time. Guess what, that wonderful boy
is now a man and I have had the pleasure of being
married to him for almost 22 years.
I experienced many abusive things transpire while apart
of the church and was a victim as well as I am so sorry
to say a perpetrator or at the very least a participant.
I also worked countless hours for nothing more than a pat
on the head and possibly a Scooby snack every now and then.
I don't know why I need to reach out, but I do. I'm here
and would love to talk. I can address with pretty good recollection
of Shiloh in the 70's and White water/Denver/Colorado Springs/Palmer Lake
and some
San Diego but I was pretty young then. I remember JRS and was
ministered to as a child several times.
I have lots of questions.

Wow FA. Thank you for sharing. I love your story and the positive outcome it had. That type of abuse is common in TLWF. In fact it still goes on even today. If you have questions, feel free to ask. We'd all love to help.

Welcome.

Welcome FA. This forum should provide a good outlet for you. Feel free to express yourself.

FCSLC Wrote:
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> He was totally courteous, showing respect for me
> and my dad as well as giving part of his time in a
> serving manner. It was like a breath of fresh air
> and very strange to me since he seemed to operate
> on a level of love, service and concern only.

How bizarre that being a decent, caring human being while serving God can seem so foreign to us. It's analogous to taking your car to a mechanic and then being amazed that the car gets fixed. O.K.--weak example, but I think you get my point.

I think for most of us, our definition of "normal" is still a bit out of wack.

Welcome filthy apron:

We made the trip from Salt Lake City to Whitewater, Colorado two or three times for feasts. Leland Bailey was the main dude at the time. I always wanted to skip some church time in order to see why they called it Whitewater--------assuming there were rapids on the Colorado River. We did see the confluence of the Gunnison and Colorado. (Do you remember Ralph Haglock?? We did some mountain climbing)

Welcome again!!!