changedagain Wrote:
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> FCSLC Wrote:
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> > I’m quite confident TLWF leadership has
> > “secret formulas” useful in group settings
> to
> > generate a general psychic/spiritual assault on
> > the target.
>
> It usually involves programs people are put on
> isolate and/or humiliate them to a great extent.
> One of my experiences was being demoted from a
> shepherd (7 years) to a set-aside elder, and then
> directed to turn pages for the organist/pianist
> during church services. At the time, this meant a
> minimum of five services a week, over the course
> of a year. On the bright side, I know I was
> personally responsible for a higher level of
> worship during this time period...even though no
> one confirmed it.
> BTW--I also had the honor of being put over the
> maintenance of the church...which was sold a year
> after I left, the money (allegedly) being placed
> in the lamp's trust fund.
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Changedagain thank you for sharing your experience. It really shines a light on the godfather nature of church leadership that is based on control, manipulation, and delusion. Even under JRS, brilliant men with successful jobs and families were told to give up their employment to start kingdom businesses, only to face financial ruin. To what end....to cross them, break them, control them, see them suffer enough so JRS could create his 1000 maniacs.. oops I mean prophets?

lily rose wrote: “Changedagain thank you for sharing your experience. It really shines a light on the godfather nature of church leadership that is based on control, manipulation, and delusion. Even under JRS, brilliant men with successful jobs and families were told to give up their employment to start kingdom businesses, only to face financial ruin. To what end....to cross them, break them, control them, see them suffer enough so JRS could create his 1000 maniacs. oops I mean prophets?”

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Well put lily rose. To what end-----to control and make all decisions for the world, the universe and eventually the Creator God? Seems like a weird ambition when you look at it closely.

The need for control and dominance must have some sort of psychological explanation; one of imbalance caused by abnormal beliefs, bad childhood experiences, illusions of grandeur, madness, revenge, jealousy, machoism and even demon possession.

I'm sorta sorry I posted that link to patheos dot com. While the
article had some very valid points about the trauma inflicted on
people by hard-core Christianity, when you dig a little bit deeper and
read more, it appears that that blog is run by hard-core atheists.
Just another group of evangelicals with a hidden agenda as far as I
can tell.

I think most of us are looking for the "truth about the 'truth' ".
For some of us, that means total denial of a higher power. For some,
it is more of an agnostic approach. And for some, it is finding a
healthier Christian environment. For some it is whole new ideology
all together. I think it is all good. I'm not going to lay my belief
system on anyone and I'm sorry if the link to that site did that for
anyone. It wasn't my intention.

Peace and healing to all of you.

Paleface, thanks for pointing that out. I dug a little deeper into some of the psychologist's thoughts on RTS and came across one victim's complaint that seemed to border on the ridiculous..."rapture anxiety." I don't thing anyone in our little cult has that affliction.

lily rose Wrote:
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> Paleface, thanks for pointing that out. I dug a
> little deeper into some of the psychologist's
> thoughts on RTS and came across one victim's
> complaint that seemed to border on the
> ridiculous..."rapture anxiety." I don't thing
> anyone in our little cult has that affliction.

Zero with the rim rubbed out...did he mention that affliction? Just curious.

I remember Brenda Longest commenting, “I hope Jesus doesn’t show up when I’m in the shower” --- jokingly.

Some years ago on national TV Ted Turner announced that Christians were losers. Then a few years later I saw him on 60 Minutes. He looked like zero with the rim rubbed out. He lost everything. I remember writing this note to self, embrace it...this life is a test; pretty much all you have to do is remain faithful.

Forbes has Ted Turner listed at $2.2 billion, self made. Perhaps his opinion of Christianity held him back from his true potential.

Lamp,

At the time I saw Ted Turner on CNN he was contrite because he had lost CNN estimated at the time to be worth 7 billion. Today its estimated value is 80 billion. At the time, I imagine losing CNN was a hard for him. I didn't say that things became hard for him because he said Christian's were losers. My point was that life can be a test, even for titans like Ted Turner.

Rapture Anxiety For Cult Leaders:


In my opinion, G&M would look bad if some of TLWF sheep were raptured out of here before them. And in my “cult chain of command thinking” & “divine-order protocol,” the raptured sheep would be in “rebellion” for not getting permission. Rules are rules!!