First some clarity.
I do not work for Landmark or Quest or any other "transformational company" and in fact have not attended a Landmark,Quest or Insight workshop. I deliberately did not mention which workshops I had done because I knew someone would suggest I worked for X or Y. If you want confirmation of this I will gladly forward you my work details in private.
and I am a little shocked at the response to my post.
I put forward my experiences and now I am a liar because it differs from what you experienced?
SaneAgain :*SHRUG* sorry I misspelled it and thank you for not attacking me as some others did here. :)
elena : You don't know me and yet you judge me? I assure you I have great sympathy for SaneAgain and anyone else who has had bad experience with this kind of thing, as I stated in my my initial post this "cult" as you call it has worked for me. and many many others like me - same way shrinks work for many many people and not for others and in fact some people come out of therapy more damaged then when they went in (I speak from experience here) and lets not even get started on the psychosis brought on by legal medication dished out so freely by psychiatrists.
If you want to get nasty I propose that you are just upset that it didn't work for you. perhaps the attitude you display towards others stopped you from "Getting it"? - note the sarcasm.
It is a good 2 years down the line and my life works - sorry .. I guess.
and this is not a fu*k you to SaneAgain or anyone else really
it is a clear statement of fact - for me and many other like me this has worked wonders.
I am not denying that some people should probably not attend these kinds of things because
yes - they are stressful.
yes - you are thrown into chaos
yes - you are forced to face your fears head on.
and some times these things can be too much
Finally I would like it very much if we could continue this debate without name calling and other nastiness.
I joined this forum to contribute and offer my views on things
If this is not what the forum was set up for please let me know and i will leave
Even though I disagree with Matt' post here on many points. He does make a solid point that I am in agreement with.
This forum does go to far to the ohter extreme in judging things.
I am not guiltless, as well as matt is not guiltless as there is not an approach that addresses the damaged folks from these LGAT's such as me.
Yet, I do not want to be as arrogant as this post is being in not addressing the overall impact of LGAT's and looking by declaring how it works for me and thats that.
There needs to be a blend of sharing that allows for all views to be posted, and allowed in a manner for everyone to make a informed decision without being told what to think, or not think.
So, on that note. I agree with matt in part here, and disagree with matt in other parts.
Mainly in how these LGAT's do not screen out participants that are dealing with emotional damage that the LGAT will aggravate and cause the person to self destruct in trying to apply a philosophy that is extremely damaging to a already emotionally damaged person.
I can't go to a place of saying how it would affect a healthy person emotionally.
All I can use is myself as a reference point, and the people that I saw in my 2 year of 3 seminars, and a 4th one that had two mini weekend seminars with a 6 month long enmeshing the beliefs into my daily life to go on.
I did see many other emotionally disturbed people in my experiences in these seminars as well. I saw others making emotionally destructive choices as well during all these seminars.
The LGAT kept grinding in the aspect to only look at myself, and what I was experiencing only.
Which in my opinion was to keep me from being aware of the overall picture of what was happening to participants lives.
So, matt. I am glad it works well for you. Yet at the same time I agree to disagree with you broad statements made about how good an LGAT is just because you are making it work in your life.
But, at the same time. I will also not hound you to the ground in how wrong your view is here.
Readers will read all the posts on this forum and draw there own informed decision after reading them.
Including your posts in support of them.
So, thanks for deceptively manipulating a topic thread where you can turn obvious lean towards a negative judgement against this forum in your attempt to be supporting an LGAT with a very tactfull manner of using the negative on this forum agianst itself as you did here.
Your a sly one. But I have to had it to you. You used the tactic of an LGAT facilitator in doing so.