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army-of-me
Greetings everyone,
I just barely finished Quest last week. I am in the process of reading the contents of this entire thread. I am about half way through the 26 page saga, and I plan on finishing it as soon as I have time.
I just have to say to most everyone who has posted here: thank you for all that you have shared. I only went though Quest and the few days I've had since graduation have been spent trying to forget and de-program everything I just experienced. I went in feeling pretty happy and functional hoping to attain even more happiness and functionality. I came out feeling anxious, depressed, confused, angry, powerless/powerful (yes, both) and sleep deprived. (nice results, eh?)
I have a desire to write a long email to everyone in my "impact family" detailing my thoughts on the whole thing so that maybe, just maybe, the idea that one person had a bad experience will give them an idea to re-evaluate (or more accurately just evaluate to begin with) any decisions to move on in the trainings. Or maybe just introduce to them the "possibility" that it was actually a bad thing for someone. I hesitate to do so because I fear reliving "the feedback arcs" again in email replies, yet I would also want to respond to anyone who replies who wants to discuss it rationally. What do you guys think?
Yesterday I felt like I would explode, but reading this thread has already started healing the wounds that are so fresh (and hopefully not very deep). Again, I'm grateful I only went to Quest, or else I would be calling a therapist instead of typing this.
Greetings army,
To be honest, one of the reasons I started posting on these boards is for people like you. I do want people to stay away from the trainings altogether, but my main hope is that people [i:e6b08841bd]currently[/i:e6b08841bd] involved in the trainings will see what is here and leave, thusly preventing further trauma and impoverishment inflicted by these quacks. So, congratulations, I am genuinely happy for you and everyone you care about.
As far as emailing your “Impact Family”, (or as I like to call them, “strangers Impact uses to guilt you into thinking you are a bad person”) I have seen variations of this kind of attempt to save their buddies and they have all had similar results. In Summit, there is a process where the trainees wash each others feet as Jesus did to Mary Magdalene. Long ago in the Harmony days, between their Summit and Lift-Off trainings, a group of various LDS buddies sent the group an email, bashing Impact’s plagiarism of a sacred LDS rite and asked that the group boycott the trainings. They also included the official LDS statement that warns people away from LGAT’s (why so many Mormons irrationally disregard this warning from the Brethren, I'll never understand). During the post training, a trainer (who is no longer with Impact) used these LDS buddies as an example of THE WAR religion and the “outside world” can cause and basically vilified and threw them under the bus. I think one or two people that were at the post training left because of this, but I am not positive. I witnessed attempts at this "LDS viewpoint coup" numerous times, and it makes some people re-think the trainings, but I remember that some trainees claimed that it pushed them harder into the training. My opinion is that those individuls it “pushes harder” are lost anyway, and have abandoned reason to a significant degree.
The non-LDS approach (emails etc.) has been done, and the results are similar, but reach more than just the LDS trainees. And now with the information available to everyone through this message board, you could give them data from these pages and links to them etc. The Cult of the TIT will be quite contentious for many at the Quest level, because they aren’t quite as deep into the conditioning as they will be after Summit. You may be able to get people who are on the fence about moving on to summit to join you. Impact will try to intimidate you to stop (as all LGAT's do. If it were not for intimidation they would be out of work), but they will not follow through on any of it because they would have to expose the details as to what goes on inside the training. Even if you only get one person to change their mind about Impact, it’s a victory. As far as the electronic feedback arc fear goes, let them do what they want! That is what the trash folder is for. They do not know anything about you other than what you shared in Quest, so, they may know some facts about your life, [i:e6b08841bd]but they haven’t a clue as to who you really are,[/i:e6b08841bd] although they may have convinced you that they do. That training room is not, as they say, a “life simulator” , rather, it’s a “fiction propagator”! All seemingly intimate relationships formed in that environment are created in a place that is built on false pretenses and delusion induced by mental conditioning and intimidation.
Good on ya, army! And good luck with everything you are trying to accomplish. Yes, I mean “try”. It’s that process that happens between not accomplishing something and accomplishing that thing. It does exist! That is why we have a word for it! :D
Cheers,
ex