Another couple points on communications:
The only way to really combat these exploitative groups, of which there are many, is through accurate knowledge.
Once a person has carefully researched the precise TECHNIQUES used by these groups on people, which is not easy to do, then its much easier to explain them to friends or family who might be getting lured in by some group.
These groups try to coach their recruits to alienate themselves from their family for that very reason.
But if a person knows the techniques being used by the group, explaining those techniques to their friend can often help the person see what the hell is really is going on.
Some people are money-scam sensitive, to if they can be shown the $ SCAM going down, then they see what is happening right away. From experience, some "men" respond very well to being shown how some group is just after their money, they get that, and just close their wallet, and the group loses interest in them, as they just did want their money!
Some might have knowledge from therapy, and can be attuned to the emotional abuses happening from the group.
Some with a more technical mind, might be able to see the persuasion techniques being used.
Or if a person is in sales, showing them exactly how they have been sold can help.
Those will some legal training, might respond better to that side of it, although of course that can go the other way.
Each person is different. There have been cases where sending someone links to criticisms of the sect is enough. In other cases, anonymous emails explaining the sect's tactics have worked, often it does not work.
Some respond to just being told the blunt facts, backed up with proof directly, for some that backfires.
So obviously is complicated and difficult.
But waiting until after people have been indoctrinated in an ManKind Project 48 hour "brainwashing" session, is waiting too long.
MKP is using extremely harsh and powerful techniques on these men, deliberately. They are deliberately using deception and bait-and-switch, to get people to attend, to they can be bushwacked. That is the MKP plan.
Landmark Education, like MKP, also has a waiver full of many of the ways Landmark can harm you.
QUOTE: "I just found this waiver posted on another thread on this board, and my stomach is churning. My boyfriend must have signed this." [
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To make their sales numbers, many local Landmark salespeople, will VERBALLY tell people to ignore the waiver, and say that its just legal mumbo-jumbo, and to just sign it.
They will say things that are the opposite to the legal contract, like dishonest salespeople will do.
A great way to counter-act this, is when the LGAT salesperson is telling you all of their verbal BS, you pull out your phone video-recorder, and ask them to state their name, date, and then to RECORD what they are saying that contradicts the contract.
And/or, get them to write it down, and sign it, and to say that the contract does not apply to you.
Then tell them you are going to get it legally notarized at the notary at the mall.
Game-over.
Landmark's "waiver" and Disclaimer Judo [
forum.culteducation.com]
Landmark and Psychosis...[
forum.culteducation.com]
by Landmarks own criteria, most people should NOT take Landmark.
So don't take it.
If anyone ever asks you again to take Landmark again in your life, just tell them to read their own disclaimer that states most people should NOT take Landmark.
That is the perfect way to shut these Landmark recruiters up. Read your own ridiculous disclaimer.
Or tell them to sign on the disclaimer that they personally think YOU should take it. Get them to sign their name on the Landmark disclaimer stating they think you should take Landmark.
This is actually the perfect LGAT buster...ask for the LGAT disclaimer signed by the salesperson personally, stating why you should take it.
They will go numb all over and walk away.
Its tempting to go into some Landmark Intro meeting to "discuss" that disclaimer for about 3 hrs publically in front of the new recruits..
this is the perfect way to get rid of the LGAT recruiters.
Ask for the Disclaimer for the LGAT.
Then get them to cross-out the parts of it that don't apply to you, and ask them to sign it personally, or have their manager sign it.
Then tell them you are going to get it legally notarized at the notary at the mall.
If everyone did that, they would be out of business.
Its Judo, just use their own disclaimer against them.
If they say they don't have a disclaimer, get them to sign a document saying they don't have a disclaimer.
you will never hear from them again.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/26/2010 01:52AM by The Anticult.