Re: Guru Swami G
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Re: Guru Swami G
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Date: November 22, 2010 09:01AM
The definition of a cult.
See [www.culteducation.com]
Certain psychological themes which recur in these various historical contexts also arise in the study of cults. Cults can be identified by three characteristics:
1. a charismatic leader who increasingly becomes an object of worship as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose their power;
2. a process I call coercive persuasion or thought reform;
3. economic, sexual, and other exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie.
Milieu Control
The first method characteristically used by ideological totalism is milieu control: the control of all communication within a given environment. In such an environment individual autonomy becomes a threat to the group. There is an attempt to manage an individual's inner communication. Milieu control is maintained and expressed by intense group process, continuous psychological pressure, and isolation by geographical distance, unavailability of transportation, or even physical restraint. Often the group creates an increasingly intense sequence of events such as seminars, lectures and encounters which makes leaving extremely difficult, both physically and psychologically. Intense milieu control can contribute to a dramatic change of identity which I call doubling: the formation of a second self which lives side by side with the former one, often for a considerable time. When the milieu control is lifted, elements of the earlier self may be reasserted.
Creating a Pawn
A second characteristic of totalistic environments is mystical manipulation or planned spontaneity. This is a systematic process through which the leadership can create in cult members what I call the psychology of the pawn. The process is managed so that it appears to arise spontaneously; to its objects it rarely feels like manipulation. Religious techniques such as fasting, chanting and limited sleep are used. Manipulation may take on a special intense quality in a cult for which a particular chosen' human being is the only source of salvation. The person of the leader may attract members to the cult, but can also be a source of disillusionment. If members of the Unification Church, for example, come to believe that Sun Myung Moon, its founder, is associated with the Korean Central Intelligence Agency, they may lose their faith. Mystical manipulation may also legitimate deception of outsiders, as in the "heavenly deception" of the Unification Church and analogous practices in other cult environments. Anyone who has not seen the light and therefore lives in the realm of evil can be justifiably deceived for a higher purpose. For instance, collectors of funds may be advised to deny their affiliation with a cult that has a dubious public reputation.
Purity and Confession
Two other features of totalism are a demand for purity and a cult of confession. The demand for purity is a call for radical separation of good and evil within the environment and within oneself. Purification is a continuing process, often institutionalized in the cult of confession, which enforces conformity through guilt and shame evoked by mutual criticism and self-criticism in small groups.
Confessions contain varying mixtures of revelation and concealment. As Albert Camus observed, "Authors of confessions write especially to avoid confession, to tell nothing of what they know." Young cult members confessing the sins of their precultic lives may leave out ideas and feelings that they are not aware of or reluctant to discuss, including a continuing identification with their prior existence. Repetitious confession, especially in required meetings, often expresses an arrogance in the name of humility. As Camus wrote: "I practice the profession of penitence to be able to end up as a judge," and, "The more I accuse myself, the more I have a right to judge you."
Three further aspects of ideological totalism are "sacred science," "loading of the language," and the principle of "doctrine over person." Sacred science is important because a claim of being scientific is often needed to gain plausibility and influence in the modern age. The Unification Church is one example of a contemporary tendency to combine dogmatic religious principles with a claim to special scientific knowledge of human behavior and psychology. The term loading the language' refers to literalism and a tendency to deify words or images. A simplified, cliche-ridden language can exert enormous psychological force reducing every issue in a complicated life to a single set of slogans that are said to embody the truth as a totality. The principle of doctrine over person' is invoked when cult members sense a conflict between what they are experiencing and what dogma says they should experience. The internalized message of the totalistic environment is that one must negate that personal experience on behalf of the truth of the dogma. Contradictions become associated with guilt: doubt indicates one's own deficiency or evil.
Perhaps the most significant characteristic of totalistic movements is what I call "dispensing of existence." Those who have not seen the light and embraced the truth are wedded to evil, tainted, and therefore in some sense, usually metaphorical, lack the right to exist. That is one reason why a cult member threatened with being cast into outer darkness may experience a fear of extinction or collapse. Under particularly malignant conditions, the dispensing of existence is taken literally; in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and elsewhere, people were put to death for alleged doctrinal shortcomings. In the People's Temple mass suicide-murder in Guyana, a cult leader presided over the literal dispensing of existence by means of a suicidal mystique he himself had made a central theme in the group's ideology. The totalistic impulse to draw a sharp line between those who have the right to live and those who do not is especially dangerous in the nuclear age.
Historical Context
Totalism should always be considered within a specific historical context. A significant feature of contemporary life is the historical (or psycho historical) dislocation resulting from a loss of the symbolic structures that organize ritual transitions in the life cycle, and a decay of belief systems concerning religion, authority, marriage, family, and death. One function of cults is to provide a group initiation rite for the transition to early adult life, and the formation of an adult identity outside the family. Cult members have good reasons for seeing attempts by the larger culture to make such provisions as hypocritical or confused.
In providing substitute symbols for young people, cults are both radical and reactionary. They are radical because they suggest rude questions about middle-class family life and American political and religious values in general. They are reactionary because they revive premodern structures of authority and sometimes establish fascist patterns of internal organization. Furthermore, in their assault on autonomy and self-definition some cults reject a liberating historical process that has evolved with great struggle and pain in the West since the Renaissance. (Cults must be considered individually in making such judgments. Historical dislocation is one source of what I call the "protean style." This involves a continuous psychological experimentation with the self, a capacity for endorsing contradictory ideas at the same time, and a tendency to change one's ideas, companions and way of life with relative ease. Cults embody a contrary restricted style,' a flight from experimentation and the confusion of a protean world. These contraries are related: groups and individuals can embrace a protean and a restricted style in turn. For instance, the so-called hippie ethos of the 1960s and 1970s has been replaced by the present so-called Yuppie preoccupation with safe jobs and comfortable incomes. For some people, experimentation with a cult is part of the protean search.
The imagery of extinction derived from the con temporary threat of nuclear war influences patterns of totalism and fundamentalism throughout the world. Nuclear war threatens human continuity itself and impairs the symbols of immortality. Cults seize upon this threat to provide immortalizing principles of their own. The cult environment supplies a continuous opportunity for the experience of transcendence -- a mode of symbolic immortality generally suppressed in advanced industrial society.
Role of Psychology
Cults raise serious psychological concerns, and there is a place for psychologists and psychiatrists in understanding and treating cult members. But our powers as mental health professionals are limited, so we should exercise restraint. When helping a young person confused about a cult situation, it is important to maintain a personal therapeutic contract so that one is not working for the cult or for the parents. Totalism begets totalism. What is called deprogramming includes a continuum from intense dialogue on the one hand to physical coercion and kidnaping, with thought-reform-like techniques, on the other. My own position, which I have repeatedly conveyed to parents and others who consult me, is to oppose coercion at either end of the cult process. Cults are primarily a social and cultural rather than a psychiatric or legal problem. But psychological professionals can make important contributions to the public education crucial for dealing with the problem. With greater knowledge about them, people are less susceptible to deception, and for that reason some cults have been finding it more difficult to recruit members.
Yet painful moral dilemmas remain. When laws are violated through fraud or specific harm to recruits, legal intervention is clearly indicated. But what about situations in which behavior is virtually automatized, language reduced to rote and cliche, yet the cult member expresses a certain satisfaction or even happiness? We must continue to seek ways to encourage a social commitment to individual autonomy and avoid coercion and violence.
See [www.culteducation.com]
Certain psychological themes which recur in these various historical contexts also arise in the study of cults. Cults can be identified by three characteristics:
1. a charismatic leader who increasingly becomes an object of worship as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose their power;
2. a process I call coercive persuasion or thought reform;
3. economic, sexual, and other exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie.
Milieu Control
The first method characteristically used by ideological totalism is milieu control: the control of all communication within a given environment. In such an environment individual autonomy becomes a threat to the group. There is an attempt to manage an individual's inner communication. Milieu control is maintained and expressed by intense group process, continuous psychological pressure, and isolation by geographical distance, unavailability of transportation, or even physical restraint. Often the group creates an increasingly intense sequence of events such as seminars, lectures and encounters which makes leaving extremely difficult, both physically and psychologically. Intense milieu control can contribute to a dramatic change of identity which I call doubling: the formation of a second self which lives side by side with the former one, often for a considerable time. When the milieu control is lifted, elements of the earlier self may be reasserted.
Creating a Pawn
A second characteristic of totalistic environments is mystical manipulation or planned spontaneity. This is a systematic process through which the leadership can create in cult members what I call the psychology of the pawn. The process is managed so that it appears to arise spontaneously; to its objects it rarely feels like manipulation. Religious techniques such as fasting, chanting and limited sleep are used. Manipulation may take on a special intense quality in a cult for which a particular chosen' human being is the only source of salvation. The person of the leader may attract members to the cult, but can also be a source of disillusionment. If members of the Unification Church, for example, come to believe that Sun Myung Moon, its founder, is associated with the Korean Central Intelligence Agency, they may lose their faith. Mystical manipulation may also legitimate deception of outsiders, as in the "heavenly deception" of the Unification Church and analogous practices in other cult environments. Anyone who has not seen the light and therefore lives in the realm of evil can be justifiably deceived for a higher purpose. For instance, collectors of funds may be advised to deny their affiliation with a cult that has a dubious public reputation.
Purity and Confession
Two other features of totalism are a demand for purity and a cult of confession. The demand for purity is a call for radical separation of good and evil within the environment and within oneself. Purification is a continuing process, often institutionalized in the cult of confession, which enforces conformity through guilt and shame evoked by mutual criticism and self-criticism in small groups.
Confessions contain varying mixtures of revelation and concealment. As Albert Camus observed, "Authors of confessions write especially to avoid confession, to tell nothing of what they know." Young cult members confessing the sins of their precultic lives may leave out ideas and feelings that they are not aware of or reluctant to discuss, including a continuing identification with their prior existence. Repetitious confession, especially in required meetings, often expresses an arrogance in the name of humility. As Camus wrote: "I practice the profession of penitence to be able to end up as a judge," and, "The more I accuse myself, the more I have a right to judge you."
Three further aspects of ideological totalism are "sacred science," "loading of the language," and the principle of "doctrine over person." Sacred science is important because a claim of being scientific is often needed to gain plausibility and influence in the modern age. The Unification Church is one example of a contemporary tendency to combine dogmatic religious principles with a claim to special scientific knowledge of human behavior and psychology. The term loading the language' refers to literalism and a tendency to deify words or images. A simplified, cliche-ridden language can exert enormous psychological force reducing every issue in a complicated life to a single set of slogans that are said to embody the truth as a totality. The principle of doctrine over person' is invoked when cult members sense a conflict between what they are experiencing and what dogma says they should experience. The internalized message of the totalistic environment is that one must negate that personal experience on behalf of the truth of the dogma. Contradictions become associated with guilt: doubt indicates one's own deficiency or evil.
Perhaps the most significant characteristic of totalistic movements is what I call "dispensing of existence." Those who have not seen the light and embraced the truth are wedded to evil, tainted, and therefore in some sense, usually metaphorical, lack the right to exist. That is one reason why a cult member threatened with being cast into outer darkness may experience a fear of extinction or collapse. Under particularly malignant conditions, the dispensing of existence is taken literally; in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and elsewhere, people were put to death for alleged doctrinal shortcomings. In the People's Temple mass suicide-murder in Guyana, a cult leader presided over the literal dispensing of existence by means of a suicidal mystique he himself had made a central theme in the group's ideology. The totalistic impulse to draw a sharp line between those who have the right to live and those who do not is especially dangerous in the nuclear age.
Historical Context
Totalism should always be considered within a specific historical context. A significant feature of contemporary life is the historical (or psycho historical) dislocation resulting from a loss of the symbolic structures that organize ritual transitions in the life cycle, and a decay of belief systems concerning religion, authority, marriage, family, and death. One function of cults is to provide a group initiation rite for the transition to early adult life, and the formation of an adult identity outside the family. Cult members have good reasons for seeing attempts by the larger culture to make such provisions as hypocritical or confused.
In providing substitute symbols for young people, cults are both radical and reactionary. They are radical because they suggest rude questions about middle-class family life and American political and religious values in general. They are reactionary because they revive premodern structures of authority and sometimes establish fascist patterns of internal organization. Furthermore, in their assault on autonomy and self-definition some cults reject a liberating historical process that has evolved with great struggle and pain in the West since the Renaissance. (Cults must be considered individually in making such judgments. Historical dislocation is one source of what I call the "protean style." This involves a continuous psychological experimentation with the self, a capacity for endorsing contradictory ideas at the same time, and a tendency to change one's ideas, companions and way of life with relative ease. Cults embody a contrary restricted style,' a flight from experimentation and the confusion of a protean world. These contraries are related: groups and individuals can embrace a protean and a restricted style in turn. For instance, the so-called hippie ethos of the 1960s and 1970s has been replaced by the present so-called Yuppie preoccupation with safe jobs and comfortable incomes. For some people, experimentation with a cult is part of the protean search.
The imagery of extinction derived from the con temporary threat of nuclear war influences patterns of totalism and fundamentalism throughout the world. Nuclear war threatens human continuity itself and impairs the symbols of immortality. Cults seize upon this threat to provide immortalizing principles of their own. The cult environment supplies a continuous opportunity for the experience of transcendence -- a mode of symbolic immortality generally suppressed in advanced industrial society.
Role of Psychology
Cults raise serious psychological concerns, and there is a place for psychologists and psychiatrists in understanding and treating cult members. But our powers as mental health professionals are limited, so we should exercise restraint. When helping a young person confused about a cult situation, it is important to maintain a personal therapeutic contract so that one is not working for the cult or for the parents. Totalism begets totalism. What is called deprogramming includes a continuum from intense dialogue on the one hand to physical coercion and kidnaping, with thought-reform-like techniques, on the other. My own position, which I have repeatedly conveyed to parents and others who consult me, is to oppose coercion at either end of the cult process. Cults are primarily a social and cultural rather than a psychiatric or legal problem. But psychological professionals can make important contributions to the public education crucial for dealing with the problem. With greater knowledge about them, people are less susceptible to deception, and for that reason some cults have been finding it more difficult to recruit members.
Yet painful moral dilemmas remain. When laws are violated through fraud or specific harm to recruits, legal intervention is clearly indicated. But what about situations in which behavior is virtually automatized, language reduced to rote and cliche, yet the cult member expresses a certain satisfaction or even happiness? We must continue to seek ways to encourage a social commitment to individual autonomy and avoid coercion and violence.
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
indiaspark
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Date: November 22, 2010 01:56PM
Thank goodness for forums like these which promote reason and rational thought.
I live in India and despair at all the irrational stuff that is passed off here is as some sacred knowledge. It is nothing but primitive abstract ideas which are unscientific. The meme called "Hinduism" is not some benign religion. Its as harmful as any other blind faith. People like guru g are doing just that, selling some exotic sounding ideas to gullible westerners. The aggressiveness of the followers of this internet guru defending her here has all the signs of a cult.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/2010 02:03PM by indiaspark.
I live in India and despair at all the irrational stuff that is passed off here is as some sacred knowledge. It is nothing but primitive abstract ideas which are unscientific. The meme called "Hinduism" is not some benign religion. Its as harmful as any other blind faith. People like guru g are doing just that, selling some exotic sounding ideas to gullible westerners. The aggressiveness of the followers of this internet guru defending her here has all the signs of a cult.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/2010 02:03PM by indiaspark.
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
indiaspark
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Date: November 22, 2010 02:02PM
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rese
I just signed up to hopefully clarify the definition of *cult* for the participants of these forums, like the ongoing debate between Guru Patrol and others is trying to achieve.
Sceptics here need seriously to consider if all religion and spirituality is a cult or not. If authentic spiritual teachers exist, the criteria need clarification in order to be helpful.
If every whiner gets to name his/her latest attended class or retreat a cult, because some of his/her capriciousness was not met there or because there was some hint at discipline or commitment, then this is not helpful if the objective of these forums is to identify and reveal actual criminal abuses. By capriciousness I mean e.g. "proof of Kundalini" that Indiaspark demanded from Swami G. Seriously, do you demand proof of molecules from your chemistry teacher?
I have seen similar degenerated argumentation before. I have seen people deny reality of dreams because obviously nobody can materially show or prove one's own dreams to another. Let's hope this forum can stay mature, instead of blindly denialistic in the area of spirituality.
At each and every school there is a distinction of roles: the teacher speaks, the student listens. You accept it in public high schools, don't you? So why should it be any different with spiritual instructors? There is a reasonable balance somewhere and I hope you find it.
As to the actual topic at hand, it has been extremely gracious of Guru Swami G to have come here to meet the allegations thrown against her. I am not saying anything about her spiritual qualifications (though her posts clearly reveal their essence and level), but from the point of view of general didactics I see a genuinely compassionate and well-meaning personality. Her appearance here deserves much gratitude and appreciation and also indicates the importance of these forums among spiritual seekers.
Comparing abstract eastern ideas to a science like chemistry is silly to say the least. Spiritual qualifications? What on earth is that?
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: December 25, 2010 12:29AM
Money
On the Kundalini Support Site note this: A request that ones story be kept private is treated as egotistical and one must pay $25 to have ones name omitted.
Orientation
[www.ashram-annex.com]
Consultations
On the Kundalini Support Site note this: A request that ones story be kept private is treated as egotistical and one must pay $25 to have ones name omitted.
Quote
Confidentiality--the Kundalini Support Site as of 12-24-2010
To Submit A Quesiton to SatGuru G:
Notice: If you don't want your answer posted for all to read then make a minimum donation of $25.00 or more with a notation for quick consult for (your name) - then send your question in for review ... The cost is free if one is willing to be transparent as your question and answer may aide others .... this is what is going to be a requirement of walking this path.
No one has anything to hide when it comes to gaining Truth... It's just a game of ego to think that their story warrants secrecy and specialized attention... Do you want Truthful Pointings or to buy what is going to sooth the ego? Am not selling ego salve but rather giving what is going to bring one to Realization and full Liberation in the end...
Ask your question by clicking here. The question and answer WILL BE POSTED FOR THE AID OF OTHERS unless you donate $25 to the Online Ashram
[www.kundalinisupport.com]
Orientation
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BEFORE REQUESTING DIKSHA REQUIREMENTS MUST BE MET...
1. Minimum 1 moth of starting practices
2. Consistency in posting (at least once a week, bests that it is more)
3. Must have read Kundalini from Hell to Heaven by SwamiGuruG
4.. Must have read and Understood --- A Dangerous Friend
5. Must Understand the focus of this path in regards to Celibacy - Honesty --- Integrity and Transparency
6. Must sign the document that states you Understand the Kundalini will be awakened if it already is not and that you Accept full responsibility for that action...
7. You understand that this path is for Life ---
8. If you leave this path once having taken Diksha you are NOT Allowed to continue using the Diksha practices or mantras....
9. If you leave this path once there is a bond with Guru - ALL the Karma that has been Transmuted by Guru will return to you... AND you will face the karmic consequences of reneging on the commitments made...
10. Any taking Diksha SHOULD be sending in Monthly Donations as a way of honoring what is being given by Guru and as a way to aide in keeping a Community in place... Every spiritual tradition has this admonition of paying tithes - most say 10 % of your salary but here there is simply the admonition to give what you can... Look at what you have and then make a commitment as to what is appropriate... This aides in not taking things for granted and for keeping the flow in place....
11. Those taking Diksha should be posting and checking in minimumtwice a week ...
12.. Practices given MUST be kept Sacred and used in the Authorized manner...
[www.ashram-annex.com]
Consultations
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Quote:
Consultations
Guru Swami G is available for questions and consultation for those who are not students on this path. The donation schedule is:
• Consultation: $50 per 1/2 hour, $100 per hour.
If you have 'special circumstances' and cannot afford these donation amounts then send an email and explain what would be possible.
If you decide you want to go forward with a consultation please use the donation button on the left, then send your information, with a phone number or a Skype ID, along with a time frame (based on Eastern time), for Guru-G to get back to you to: info@guruswamig.com. If you give a time frame, please make sure you are available and that you have your phone with you. Guru SwamiG will make one attempt to call you and if you are not there, the money will be refunded.
grace
Please show your respect and appreciation for the consultation given — do not interrupt GuruG or speak over her. This is being offered to aide humanity as very few Gurus will openly offer to give consulations for such a small donational offering, so please respect what is being given. The consultation is for your benefit and not hers.
OM Shanti Thank you -
Quote:
Consultations
Guru Swami G is available for questions and consultation for those who are not students on this path. The donation schedule is:
• Consultation: $50 per 1/2 hour, $100 per hour.
If you have 'special circumstances' and cannot afford these donation amounts then send an email and explain what would be possible.
If you decide you want to go forward with a consultation please use the donation button on the left, then send your information, with a phone number or a Skype ID, along with a time frame (based on Eastern time), for Guru-G to get back to you to: info@guruswamig.com. If you give a time frame, please make sure you are available and that you have your phone with you. Guru SwamiG will make one attempt to call you and if you are not there, the money will be refunded.
grace
Please show your respect and appreciation for the consultation given — do not interrupt GuruG or speak over her. This is being offered to aide humanity as very few Gurus will openly offer to give consulations for such a small donational offering, so please respect what is being given. The consultation is for your benefit and not hers.
OM Shanti Thank you -
[www.guruswamig.com]
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
corboy
()
Date: December 25, 2010 12:42AM
Run a Google search and put in the slot
Swami Guru G and tattoo*
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* is what is known as a wildcard It stands for any character
FYI here are two articles from The Navy Times offering info to persons considering tattoos.
Laser tattoo removal is painful option for those feeling the sting of regrethttp://www.navytimes.com/offduty/health/military_tattooremoval_laser_070521w/[/quote]
and
Finally, run a google search on how much tattoos cost
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Swami Guru G and tattoo*
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* is what is known as a wildcard It stands for any character
FYI here are two articles from The Navy Times offering info to persons considering tattoos.
Laser tattoo removal is painful option for those feeling the sting of regrethttp://www.navytimes.com/offduty/health/military_tattooremoval_laser_070521w/[/quote]
and
Finally, run a google search on how much tattoos cost
[www.google.com]
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
corboy
()
Date: December 25, 2010 12:51AM
Quote
[FairfieldLife] Confused aboiut Swami-G (was Re: Guru Dev's deathbed instructions to Maharishi)
(name omitted)Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:03:41 -0700
Namaste FFL,
Now that didn't fuck you brains up just now that I greeted the group like that , did it? How about how I just used the word Fuck?
I am cracking up here but actually Swami G has used the word fuck way more than I have, after all my up bringing is more on the east coast, whereas it seems along Swami G's journey, it was in Hawaii, ca and the west coast- they talk like that over there.
Why am I bringing this up? hmmm, I didn't know what I was going to write exactly, I hit the reply button and off I go, I just got through reading like 5 posts on this thread which I thought was about dead but it's coming back to life.
Somehow of all the comments, the flavor of what's sitting in my memory is (name omitted) things. Hard to explain my memory now because there is a real difference in it, no words to explain how it works, yet Swami G and maybe some others can understand.
To try to explain this memory thing, it is as if the silence drowns out the memory, yet what is needed is there. How is it if the memory is drowned out that I can recall all the words needed now to write?This memory being drowned out is part of the kundalini being awake, which then is why the silence is there, so it all connected.
The mind changes, actually it is not about a cosmic mind, it is more about the loosing the mind. Look at all the stuff I am saying- no cosmic mind, you loose your mind, no cosmic ego, you loose your ego, the identity of who you thought you were- gone- in Realization- no more (name omitted-Corboy.
And the truth of Kundalini, once it is switched on, it can;t be
switched off. And did I tell you? - It was aparent to me that the Om mantra is used with Swami G- if you research what Maharishi says about the Om Mantra, he says you loose all your money and everything else.
Lets see, is there anything else I can think of the scare the shit out of you before I see if anyone is interested in joining this path? hmmm I think I got most of it, you loose your mind, your identity, maybe you could really at some point have some difficult memory loss or who knows what may come up with the kundalini? I am enjoying everything but that is me, I can't tell you what would happen with you, that is up to you.
How did I get into all this anyway, where was I? hahahaha. Well, no matter what has been written by me or Swami G, this path is not what what thought it was when they get to know it, Swami G was not what you thoght she was once you get to know her, and Swami G says once realization is known, it was never what you thought it was.
Since Alex is bringing up some paling around he did with his Guru, let me think what I did- we went to see like 3 movies, one was the D'ovinci code. Right in the middle of the movie, I sunk so deep in consciosness, I wont forget that movie- after I was laughing so hard and Swami G joined right in with me. oh yea, we went to the circus in Mexico, pretty good, also in Hawaii we went to this circus sort of thing- I recognized one of the girls in the circus, awesome, she shot an arrow with her feet while standing on her hands and hit the target.
There was some tatoo shop in Honolulu, so Swami G got some extra tatoos , including an amazing one on her arm of her daughter (name omitted for privacy-Corboy). We also went to this polynisuan thing in Honolulu, also rather awesome.
We stayed in yurts on the big Island, it just happened to be clothes optional, something to add to our laughter. You would have to be out of your mind to walk around naked there because you would get your ass bitten off with mosquitoes.
Wanna hear about india? or Mexico? or LA? - We travel alot together it looks like, I will keep you posted maybe.
But down to the serious points- i was going to say I dont give a rats ass what you do because Swami G has used that expression so ofter, but in this case I do care how everyone makes out here, I hope it is well.
Just as I am writting here, this could have been Swami G writting this way. Then there are many that run to the books to see how the enlightened are supposed to be, and then run through the list- sometimes directly to Swami G- It says here that the enlightened pick their nose with the left finger- you are using the right, they do this, but you do this.
There was one professor who studdied metaphysics for years, and Swami G was just not able to meet the standards for being enlightened acording to what his books told him. Because he has the athority with his degree, the weight for what he says is supposed to be very significant.
But this is not my final letter, I am not mad, I am having a little fun here. I dont have to answer questions because if there were sincere inquiries about this path, you all know what you can find Swami G to ask- don't know what happens from there
Lets see, I went into everything under the sun in this letter. oh yes, there was a partial list of what can bring about a Kundalini awakening posted but it was labeled something else by the poster. That is not cool really because it is intentially distorting something that was published in order to help people, but then again, most of you reading this don't give a ratts ass about this path ( there I go again) and actually, as I said, with all the web sites, there are like 15 or so disciples, so you can see this really is not a very popular thing.
Well, look at that list of the shit that can happen to you, you can loose it all- you have to be nuts to enter this path or do you? Man, this certainly is a differnt sort of letter- what happened to this guy called Ron. Even that, you loose your name- he isn;t ever Ron anymore-
Ok, let me try to get serious again, last time I tried in this letter, I lost it again and went off- just one more reason to stay away from this path- look at this guy, what is it- Ronmay, Tanmay- Who is it we are confused about- Swami G or this Ronmay- Tanmay guy?
In doing all these events with Swami G, in writting this letter- in both situations, this deep state of consciousness - different than before for me, was always there. So, weather it is in meditation or activity, what ever activity, the sadana is going on. Lets see, sticks and stones may break my bones but your words dont fuck me up, steady as she goes- Was that how that rhyme went?
Do you get kicked off here for writting letters like this? Any other questions now that I have answered everything?
Y ( the one formally known as X)
PS, For your entertainment- here is a letter that someone just wrote Swami G, and she has now blocked him but he has my email address- it is from a disciple of a Guru named Adi da:
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Re: Guru Swami G
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corboy
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Date: December 29, 2010 01:22AM
From the Fairfield Life thread:
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FairfieldLife] Swami G's comments-death penalty and enlightenment for animals
Ron
Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:00:40 -0700
I found this interesting when I was visiting, it was right around the time when
this Guy in California was executed- Tooky Williams or however you spell it.
I was talking with SwamiG in the Ashram, which always means it is Satsang. I
think Satsang means association with Truth. If that is so, there is a transmission that
occurs- shaktipat-so shatipat comes out of satsang.
Anyway, I was surprised at the comments and they were interesting. I will do my
best to convey it. Swami G said there is no death, all is eternal. These people have
lost their chance this time around. Swami G said " I would even administer the chemicals" . They will get some help on the other side. They are in a hell relm and will be with a like kind.
It is not out of retribution to execute them but for those reasons above. it
balances out what they have done. Tokey Williams said he had found peace. Swami G said if this is the case, what is better- sitting in the jail cell the rest of his life? and if he
has not found this eternal peace, he will deal with the full effects of the returning Karma. Swami G said people may not like to hear this but this is the truth.
I told Swami G a comment from the late Charlie Lutes- he said they shouldnt
execute people because all that stuff will be released into the envirornment. Swami G
said that is nonsense, they take it with them.
Regarding animals, they have consciousness. It was said that Ramana Maharishi
had an enlightened cow, and I think crow and maybe other animals. Swami G said it can happen but it is rare. Swami G has 2 dogs, and they sleep in the same bedroom. She said Chico just has a dog's consciousness. However , regarding Miss Rhade, Swami G asked me- have you ever seen devotion like that?
Swami G said not all Guru's agree with this. Other comments about eatiing meet,
sex celebacy, all is covered in the satsang tapes.
Regarding the discussions at present, I found this in today;s posts, may apply:
Question:
So I guess my question is to which degree we should get involved in
> discussions about worldly matters, where the egos desire to be right
> can be very strong.
G: the world is not going to change no matter how much you argue. If
you want to see global change FIRST begin with yourself and climb out of
your own suffering. Or must you impose your suffering on others by making
them Hear what the ME wants - desires - fears - etc. ?
Regarding nabulouses comments to me:
You are disgusted with what I have to say? it is some comments- each receives
it as they like. In summary, i was in TM, left to another path, come here and tell of the
new path, and looks like point out what is in the new path that was not in the old, then
finding faults in the old where could be improved, and even stating that the things that can be improved are in place in the new path.
Big range in FFL, some are anti TM, some are pro, maybe some have never had
anything to do with TM, some were in TM, then left to one or more Guru's, etc- I think sky is the limit for what is here, I dont know exactly- havent been around for 3 years. So, depending on what your status is, this may have a big influeunce on what people have to say
I posted last year about this and saw like zero interest, this year is slightly
above that so a change is there, break out the champagne !
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Re: Guru Swami G
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Date: November 26, 2012 10:42PM
she is an Indu Avatard/youtube atard/self-deluded i mean self procclaimed
enlightened master*****. She has transcended the ego. You will not find
any posts or videos on the web of her defending herself against perceived
attacks because only ego feels the constant need to search and destroy. Nor will
you find any posts anywhere where she omits the "i" to remind us
simpletons that she has transcended us. You may, however, find numerous
posts written by someone that smacks of swami g, only they are posted
anonymously or under a different name. In those cases its ok to use the "i".
because its not really her.
enlightened master*****. She has transcended the ego. You will not find
any posts or videos on the web of her defending herself against perceived
attacks because only ego feels the constant need to search and destroy. Nor will
you find any posts anywhere where she omits the "i" to remind us
simpletons that she has transcended us. You may, however, find numerous
posts written by someone that smacks of swami g, only they are posted
anonymously or under a different name. In those cases its ok to use the "i".
because its not really her.
Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by:
micro-macro
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Date: January 07, 2013 11:15PM
And what was your legal name before you changed your name to Ganga Karmokar?
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