I have noticed Diamond Way members always use that phrase "under the spiritual guidance of", as if it's been regurgitated from somewhere. The fact remains that while the groups may be "under the spiritual guidance" of Thaye Dorje, they were founded, and are run by Ole Nydahl.
So, discussing the fraud, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, extortion, brainwashing, cult of personality and more occurring in Diamond Way groups is 'beating a dead horse'? Don't be ridiculous.
The "phrase you are refering to is right there on the karmapa main web site. You still have not produced any proof to back up your claims of abuse against a organization that has been around for close to 40 years.I would think if your "claims" were true there certainly be alot more people commenting on this forum.