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This thread might be worth your perusing, dsm, particularly page 11.

Thank you, Oerlikon, yes that does clear up any doubts I had about that part of it.

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Thank you, Oerlikon, yes that does clear up any doubts I had about that part of it.

Any doubts about what part of it? I do not understand.

Well, so much of the argument ran off into personal back-and-forth and I could see that this is a cult but there have been accusations that seemed more personal than process-driven.

I only had one twinge of doubt and that is when I saw the story of the whippings and McKay's explanation seemed reasonable and there was NO rebuttal given at that time. I had not seen the rest of this, which is not easily noticed by anyone looking at those videos.

Surely, Oerlikon, you must realize that when people read these threads and look at the videos we come to different levels of understanding? I base my opinions on evidence and I had a twinge of doubt about the whipping incident being presented the way it was, as if it is a destructive practice.

It is not a practice of the cult, from what I can see, but one isolated incident of fraudulent behavior. A staged incident. The whippings produced marks that were not injuries, any ten-year-old kid who has played noogie-burns knows that!

You have proved to me that the incident was in fact fraudulent and it stacks up with all the other evidence that McKay is a dangerous cult leader but to promote it as if he tortures people is not helping your cause.

Anyone who sees the whipping video can see that it is staged and can also sympathize with the story told by McKay, that police shrugged off the attack after hearing that it was on a member of his group. IMHO, it would be good to make sure the rest of the evidence about the original attack and how it was resolved also is seen alongside that video.

Back on topic; why we're here, let's focus on the JCs...

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