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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: February 02, 2025 12:53AM

just-googling Wrote:
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> THUMP! THUMP! THUMP!
> It's Elon, Tulsi and Trump!

Each of thee answers questions three....

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: February 02, 2025 01:02AM

The Great Cosmic Grift

In saffron robes they dance and twirl,
Preaching love—but eyeing your pearls.
Hare Krishna, Hare Scam,
Pass the plate and drop the lamb.

A guru smiles, his pockets swell,
Enlightenment? A show-and-sell.
"Chant and be happy!" they declare,
While siphoning wealth and shaving your hair.

Then enters Tulsi, poised and prim,
With slogans bright but morals dim.
A yogic warrior, sharp and shrewd,
Switching sides to match the mood.

One foot in Krishna, one in war,
Fox News darling, Hindu star.
She bends, she bows, she dodges well,
A lotus blooming straight from hell.

And oh, religion! That old con,
A priestly hand, your wallet gone.
A cosmic order, rules divine—
But only if you toe the line.

Politics and God entwine,
A dance as old as sacred wine.
One takes your mind, the other your wage—
Both just actors on a stage.

So chant, vote, kneel, obey,
Believe whatever gods may say.
But me? I’ll sit, I’ll sip, I’ll grin—
Watching the racket from within.



The Siddhascam Shuffle

Deep in the jungle of politics grim,
Lurks a guru, quiet but slim.
Siddhaswarupananda, sage so wise,
Pulling the strings with mystical guise.

A surfer, a swami, a shadowy guide,
Teaching the art of the ideological slide.
“Detach from the world!”—but hold that seat,
And keep those donors on their feet.

Tulsi enters, battle-trained,
A Krishna soldier, preordained.
One hand on scripture, one on steel,
A spiritual warrior with Capitol appeal.

Flip, flop, pivot, spin,
A holy dance to surely win.
One day left, one day right,
Tuning her stance to fit the fight.

Yet who’s behind the teleprompter?
Not just her—there’s a prompter’s prompter.
A silent man, with knowing grin,
Scripting moves from deep within.

From temple halls to D.C. stages,
The guru’s game outlasts the ages.
He whispers soft, she plays her part,
The ancient grift—a modern art.

RUN

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: February 02, 2025 05:31AM

It is good to sit back and watch the show with some popcorn without being invested in it.
When you are no longer part of the mental hospital and can see through the BS.
What a liberation. How fortunate we are.
We could be still in the prison and truly see TG as a pure devotee, feel we need to bow to her.
Feeing proud that one of us is in high places.
All that crap for some transcendental bliss and the security of an international fellowship of devotees.

Ultimately we can say that true “good” Karma and liberation is being saved from that insanity. Not being part of it. It is sad that we live in a world with such low standards. Where all people do or feel they can do, is to embrace the lesser evil. The politicians are all really good actors. I really don’t get it how SOI became all about lying and cheating in Krishna’s name. Such things are not encouraged in any scripture. Instead of chant and be happy it is lie and be happy.

I think the devotees of butler are encouraged to think they are are in a top secret cosmic mission. And that everybody is out there to get them. Everybody is against the mission of Krishna. Everybody is either a demon or materialist. They truly are tripping in their own Marvel studios. And now the superhero TG, has finally risen. They must be even more careful and secretive. If they could only save themselves it would already be a miracle. What to speak of saving the world.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: February 02, 2025 10:05PM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> We could be still in the prison and truly see TG
> as a pure devotee, feel we need to bow to her.

Pure supporter of Planned Parenthood...

> I really don’t get it how SOI became all about
> lying and cheating in Krishna’s name. Such things
> are not encouraged in any scripture. Instead of
> chant and be happy it is lie and be happy.

Sure. Who was "Ma Deva Shakti"? What happened with Gaurasundara Das Adhikari? Someone had seen him travelling by train in India years ago in bad mental condition.
Any picture of him?

> I think the devotees of butler are encouraged to
> think they are are in a top secret cosmic mission.
> And that everybody is out there to get them.
> Everybody is against the mission of Krishna.

Only their mission of Krishna is true mission of Krishna. Every other sangas are fake. The only true is mission by married paramahamsa.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: February 03, 2025 12:48AM

From Chaitanya’s time to now, this cult has been an endless parade of controversies, contradictions, fabrications, and false claims.

The only thing that gives Chaitanya Vaishnavism any real substance and weight is that it’s built on things that actually make people feel good. Singing and dancing? That’s just basic human enjoyment. Vegetarianism? A practical dietary choice with ethical appeal. The philosophy that seems deep? Almost all of it is lifted from older traditions that existed long before Krishna worship was even a thing. Without these borrowed elements, what’s left? A medieval cult wrapped around a mythology that was pieced together and sold as "eternal truth."

And let’s be real—this whole thing is basically the Marvel Universe of medieval India. A bunch of stories and characters thrown together, expanded, and reworked over time. Krishna wasn’t even a major god in the earliest texts—he was just a folk hero in the Mahabharata who got elevated through layers of added mythology. Radha? Not even mentioned in the earliest Krishna stories. Then Chaitanya Vaishnavism took it even further, claiming Chaitanya himself was Radha and Krishna combined—like some weird franchise spin-off trying to keep the brand fresh.

And just like any long-running franchise, Krishnaism keeps itself alive by borrowing and remixing older traditions. The parts that actually make sense—the philosophy, the meditation, the rituals—almost all of it came from systems that existed long before Krishna worship. Gunas, Samkhya, karma, mantras, meditation—none of this started with Krishnaism. Even the Bhagavatam, their so-called “ultimate scripture,” didn’t show up until somewhere between 900 and 1,200 CE—long after most of these ideas were already mainstream in other traditions.

This is why Krishnaism, and especially Chaitanya Vaishnavism, can feel deep—it’s not because it’s original, but because it repackages older spiritual and philosophical ideas that already had substance. The cult format just ties it all together into a belief system that makes people feel like they’re part of something ancient and profound.

So yeah, if you like the singing, dancing, and veggie lifestyle—cool. If some of the philosophy clicks, that’s fine too. Just don’t fall for the illusion that Krishnaism invented any of it. It’s all borrowed, blended, and rebranded, like a medieval reboot of older spiritual traditions.

Jai Agni Dev ki Jai

RUN

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: February 03, 2025 12:59AM

RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote:
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> A yogic warrior, sharp and shrewd,
> Switching sides to match the mood.

Thank you Planned Parenthood
take all money if I could

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: February 03, 2025 09:23AM

Devotees need a lot a lot a lotta money... all that Krishna Consciousness didn't really satiate her need for meeting a lot of money to be happy, or to make her Guru happy.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/net-worth-of-tulsi-gabbard-donald-trumps-nominee-for-director-of-national-intelligence/ar-AA1y7PXm

RUN you fools, RUN. You've just been making these idiots feeding you a line super rich.

RUN

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: February 03, 2025 09:30AM

Another good one. Read. Learn. Study. Understand. Question.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exHareKrishna/comments/1ifcwe1/open_discussions/

And, of course, RUN!

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: February 03, 2025 11:02PM

Why hasn’t there been a timely trial or a proper investigation into the sudden murder of Tulsi Gabbard’s aunt, Caroline Sinavaiana-Gabbard?

An outspoken critic of both her niece and the cult, she was randomly murdered by a "friend" with no history of violence or mental illness—right as Gabbard was shifting into full political power mode and jumping on the Trump train.

How convenient. An intelligent, vocal opponent just happens to be gone, and nearly a year later, there’s still no trial, no real investigation, and no clear reason given. And we’re supposed to believe that two elderly, educated women got into an argument that ended with one of them grabbing a hammer and committing murder? Yeah, no. That doesn’t pass the smell test. Something is way off.

And now, a controversial lawyer is already pushing an insanity defense? Nice try, diddy.

This whole thing is outlandish and highly suspicious—just like the Shri Shim boat accident.

Justice for Caroline Sinavaiana-Gabbard.

This cult has power. Maybe it’s nothing. Maybe just a coincidence.

But what a coincidence it is…

RUN.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: February 04, 2025 06:44AM


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