Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
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Truth wins
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Date: April 01, 2025 05:05AM
I think she entered politics with good intentions.
She possibly wanted to make a difference.
Then it became all about forcing herself into politics.
Power hungry butler started pushing her to be a yo-yo puppet.
It then became a game of political ambitions and ego.
Moral standards went down the toilet.
She started mingling with materialists all the time.
Forced to harden her heart and psyche more and more.
The thing that you must understand is that Trump is the political version of butler.
If I am not mistaken I think he always prided himself in being anti war.
We can say that he she has been fooled by the 2 bosses.
She does not have enough integrity and balls to step down.
She has fought too hard to get where she is now. She had to lie so much.
She will lose her prestige as a pure devotee and get shun by butler.
Her final aim is POTUS.
Maybe butler says put up with the crap. When you are POTUS, then you will be able to change the world.
Standing up for what is moral takes courage.
SoI holds you hostage even after a few years.
Imagine being born into it.
The problem with devotees is, is their a false sense of security.
They think that they can get away with pretty much everything. If the instructions come from the impure representative of God.
They are all in the greatest ocean of ignorance and bliss.
Disciples such as her, do not consider themselves a sovereign entity. They are the property of butler.
He decides every step that they must take.
I think even a AI robot must have more free will than them.
Since Butler has no moral standards, neither does she.
If tomorrow the dog handler whistles and calls her back, she will resign in an instant.
You and I both know very well that kind of power that butler has.
She possibly wanted to make a difference.
Then it became all about forcing herself into politics.
Power hungry butler started pushing her to be a yo-yo puppet.
It then became a game of political ambitions and ego.
Moral standards went down the toilet.
She started mingling with materialists all the time.
Forced to harden her heart and psyche more and more.
The thing that you must understand is that Trump is the political version of butler.
If I am not mistaken I think he always prided himself in being anti war.
We can say that he she has been fooled by the 2 bosses.
She does not have enough integrity and balls to step down.
She has fought too hard to get where she is now. She had to lie so much.
She will lose her prestige as a pure devotee and get shun by butler.
Her final aim is POTUS.
Maybe butler says put up with the crap. When you are POTUS, then you will be able to change the world.
Standing up for what is moral takes courage.
SoI holds you hostage even after a few years.
Imagine being born into it.
The problem with devotees is, is their a false sense of security.
They think that they can get away with pretty much everything. If the instructions come from the impure representative of God.
They are all in the greatest ocean of ignorance and bliss.
Disciples such as her, do not consider themselves a sovereign entity. They are the property of butler.
He decides every step that they must take.
I think even a AI robot must have more free will than them.
Since Butler has no moral standards, neither does she.
If tomorrow the dog handler whistles and calls her back, she will resign in an instant.
You and I both know very well that kind of power that butler has.
Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
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RUN_FOREST_RUN
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Date: April 01, 2025 07:32AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=329478166342424&set=a.163250852965157
Mickey-mouse spirituality...
Meanwhile, what happened to Caroline Sinavaiana-Gabbard? She was conveniently murdered right as Tusli went for a political shift power grab. The case has been stalled till August—well over a year since the tragic murder of the one single vocal intellectual opponent and family member of Tusli Gabard who could have single-handily crippled her chances at climbing aboard the Trump Train. Snuffed out. No further comments from her family (other than the initial comments by Mike Gabbard insinuating a conviction of murder before there even was one). No news update. Swept right up and with the single hope of the public forgetting about it all. we have not forgotten. The latest stall tactic? A so-called 200-page medical report that they need 6 months to review. Who the fuck has a 2000-page medical report? You know, besides Christ Butler... Figiel 100% did not murder her good friend. There is 100% something off and fishy going on with this case.
An arbitrary 2,000-page medical report? Give me a break.
Let’s stop pretending this is about justice. Caroline Sinavaiana-Gabbard—a respected scholar and the only Gabbard family member brave enough to publicly challenge Tulsi’s cult ties—is brutally murdered in Samoa. The accused? Her longtime friend, fellow poet Sia Figiel, who had no motive, no history of violence, and—let’s be clear—has never had a violent episode in her entire life.
So what’s the holdup? A supposed 2,000-page medical record? That’s not mental health protocol—that’s a smokescreen. Figiel is a coherent, internationally recognized author with zero history of violence and zero mental health issues. The claim that she snapped and beat her friend to death with a hammer and stabbed her with a knife repeatedly in some sudden, vague “episode” is not only unsubstantiated—it’s insulting.
Here’s a more rational scenario:
They were both drugged.
One to silence.
One to frame.
That would explain the brutality, the lack of motive, and Figiel’s dazed state after the fact. And guess who benefits? Tulsi Gabbard, whose political star was rising just as her most outspoken family critic, was permanently removed from the conversation. A coincidence? Sure—if you believe in fairy tales. I know SIF believes in fairy tales. The rest of us are not so dumb.
This isn’t a trial. It’s a cover-up, and it’s running on island time while the world looks away. Samoa, the world is watching. Tulsi, the world is watching. Butler, the world is watching.
Justice delayed is justice denied.
And in this case, it’s being denied on purpose.
Without a timely trial and logical conclusion, this is not going to go away as another random murder, not in Yuga. I've got plenty of old godbrothers who would have gladly performed this "devotional service" for Butler.
It does not add up until they show us how it adds up, and even then, I am sure it will smell like rotten island fish. Just like everything related to Butler.
RUN
Mickey-mouse spirituality...
Meanwhile, what happened to Caroline Sinavaiana-Gabbard? She was conveniently murdered right as Tusli went for a political shift power grab. The case has been stalled till August—well over a year since the tragic murder of the one single vocal intellectual opponent and family member of Tusli Gabard who could have single-handily crippled her chances at climbing aboard the Trump Train. Snuffed out. No further comments from her family (other than the initial comments by Mike Gabbard insinuating a conviction of murder before there even was one). No news update. Swept right up and with the single hope of the public forgetting about it all. we have not forgotten. The latest stall tactic? A so-called 200-page medical report that they need 6 months to review. Who the fuck has a 2000-page medical report? You know, besides Christ Butler... Figiel 100% did not murder her good friend. There is 100% something off and fishy going on with this case.
An arbitrary 2,000-page medical report? Give me a break.
Let’s stop pretending this is about justice. Caroline Sinavaiana-Gabbard—a respected scholar and the only Gabbard family member brave enough to publicly challenge Tulsi’s cult ties—is brutally murdered in Samoa. The accused? Her longtime friend, fellow poet Sia Figiel, who had no motive, no history of violence, and—let’s be clear—has never had a violent episode in her entire life.
So what’s the holdup? A supposed 2,000-page medical record? That’s not mental health protocol—that’s a smokescreen. Figiel is a coherent, internationally recognized author with zero history of violence and zero mental health issues. The claim that she snapped and beat her friend to death with a hammer and stabbed her with a knife repeatedly in some sudden, vague “episode” is not only unsubstantiated—it’s insulting.
Here’s a more rational scenario:
They were both drugged.
One to silence.
One to frame.
That would explain the brutality, the lack of motive, and Figiel’s dazed state after the fact. And guess who benefits? Tulsi Gabbard, whose political star was rising just as her most outspoken family critic, was permanently removed from the conversation. A coincidence? Sure—if you believe in fairy tales. I know SIF believes in fairy tales. The rest of us are not so dumb.
This isn’t a trial. It’s a cover-up, and it’s running on island time while the world looks away. Samoa, the world is watching. Tulsi, the world is watching. Butler, the world is watching.
Justice delayed is justice denied.
And in this case, it’s being denied on purpose.
Without a timely trial and logical conclusion, this is not going to go away as another random murder, not in Yuga. I've got plenty of old godbrothers who would have gladly performed this "devotional service" for Butler.
It does not add up until they show us how it adds up, and even then, I am sure it will smell like rotten island fish. Just like everything related to Butler.
RUN
Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by:
Culthusiast
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Date: April 01, 2025 09:37PM
RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote:
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> Let’s stop pretending this is about justice.
> Caroline Sinavaiana-Gabbard—a respected scholar
> and the only Gabbard family member brave enough to
> publicly challenge Tulsi’s cult ties—is brutally
> murdered in Samoa. The accused? Her longtime
> friend, fellow poet Sia Figiel, who had no motive,
> no history of violence, and—let’s be clear—has
> never had a violent episode in her entire life.
It's true. It's suspicious. If it's a setup, it means that a ruthless player behind Tulsi Gabbard's back was doing the red carpet for her. It also means that she herself, when she's no longer needed, can be removed. She's already made controversial moves. Stupid and controversial.
Truth wins Wrote:
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> I think she entered politics with good intentions.
> She possibly wanted to make a difference.
> Then it became all about forcing herself into
> politics.
> Power hungry butler started pushing her to be a
> yo-yo puppet.
> It then became a game of political ambitions and
> ego.
> Moral standards went down the toilet.
> She started mingling with materialists all the
> time.
> Forced to harden her heart and psyche more and
> more.
A Polish proverb says that: the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
She wanted to introduce a change? But how does this relate to the teachings of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami? How does this relate to the teachings of Chaitanya? How does this relate to the narrative of SIF leaders? In Poland, Madhava dasi told followers who did not know at all about SIF's political involvement (they only found out from the Mission's lawyer in the years 2010-2020, most likely 2019 because it would be difficult to hide Tulsi Gabbard's campaign) that politics is a dark forest.
Politics is a dark forest. The same Madhava dasi suddenly started promoting Tulsi Gabbard on her Facebook with other idiots from the cult.
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami told his disciples that their main activities were the distribution of prasada, the distribution of books and the public singing of mantras, i.e. kirtans. Later, however, he already spoke about the Hare Krishna chanting army, political leaders, etc. Inconsistencies. Chaitanya himself avoided politicians like the plague - even followers, as exemplified by Maharaja Prataparudra.
So wait a minute? Yes or no to politics?
And what does change mean? After all, the life of a follower is compromise. Compromises that force one to break the hard rules of tradition. Avoid passion and ignorance.
An ordinary follower is faced with the necessity of compromise. Just like with the described prepared food for offering with trace amounts of eggs.
Let's say we go to visit our aunt and she makes us tomato soup. My dear, I made you tomato soup. Although without meat, I cooked it on bones. Shit, soup on bones. And now either a compromise or a message to auntie - auntie, shove this soup up your ass.
And in politics, the rank of matters is greater. Tulsi Gabbard voted as VoteSmart shows and if we are to believe the data - against the protection of sentient fetuses and the protection of fetuses that survived abortion. Planned Parenthood alone performs 350 thousand abortions per year officially. So what % are late pregnancies? 10% is consent to 35% of thousands of abortions on sentient fetuses. So figuratively.
And what is her responsibility? In the case of meat, the Bhagavatam specifies the chain of co-responsibility. Karma is to be collected by the king for 7% of the karma of his subjects. Even if we divide it by all the senators, 35 thousand abortions is a lot of karma to divide.
Politics is a swamp..
If she treated these teachings firmly, she would not enter politics. Unless she believed, as the Bhagavad Gita says, that whatever she does because of her Krishna worship, every vile act will be forgiven her...
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> Let’s stop pretending this is about justice.
> Caroline Sinavaiana-Gabbard—a respected scholar
> and the only Gabbard family member brave enough to
> publicly challenge Tulsi’s cult ties—is brutally
> murdered in Samoa. The accused? Her longtime
> friend, fellow poet Sia Figiel, who had no motive,
> no history of violence, and—let’s be clear—has
> never had a violent episode in her entire life.
It's true. It's suspicious. If it's a setup, it means that a ruthless player behind Tulsi Gabbard's back was doing the red carpet for her. It also means that she herself, when she's no longer needed, can be removed. She's already made controversial moves. Stupid and controversial.
Truth wins Wrote:
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> I think she entered politics with good intentions.
> She possibly wanted to make a difference.
> Then it became all about forcing herself into
> politics.
> Power hungry butler started pushing her to be a
> yo-yo puppet.
> It then became a game of political ambitions and
> ego.
> Moral standards went down the toilet.
> She started mingling with materialists all the
> time.
> Forced to harden her heart and psyche more and
> more.
A Polish proverb says that: the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
She wanted to introduce a change? But how does this relate to the teachings of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami? How does this relate to the teachings of Chaitanya? How does this relate to the narrative of SIF leaders? In Poland, Madhava dasi told followers who did not know at all about SIF's political involvement (they only found out from the Mission's lawyer in the years 2010-2020, most likely 2019 because it would be difficult to hide Tulsi Gabbard's campaign) that politics is a dark forest.
Politics is a dark forest. The same Madhava dasi suddenly started promoting Tulsi Gabbard on her Facebook with other idiots from the cult.
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami told his disciples that their main activities were the distribution of prasada, the distribution of books and the public singing of mantras, i.e. kirtans. Later, however, he already spoke about the Hare Krishna chanting army, political leaders, etc. Inconsistencies. Chaitanya himself avoided politicians like the plague - even followers, as exemplified by Maharaja Prataparudra.
So wait a minute? Yes or no to politics?
And what does change mean? After all, the life of a follower is compromise. Compromises that force one to break the hard rules of tradition. Avoid passion and ignorance.
An ordinary follower is faced with the necessity of compromise. Just like with the described prepared food for offering with trace amounts of eggs.
Let's say we go to visit our aunt and she makes us tomato soup. My dear, I made you tomato soup. Although without meat, I cooked it on bones. Shit, soup on bones. And now either a compromise or a message to auntie - auntie, shove this soup up your ass.
And in politics, the rank of matters is greater. Tulsi Gabbard voted as VoteSmart shows and if we are to believe the data - against the protection of sentient fetuses and the protection of fetuses that survived abortion. Planned Parenthood alone performs 350 thousand abortions per year officially. So what % are late pregnancies? 10% is consent to 35% of thousands of abortions on sentient fetuses. So figuratively.
And what is her responsibility? In the case of meat, the Bhagavatam specifies the chain of co-responsibility. Karma is to be collected by the king for 7% of the karma of his subjects. Even if we divide it by all the senators, 35 thousand abortions is a lot of karma to divide.
Politics is a swamp..
If she treated these teachings firmly, she would not enter politics. Unless she believed, as the Bhagavad Gita says, that whatever she does because of her Krishna worship, every vile act will be forgiven her...
Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
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Truth wins
()
Date: April 02, 2025 04:19AM
That murder story is really sad and strange.
I wonder how she stays in touch with butler. It must be more secretive that keeping their war plans covered.
How pathetic that she is with a regime who stands behind the genocide of one of the most faithful people on the planet.
Krishna is Allah? How Pleasing!
For sure even if they had good intentions, they should have gotten the memo that this is not going to weigh the planned it.
It was not turning me into the fairytale Devotie savior of the world scenario.
It just turned into a huge lying show and yo-yo politics.
Sometimes determination does not pay off. You know how devotees are supposed to be determined when it comes to their spiritual life.
They have used that same determination in order to succeed when it comes to the political career.
An absolute waste of determination.
It really shows that they are not able to hear the true divine guidance in their hearts.
They should have taken all the obstacles as a sign to retire. But they took it as a challenge to fight this so-called demons.
The powers they consider divine, do not appear to you and tell you what to do. It is up to you to decipher reality and events.
Sister guru is not a pure channel, they are in very big deep trouble.
I wonder how she stays in touch with butler. It must be more secretive that keeping their war plans covered.
How pathetic that she is with a regime who stands behind the genocide of one of the most faithful people on the planet.
Krishna is Allah? How Pleasing!
For sure even if they had good intentions, they should have gotten the memo that this is not going to weigh the planned it.
It was not turning me into the fairytale Devotie savior of the world scenario.
It just turned into a huge lying show and yo-yo politics.
Sometimes determination does not pay off. You know how devotees are supposed to be determined when it comes to their spiritual life.
They have used that same determination in order to succeed when it comes to the political career.
An absolute waste of determination.
It really shows that they are not able to hear the true divine guidance in their hearts.
They should have taken all the obstacles as a sign to retire. But they took it as a challenge to fight this so-called demons.
The powers they consider divine, do not appear to you and tell you what to do. It is up to you to decipher reality and events.
Sister guru is not a pure channel, they are in very big deep trouble.
Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by:
just-googling
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Date: April 02, 2025 08:27AM
Just for some comic relief...more rhyming lines:
TULSI'S DILEMMA
Make friends with Putin, go visit Assad
Accept toenail clippings as maha-prasad?
We must bomb Iran, must bomb Yemen
Innocent folks killed again, again and again?
She figured being a politician would be a hoot
Will she now support the bombing of Beirut?
Hard working folks cannot afford their rent
Some live on the street and sleep in a tent
Vote Independents for Godly Government!
TULSI'S DILEMMA
Make friends with Putin, go visit Assad
Accept toenail clippings as maha-prasad?
We must bomb Iran, must bomb Yemen
Innocent folks killed again, again and again?
She figured being a politician would be a hoot
Will she now support the bombing of Beirut?
Hard working folks cannot afford their rent
Some live on the street and sleep in a tent
Vote Independents for Godly Government!
Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
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RUN_FOREST_RUN
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Date: April 02, 2025 10:03PM
Oh that's good!
RUN
RUN
Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by:
Truth wins
()
Date: April 03, 2025 05:18PM
The Yo-yo politics of TG covered in 8 minutes.
[m.youtube.com]
That alone will scare you to be under the spiritual guidance of butler.
SoI devotees have only one thing going for them: The little bliss crack.
Asides from that, these people are so lost.
Either taking instructions from him directly or his minions such as Midget.
Enjoy your stay at the mental hospital!
[m.youtube.com]
That alone will scare you to be under the spiritual guidance of butler.
SoI devotees have only one thing going for them: The little bliss crack.
Asides from that, these people are so lost.
Either taking instructions from him directly or his minions such as Midget.
Enjoy your stay at the mental hospital!
Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by:
Culthusiast
()
Date: April 03, 2025 07:36PM
just-googling Wrote:
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> Hard working folks cannot afford their rent
> Some live on the street and sleep in a tent
> Vote Independents for Godly Government!
All my faith is a disease
And its source is Butler Chris
Lying, bombing, more to tell
On the shortest path to hell
Truth wins Wrote:
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> The Yo-yo politics of TG covered in 8 minutes.
>
> [m.youtube.com]
Very good.
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> Hard working folks cannot afford their rent
> Some live on the street and sleep in a tent
> Vote Independents for Godly Government!
All my faith is a disease
And its source is Butler Chris
Lying, bombing, more to tell
On the shortest path to hell
Truth wins Wrote:
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> The Yo-yo politics of TG covered in 8 minutes.
>
> [m.youtube.com]
Very good.
Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by:
Truth wins
()
Date: April 06, 2025 09:58PM
The only way Tulsi can callous her heart, is the focus on the verses of scripture such as you should not lament for the dead nor the living.
At one point humans become characters in a video game and we’re here to pay off karma.
And why cry since the soul is absolutely indestructible and eternal.
Let us bomb them. Yamaraja will sort out the fate of the suckers on the other side.
If butler gets a cold, we must cry and chant 1000000 rounds a day.
Same goes with his minions.
Other than that, everybody else is disposable.
Just kill the bodies. Who cares.
Krishna is in control ultimately.
The video game is not in your hands. Relax people. Surrender. Do not fear!
At one point humans become characters in a video game and we’re here to pay off karma.
And why cry since the soul is absolutely indestructible and eternal.
Let us bomb them. Yamaraja will sort out the fate of the suckers on the other side.
If butler gets a cold, we must cry and chant 1000000 rounds a day.
Same goes with his minions.
Other than that, everybody else is disposable.
Just kill the bodies. Who cares.
Krishna is in control ultimately.
The video game is not in your hands. Relax people. Surrender. Do not fear!
Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
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RUN_FOREST_RUN
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Date: April 13, 2025 07:27AM
Always so glad to know we live in a secular world where this cult can't do a damn thing about this Wikipedia entry:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_of_Identity_Foundation
And that in a moment one can find out exactly where and how their indian secterian God was created, when the radha goddess was added to the mix, and when the only vaishnav sect in Bengal claimed thier epileptic leader was god.
Cult on ye sheep, cult on...
RUN
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_of_Identity_Foundation
And that in a moment one can find out exactly where and how their indian secterian God was created, when the radha goddess was added to the mix, and when the only vaishnav sect in Bengal claimed thier epileptic leader was god.
Cult on ye sheep, cult on...
RUN
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