I’ve been very vocal on this forum & this topic for some time and have intimated more than once that at some point if I was challenged I would begin to provide digital evidence of what I was asserting. I feel that it will be a fitting end to the year, and start to the coming one to begin to do this now.
It’s understandable that the idea of attacking me would somehow seem to negate both anything I’ve said, and somehow reflect on Traveller99 & Heather. The first point is that I neither represent them, nor they me. The second point is that I would like to caution anyone who is saying things about me to be prepared to be outed publicly by contextual screenshots. ‘Context’ being a key word here. I maintain all along I never did what was claimed I had, and I can prove that.
I am at the stage now, where I would be willing to publicly show screenshots to support that the source of what was said about me was not true. Indeed, there was an initial piece wrote about me ( I was sent a copy in secret), gave to James Swartz without permission from the author, which Swartz jumped on without due diligence.
The piece that forms the thrust of what has been said about me on Shiningworld and by trolls, is substantially invalidated by my contextual screenshots. In doing so I would also publicly show details of person’s involved. It is proper to counter my name being associated with lies, to their names been associated with attempts to character assassinate a person. Simply because I was unable to pay a loan when they wanted. Context is everything and it’s been genuinely amusing to see assertions being made about me with context absent. It’s like a... helloooooo, why did I report the whole thing to the police so quickly? And why has no action being taking by either the Police or Facebook in regard to me?
I wanted to place this open invitation to the trolls that will no doubt be reading this. Though this article isn’t to be about the person’s who began their vindictive failed campaign against me, nor is it about the groupie trolls that represent the Jimmy Saville of the spiritual world. This piece will be about JS himself. Do you notice what I just did? ;).
This will be a comprehensive read, and what follows are personal email conversations between myself and James & Isabella Swartz. I give my word that what I write is verbatim. For ease of reading I shall separate some of this into sections, and what is wrote will be in a liner timeline fashion, however I will interject with some comments that may be in regard to current events. Please excuse grammar in the emails, I have simply copy/pasted as is.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Shiningworld Cult Controls Personal Relationships
On Friday, 13th July, 2018 at 8.58pm I received an email from James Swartz, some of this is enclosed:
: (Name withheld) forwarded me the email about flirting, I agree... I don’t think it’s appropriate at all. It gives the wrong impression. We are serious people. Not looking for social contact. We form relationships in Vedanta but it’s incidental. If you want to meet spiritual people, I suggest you find another site... If you keep it up, I’ll ask (name withheld) to revoke your privileges. No money, no women. If you want a girlfriend, don’t use the FB group to get one. I don’t think you understand the sanctity of the tradition.
: As I tried to explain to (name withheld) the lady & I were already in close personal contact. We both agreed we did not want a relationship. However, it is like we cannot help it. The situation is that now we are in a full blown relationship and we have become very close.
The comment was one sentence in jest. It was a joke, and wasn't a chat up line as we were already forming that anyhow. I am being misrepresented here. And am happy to get explaining what has really been going on, that is cool. I have not, and do not approach people in Shiningworld in a personal capacity. Or indeed any other person online. This is being took back to front.
The lady and I are very serious, and we are to spend time together within weeks. And we are in fact planning our lives together. You and Sundari just knew from the start (about yourselves wanting to be together – Edit: 31/12/2020). There is no reason why me and the other lady in question should not. It is entirely possible we could spend our lives together. That isn’t wrong.
You think I have been using the Fb group to get a girlfriend. I respect you completely. But that is in accurate. It just happens that the lady in question and I met through Vedanta. But we have personal lives , and we were using our personal lives to create a relationship.
Sat 14th July 2018:
It is probably best that you drop out of ShiningWorld and start out on your own and build up your teaching step by step, one mind at a time, not only by precept but by example. Let your students see how you live so they can model their lives on yours.
Enlightenment sickness is a natural part of the spiritual path but you need to know the symptoms and treat it effectively or you are in for a lot of unpleasantness.
Regarding love. Yes I have had problems with samsaric relationships. However, as I pointed out, the lady and I were coming together in private on Facebook. And Facebook is also a platform for private lives.It just so happened we made a flirtatious joke each in the group. That was wrong yes, but I was not picking anyone up. Or approaching others. I challenge anyone saying otherwise to provide some evidence.
I dont know what you think has been happening, but we are actually talking about one sentence, seven words, over two weeks ago. Never happened before, never happened since. There was no need to stop, for as soon as the comment was made it was stopped of its own accord. Notwithstanding at least six members appreciated a bit of levity in the group. They outwardly showed it. not that that excuses my one error of judgment.
The truth is, both myself and the lady are head over heels with one another. If you and Sundari can have it right away, why can we not feel the same also? We are in the process of planning to even live together, a little off yes, but it is that serious. We feel we are in love. And you asked me to stop the behaviour. Which I took to asking me to stop the relationship I am in. I was put in an impossible position. I had to say no to you . Knowing I would be told to leave Shiningworld.
James, it is an actual human right, under the human rights act, to be able to have a relationship. Shiningworld satsangs are rife with this being okay. I am new to vedanta yes. But I can't appreciate how you can come from Swami Chinmaya and have relationships if you choose, and eventually marry Sundari, yet I am not allowed that same freedom of choice. What is the issue if one is in love with someone?
This is fact in a way mirrors you and Sundari...
You rightly tell me that I still dont know what Vedanta is about. Yet I am fired for falling in love with a lady, and us making a flirtatious joke in the group. One joke. Is this not extreme Ramiji?
If i have acted improper it has been from a position of not knowing the rules. The relationship you have with Sundari has created confusion. As I would naturally like to follow the example of my teachers. Notwithstanding, this one comment weeks ago, was improper. I learned my lesson, And it has never been done before nor would again in group or SW stuff. In fact, both myself and my girlfriend spoke at length and agreed to keep our relationship private. I felt, and do feel, that two people in love, could do this, and remain in Shiningworld.
: I accept that you did your flirting, courting or whatever it is off the site. In fact, I wish you well. I hope that you can both love each other in a pure way.
Anyway, I’m glad you wrote back and defended yourself. Most people are too afraid of me to stand up and say what they think... So as far as I am concerned you can post on the site and continue as before.
As can be saw, there is without doubt clear double standards and hypocrisy. The leader of a spiritual group is permitted to form a relationship with one of his own students. Yet I was initially being prevented from being in a relationship with a fellow student, under threats of being expelled from staff and told to leave Shiningworld. It is only when I stood up for myself that it a clear that I was being treated wrongly.
James Swartz also spoke about me during the three month Carbondale Gita course. He referred to me twice. One was that it is not understood how I can be in the tradition of Vedanta, and have had the karma that I have had. The other comment was in reference to the above event, and in that regard he said on video that I challenged him, and pulled it off.
The daggers where out for me however and the main person was Isabella Swartz. Anyone who is brave enough to challenge the Swartz’ will sooner or later be took down, as happened with me, and the most recent teacher.
Can I refer everyone who reads this to the satsangs that were published about me recently? In one of them James Swartz tells lies to a former student of mine turned kindergarten troll. The satsangs claim that the Swartz’ turned their back on me because I was using Vedanta to get sex with women. Dis-Illusioned, another former student of Shiningworld, and myself both verify that what James Swartz has published recently about this is simply lies. You have just read the emails regarding the one person who I had any kind of anything with in Shininworld. A loving relationship, and not the sordid lies that Swartz told his students about me a couple of months ago. This revealing of what really was going with me and a lady, proves that that James Swartz lied about my conduct in regard to sex and Vedanta back then. We were together a for over a year. I was never with anyone else, not even a wink at anyone else.
You’ll see however, a very important term that James Swartz introduces about me: ‘Enlightenment Sickness’. Please remember this. The next email is between James and I, and in it, I am challenging a massive 23 page e-satsang that Isabella Swartz had wrote about me, to character assassinate me. Merely days later.
The background is that James wanted a Facebook group, Isabella did not. The assertions made about me in regard to my relationship then, was enough to use me as a scapegoat. I will now show the inaccurate, and simply daft teachings they have. And, show the sinister nature of what they will do to mess with your life.
Additionally although I can’t reveal the verbatim conversations that I have had, James Swartz has a history of trying to control people in relationships. He tried to do this to one of my former students also. A former Shiningworld member. James threatened to expel this person from Shiningworld unless they stop their relationship. Which was a perfectly legal relationship, by the way. Even more alarming, the student was publicly humiliated for months in classes, in front of one another, and other students. The student sat there and took it, because they thought a teacher would do that. I went at great lengths to show them this isn’t allowed in traditional vedanta
It’s really interesting James Swartz said to me; no money, no women. While being married to one of his own students. In regard to the ‘no money’ comment, that’s rich coming from him. Since I began teaching Vedanta I have only accepted money on two occasions, by one person, for teaching Vedanta. And, this is with me teaching courses, and also teaching one to one, in which i regularly would stay up at night to video call students for free.
Indeed, one of the trolls banned on here is a former student of mine, who was here spouting about money. I never received any money for teaching from him, even though I would stay up at 1am to give him satsang, as he was in the land of the rising sun (yes, I know who you are ;) ). I have gave this dedication to students from USA, Canada, India, Indonesia, Australia & Japan for two years now. And to date, I still do not take one penny from them even though I live in poverty (which I prefer to be honest, lol). While the trolls come on here and represent James Swartz who is sitting in his cosy Spanish love nest, on the backs of Shiningworld members. Swartz’ who won’t take one skype call without prior donation, being defended by my former student in regard to attacking me over money, when I actually gave him free video calls for 18 months. Yes, this is the twilight zone...
Yes, I want to publicly share two years of my bank statements if James & Isabella Swartz share two years of theirs. They won’t do this, and I want them to know that I know why also. Let’s see what’s really going on with this money thing in both myself and them.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Swartz’ Lie to Shiningworld Members About Other Members
This email was sent on: 17th July, 2018, a mere three days after I ‘won’ the right to be in love and remain a Shiningworld staff member:
Can I mention something please? It is concerns I have regarding the latest email exchanged between Sundari and I. Sundari had said she intends to post our exchange online, complete emails and names intact.
What I personally am concerned about is discrepancies and inaccuracies in what Sundari was portraying I, and my life is like. I feel that it may appear that I am some kind of complete train wreck. Whilst it is common knowledge I have had challenges, and prarabdha Karma for sure, my life is most certainly fair better than it was..
(Edit: 31/12/2020) I included Isabella’s comments in this reply to James)
: I will be honest with you, I was always concerned about you being appointed a moderator on our social media because of your jiva karma and conditioning.
Me to James
: As far as I can recall, Sundari had always been positive to me about me joining the social media part.
: It went to your head and you became a pain in the ass to (name withheld), enlightenment sickness took hold.
Me to James
: (Name Withheld) has told me that he never did say or feel I became a pain in the ass to him. I approached him about this, out of respect, as he never intimated this to me at any other time. Sundari even recently told me we work well together as a team.
About enlightenment sickness. That can happen to anyone, and it has. But I feel the way the sentence is wrote implies that somehow enlightenment sickness is a mark against me. The first part says it went to my head. Second I was a pain in the ass... See, what I am saying? :) .
I have emails from Sundari, where she says in response to me... that I should not worry. My self-honesty is my protection. And dont be hard on myself. And I am doing just fine.
wrote: Your life karma seemed to crash and burn just as it has before, losing your job, relationship, car, police after you, looming prison sentence, etc. You say all that has changed now, but sorry - I don;t mean to put you down at all, but I have heard that before, many times.
Me to James
: Is it not true that there are all kinds of reasons why Karma plays out as it does? And is not necessarily a sign of ones life now?
The part about losing my job and car. My car broke down, I could not afford to get it fixed. So I lost my job as a delivery driver.
The police were not after me. That sounds as if i was on the run or something.
(there was never a looming prison sentence either, she lied about that – Edit: 31/12/2020)
: As for comparing your situation with (my then girlfreind) with me and Ramji, you are way off the mark.
Me to James"
: What I did was compare the freedom to choose. That is all. Never did I imply, non-dual relationship. I did imply that like you two fell in love, so have we. and that is completely reasonable to suggest.
I’m going to leave the email disclosure at this, for the moment. Though there is much more to reveal. The reason why I want to stop here in this article is because we can see there’s been a move form the failure to make me look bad for being in a relationship, to invalidating me in regard to having ‘enlightenment sickness’.
I’m not entirely sure of the traditional view on this term, ‘enlightenment sickness’, as we be very precise in actual Vedanta. However, generally this term means that the person thinks they are enlightened, when they are not. Generally a person who says they’re enlightened is not actually. It’s a subtle point. Perhaps you will recall in my exchange with RV, he tried to get me to claim if I was jnani, an enlightened person. To which I told him to stop being silly. Kindergarten tactics.
You will also see that this has recently been done in regard to attacking the latest teacher to be expelled from Shiningworld. Enlightenment Sickness was mentioned in Isabella’s e-satsang in which she mentioned him.
We can see from the date above that this was being said to me in July 2018. I was admin of their Facebook group. After their failed first attempt to discredit me, they then began to tell people that I had enlightenment sickness, and I was acting improper in ways in the Facebook group. The truth is, that I was trying to cultivate a community atmosphere there, which is what sangha is. However, I was being accused by them of trying to take it for my own. Something that RV also accused me of on here.
When the Swartz’ say something Shiningworld members automatically believe it without thinking. I cast no blame, for I was the same. I lost a lot of friends when it became obvious that I was out of favour with the Swartz’. I also lost credibility in their version of whatever Vedanta is, because I Was labelled as having enlightenment sickness, wrongly thinking that I'm enlightened. This is what they were telling my friends.
The only people I had in my life was Shiningworld, I had no-one else. And while this is being told to you with no emotion at all, my heart is still racing as I type because it’s time I used their own words as evidence against them to show they publicly told lies about me.
I lost so many friends because of what they said about me, and to this day, I am a pariah among many. The brainwashing is so extreme that the members disregard that the head ashram in India has gave me permission to teach in their name. As saw by the ludicrous behaviour of RV on here. They will not ever see me as a teacher, simply because of that attack on my credibility by the Swartz’.
It’’s important to stress without a doubt that I don’t care about this at all. I don’t need validation. My lineage has given me permission, to date from three Swami now (including Swami that RV said are not relevant to me. I’ve written permission from both of those Swami to teach. The correct teachings mean I don’t care about money, or power though. It is important however, to lay everything out in their Machiavellian abuse of students in order to allow the public to be better informed.
The problem that the Swartz’ have, is that in saying to their students in Shiningworld in July 2018 that I am wrongly thinking I am enlightened, they failed to let their students know why I felt this...
In the summer of 2015, I received a handwritten letter from James Swartz. In it he tells me:
“It’s safe to say that you're at the stage of moksha (enlightenment).”
In February of 2016 I make reference to this in a handwritten letter to both of the Swartz’.
This was included in a major e-satsang that Sundari created on September 17th 2016, and she named it: ‘No Prison For The Self’. Shiningworld has since removed both it, and any other e-satsang they ever wrote praising me. However, I learned from the way they publicly abused Daniel Band (another former teacher), and I downloaded copies of everything they ever wrote about me. As well as many other things.
Why are the letters to me important? The letters’ show that the Swartz’ regarded me as enlightened three years prior
to when they character assassinated me as having enlightenment sickness. You do not wrongly
think you are enlightened if your Guru has already
stated numerous times that you are
enlightened, lmao. The enlightened person cannot have enlightenment sickness. And simply because they no longer liked me is no validation, nor a moral reason to publicly try to humiliate me, and to manipulate the only friends I had into turning their backs on me.
This proves that they also lied about me when they said I had enlightenment sickness. I was gaslight publicly, and ostracised from the Shiningworld community.
This is what they will do to you, if you do not accept their controls on your private life. We’ve seen it again recently, in that a former Vedanta teacher isn’t allowed to have his own political views. This topic is in the correct place, in the correct forum. Thank you for giving the abused students of Shiningworld a voice. Be brave, and come forward...
If anyone wants, please contact me for un-redacted exact copies of what I have shared here.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2020 05:52PM by earthquake.