Re: James Swartz—What is the Truth?
Date: May 14, 2019 06:21PM
> I was very disappointed to find a community of
> people in the Neo-Advaita scene who seemed to be
> very interested in spiritual development simply as
> a means to escape hardship and/or big-note
> themselves as being 'above' this earthly world.
> I suppose that is very judgmental of me, but there
> you have it- that is all I have found, personally.
> Then I discovered something even worse- which was
> cultic abuse in the Neo-Advaita and
> non-duality scene, on a pretty big scale.
> Oh well.
> At least as a result of this forum, people are
> becoming more aware.
This is a superb point. I'm sorry everyone if I appear to keep talking Vedanta, yet there is no other way I can illustrate that these guys are acting contrary to everything they purport to be. We will beat them at their own game here.
Your first paragraph I have quoted is exactly symptomatic of the neo scene. There are two aspect of moksha (enlightenment). One is knowing you are Brahman. This is whhat JS claims as self-realization. He also says this is moksha. Which is isn't. Tradtional Vedanta says there is no such thing as self-realization. It is here that neo's generally will stop, and this creates problems.
The reason why it creates problems is that, ok, you know you are Brahman, but so what? that has to mean something to life. JS does then mention actualuization. And then tripti. Perfect satisfaction.
There is however, only assimilation, and only one moksha. No grades. Also, simply because one is liberated (Jnani/Enlightened) does not in any way mean that stuff wont come up for them to resolve. There is no 'fully cooked' thing. And this is a humbling concept.
Assimilation takes as long as it takes, but should one try to teach early, or go it alone too soon, there can be issues. One is that the highly sattvic states of savilkalpa samadhi interwined with not-assimilated, therefore merely academic knowledge makes one being the most troublesome of things = Spiritual By-passing. And this can be very dangerous.
The tradtion has safeguards in place. In that in the second stage of sadhana, which is called manana, the student may teach, but it is generally supervised. This is also where the appropriate relationship between teacher and student is also meant to protect the process. The teacher remains impersonal, so the student does not have the avenue to challenge (at this point) as they would only be challenging scripture. However, should the boundaries be crossed, the student then may see the person in the teacher, and that may entice the student to elevate themselves to the level of thinking they know best. And since they are untrained, still going through the process deep samskaras can cause problesm.
I'm speaking here about totally appropriate teaching. Of course, great care should be took in things being morally right. Now that i mention that, no Vedanta teacher should be ego-busting. I know for a fact JS and his cronies do this. It is widespread in Shiningworld, and it has left many traumatized. Many have came to me and told me this. I can't even begin to describe how widespread this is.
These problems come from having only the first aspect of enlightenment, alongside a sattvic buzz. So is ain't enlightenemnt. Bascially if the person is not humble, if they think they are doing something special, and that they are special or superior, if they lack compassion and empathy, if they dont adhere to what is morally and legally right, then they aint what they say.
Scripture does say there can be slight gray areas, but one gets their moral compass from what society expects. Generally morality and law is based on Dharma. It's a good yard stick. Teachers cannot hide behind scripture. For, Isvara has provided the law as a protector of dharma. So anything illegal, or even morally wrong, is adharmic.
It's appropriate to have judegments though Sahara71 isnt it? One has to. If we dont listen to our inner voice, then what hope does humanity have for growth?
All it takes is one voice, or a collection of voices such as this forum, such as this, to tip the balance.
Shiningworld most certainly tick 7 out of ten hallmarks of a cult. And possibly eight. Any group that tries to control and manipulate people ongoing, creates a palpable atmosphere of fear, ostrcises any person who sticks up for themseleves, withholds spiritual teaching as punishments, interferes considerably in students lives, has sex between teachers and students. I mean, please, the world simply must get real.
And it IS getting real. As far as Shiningworld is concerned, they are likely on their way out. Sure they will market hype, but they operate out of fear, no matter what they say. And fear, well it is weak. and that is where we have them by the nuts. Because the truth, will out, and we have dharma on our side. More and more people are leaving shiningworld all the time.
It's at the tipping point now. Gathering momentum.