Okay - this will be something of a long response. I have no idea who "morco" is and the mods will confirm that our IP addresses are completely different.
Firstly, there are NO OTHER WOMEN making such allegations against my husband. Kath is making these up to suit her own purposes.
My husband has never even had sex (oral, anal or vaginal) with Kath or her lesbian lover and the supposed "rape" occured when she, her girlfriend and her male sexual partner tried to seduce us and it when wrong. These are the FACTS of that evening.
A group of 27 people went on a camp together in a small campsite. The tents are about 3 - 4 feet away from each other due to the small size. Over the course of the evening there was much drinking, and Kath and Zaflon (who at the time was Kath's sexual male partner) kept turning the conversation to sex. Kath asked the men to expose themselves, only Zaflon and one other male did. Kath immediately leapt up and started performing oral sex on the other male (who was shocked into silence!) in front of everybody. Being very British everybody simply ignored her behaviour. Kath then spent the next hour trying to get my husband to expose himself by trying to undo his trousers. She then proceeded to perform a very explicit sexual show with her lesbian lover one foot in front of my husband. He ignored her and moved away. At the same time Zaflon kept stroking my thigh and telling me how attractive I was. I got up and went to bed and my husband went to the toilet, also intending to come back to bed. I will also add that during the course of the evening Kath and her lesbian lover were spiking my husbands drink with vodka. After I had lain in bed for less than three minutes I got up and went to get my husband as I wanted to watch the sunrise. My husband was crawling backwards out of Kath's tent doing up his trouser zip as Kath had deliberately told him I had gone back to their tent in order to take him back - perhaps she was hoping I would follow? She was with her lesbian lover all this time so my husband was with two women who were trying to get him and myself into bed. My husband then went straight to sleep in our own tent - they had managed to get so much vodka into him he was barely able to walk - there is no way he could have walked to their tent unless the two girls were supporting him. So Kath and her lesbian lover claimed my husband raped both of them in less than three minutes, in a tent, with someone awake and sober in the tent directly next door to theirs, when in fact, the person in the tent next to them was kept awake ALL NIGHT by Kath, her lesbian lover and her male sexual partner having very noisy sex and laughing all night until 6.30 a.m. in the morning. My husband and I left the camp at 8.00 a.m. the next morning as I was unhappy with the events that had occurred. Kath, Barry and her lesbian lover stayed at the camp all day. Kath was laughing loudly all day and wearing a very short miniskirt with no knickers - is this the behaviour of someone who has just been raped? When my husband and myself returned at 5.30 p.m. that evening Kath immediately came over to me in front of witnesses and said to me (exact words) "I'm really sorry babe, but nothing happened, honest." I told her to go away and that I didn't wish to speak to someone like her. She then went straight over to her tent, and she and her lesbian lover and her male sexual partner packed their tent and went home. A week later she went to the police claiming rape and that she had DNA evidence of my partner's semen on her sleeping bag. The police carried out DNA testing and found the semen on her sleeping bag was not my partners. As I presume that the police would also have taken DNA samples from her other two lovers, if it was not theirs then the question remains whose was it? When my partner and I gave our side of the story to the police (who take all such allegations seriously), they realised that Kath was telling lies, and randomly chose four other people who had attended the camp (including the person who was in the tent next to theirs) to give their version of events too. The 8 month period was because this case was very low priority as far as the police were concerned. Indeed, no one amongst the other people of the camp can or will back up the allegations of rape because they are simply not true.
The reason Kath and Barry are disliked and hounded off internet forums is because of their behaviour and the contempt they are held in by the pagan community.
It transpires that this is not the first time that Kath has made false allegations - people who know her outside paganism have reported to me that she has done this kind of thing before. Kath has also attacked other leading members of the pagan community with horrendous allegations, when they do not wish to be associated with her.
As for the allegations of attracting vulnerable women. Zaflon is an unqualified hypnotherapist yet gave Kath and her lesbian lover, both of whom suffer with [b:6beaba06c2]severe[/b:6beaba06c2] mental illness, "hypnotherapy and counselling for their trauma". That to me, sounds rather cultish.
Which brings me to the other question: "Is the Pagan Association" a cult? The answer to that has to be a resounding no.
What are our terms of membership? You pay £5.00 (approx $9.00) per year for 7 copies of our newsletter and a reduced price private access to Stonehenge. Do you have to be a member to get the newsletter? No - you can buy it for 50p (about $1) at our meetings, which are held in various pubs throughout the West Midlands County of the UK. The accounts are fully transparent, and able to be viewed at any time by paid up members and upon reasonable request by non-members. Do you have to be a member to attend any of our meetings? Again, no - non members are welcome, as are those who are members of other pagan organisations. Do we harrass ex-members? Again the answer is no - some people let their membership lapse, although the trip to Stonehenge (being members only) usually acts as a reminder for people to renew. (There is a small saving of £1.00 to be made by paying for membership.) Certainly Martin, my husband is charming and charismatic, and that is why he is so popular. He certainly has no shortage of ladies competing for his attentions and I get many requests from women to borrow him to take them shopping or out to dinner. In fact one of the women who Tennnecks is saying claimed sexual persuasion actively chased my husband (whilst he was single) and still speaks to him regularly - they remained friends when they both found partners. Of course popularity and charisma will invoke jealousy and bitterness in those whose minds are twisted and warped.
The only reason that various postings and claims made by Kath and Barry have been removed from forums is because in the United Kingdom it is illegal to make claims that someone is a criminal. It is defamation of character and libellous to claim that someone is guilty of a sexual crime when they are not. Surely it is the actions of a reasonable person to want such claims removed? How would people feel if those claims were being made about them?
Can I also correct the terminology? Kath says women have "pressed charges". In criminal acts, charges are pressed by the Crown Prosecution Service and the Police. Individuals cannot "press charges". Therefore it is incorrect to claim that women have "pressed charges". They have made allegations which have been found by the police to be false and malicious. No charges have been pressed by anybody.
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taking it seriously, on concluding their investigations said to me,
'we really thought we'd got him.'
Which shows the investigating officers opinion.
Funny - they said to us that they get annoyed by women wasting their time as it makes it so much harder for the genuine victims of rape. They also apologised for all the stress that they had had to put us through by them having to follow set procedures. The emotion you raised in one of them was loathing and disgust. My personal opinion is that women who make such false allegations are guilty of a crime worse than rape, because they are attacking the genuine victims of rape by making it so much harder for the genuine voices to be heard. Amongst our friends, it is the victims of rape who are the ones who hate Kath the most because they understand fully what crime she is guilty of.
We have been very open within the pagan community about the allegations that have been made, and the pagan community has been very supportive of myself, Martin and the Pagan Association.
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And I would suggest that morco2006 is the Barren-mess herself doing what she does best?
As I have said, I have no idea who morco is - this thread was only brought to our attention earlier this week. May I also add that inventing the nickname "Barren-mess" for a woman whom you know to be going through fertility treatment, shows exactly the kind of person you are and why decent people and pagans don't want you as part of their community.
You are pathetic and sad.
So do you know what the Pagan Association is going to do? We're going to keep doing what we're good at. Acting as a networking organisation for pagans, running pub moots (meetings), organising open events and rituals, organising camps and discos, visiting pagans from other parts of the country and the world, and having a good time doing it. We'll leave the bitter, twisted and sick individuals to drown in their own bile. They only dislike each other slightly less than they dislike the Pagan Association!
Thank you for your time reading this. Perhaps you will allow these forums to do the work they are supposed to do - not as an outlet for the loathsome fantasies of sick minds. Personally, I have better things to do.
Rhiannon Biddulph