Below is a comment from the Guruphiliac blog, made by a senior player in the Byron Katie system, who has many websites about Byron Katie. She appears to be a very active professional Facilitator for Byron Katie.
It was made from her Blogger account so it's her, and is reproduced below for convenience of analysis, as well as in case its ordered taken down by a certain Goddess. Its very revealing.
She begins by announcing she is "long-time reader and fan of Guruphiliac". Interesting, not sure if Jody Guruphiliac is going to appreciate another Byron Katire personal endorsement! What is telling, is she is a fan of Guruphiliac, which is a blog which literally tears Gurus a new one, with the most histrionic and vicious language possible as its style of satire and attack. Yet her tender eyes are too sweet to see the detailed technical concerns being raised by those she may have met and even taught? Does that make logical sense?
Then Carol moves to the typical Ad Hominem of the critics of Katie, to try and deflect from the issues, of course. That is standard. She refuses to deal with or answer the serious questions being made, and just denies they exist. See how it works?
She tells you, you can "take your toys home at the end", but you are happier leaving them? What is she talking about? $100,000 in jewellery, or you own "stories". More with the "stories", every LGAT has to sell their stories...
She says, "I am not my story". Does she not realize that is false? If anything, she is story of trying to not be her story! More loaded language. Sorry Carol L. Skolnick and Byron Katie, you are making a false claim. Human's actually ARE their stories, that appears to be how the brain "stores" information. How can you not have a story? Cut the brain out with a knife? Its total nonsense. BK and CArol just want them to switch to THEIR story!
She says we are not supposed to "get" anything other than "clarity". Again, this is just semantic games. Its like saying..."I desperately want to be non-attached". How can she WANT to NOT GET? Its a mind-screw folks, very basic. Whether or not Carol "gets it" or not is just mouthing words.
She closes off with a bunch of Programmed Confusion, of which I can generate as well. That is SUPPOSED to NOT make sense...why?
So you call her up and get some Byron Katie "coaching" and get referred to the School. ka-ching!!
So she has offered to answer questions about The Work, eh?
What does she have to say about the LGAT techniques of Thought Reform, that she is enmeshed in? Or is it going to be more Katie-babble and deflection, denial, and distortion?
This ain't rocket science folks.
Its simple manipulation. Some may be unconscious about what they are doing, but that is highly doubtful. No one is a professional facilitator, unless they understand what is going on behind the scenes. They see the process of mind-control work, and they begin to get off on the power of it. Its a Power-Trip...power corrupts, that is a fact of reality.
Why not see how "honest" these folks are, and see how they deal with direct questions?
Or will they give you this babble (I can do it too).
..its about releasing those aspects of your identity that you keep as a story, that keep you connected to everything you don't want to experience. You see, when you want to "be" something, that very story often blocks you from Awakening to your deeper"ness", which is beyond "story". You begin to find this Clarity is not something to be gained, or lost, or even found. It is the non-story of story...that same Clarity we spoke of.
If you would like to dicuss this more, please give me a call, and we can have some tea, and then I will take over your mind for 10 years or maybe even for life. Love...The Anticult.
At 2/27/2008 2:00 PM, Carol L. Skolnick said...
I'm a long-time reader and fan of Guruphiliac and I am also a facilitator of The Work. I'm reading with interest all the opinions of Byron Katie and The Work that are posted here, and I've also read the "anti-cult" stuff at culteducation.com, where they're now tarring and feathering our Jody. I won't bother to defend him, or Steve S., or Katie, or myself...as if I could; and I realize that nobody is everyone's cuppa chai.
However, I would like to clarify a few things about The Work, if I may.
>>It seems as though Katie's work is designed to shake up the connection to a personal "story".<<
In part, yes. The way I see it, The Work is a way to expand awareness. A common misconception of The Work is that it is meant to make the client "wrong," i.e. "whatever you believe can't be true." I see it as providing options. I always get to take my old toys back and go home in the end, if I still want them...and sometimes, I do, but most of the time, I'm happier to leave them behind.
>>However, because it is NOT allowed to "arise" naturally but, instead,is presented as this "system" for dealing with life's questions, it may be doomed to go the way of other such systems.<<
For me, the awareness that I am not my story actually does arise naturally from inquiry, just as for some people, it arises in meditation. One way is not less "natural" than the other. If you try to force an awareness from the inquiry, it's b.s., it doesn't stay. The same is true of any modality.
>>People get "bored" when it doesn't get them what they want and drop it.<<
Exactly; anything done with a motive to get something is going to become boring if you don't get what you want, or if you get it and realize it's not giving you the desired effect. For example, people get bored with Law of Attraction if they don't get the big house or the fancy car or the perfect partner quickly or at all...or when they discover that the house and car and partner aren't quite "it."
The Work can be practiced without any motive to "get" anything other than some clarity, and speaking for myself, this has been the most valuable way to approach it. If I want to become instantly enlightened, or to manipulate others through my supposed "clarity," (i.e. I'll become more loving so that they'll love me), I'm setting myself up for a fall.
>>Meanwhile, the Katie "questions" might actually prevent alot of people from finding an authentic way of being.<<
After many years of practicing this inquiry, I see myself as showing up more authentically than I ever did, because there is less fear in the equation. Stressful beliefs are fear-based, and when I began to have less investment in the drama, I became less fearful and therefore more available, to myself and others. It's been good to have that reality-check.
If one answers the questions automatically, mentally, saying what you think you're supposed to say rather than what you genuinely feel, without really steeping in the questions (probably more easily done NOT on a stage with Katie in front of hundreds of people, although I'm able to do that, myself), it's not going to be of much benefit. Practiced as a meditation/contemplation, it's actually a very direct and down-to-earth way of experiencing something akin to what the Ramana-style teachers point to, only you don't need anyone to "transmit" it to you. (As, indeed, they cannot.)
If anyone wants to contact me personally with sincere questions and concerns about The Work and the School for The Work (i.e. not personal attacks), I'm happy to answer as best I can.