Dear Garden and all:
We have had some disruptive visitors to this thread. And, any time someone provides now information, the likelihood of a new set of disruptive visitors increases.
Garden, you identified yourself as a former BK participant. You may risk being targeted by persons who know what kinds of triggers were installed during the training. So please be careful.
A very good strategy is dont respond to PMs from brand new people who have not yet established solid reputations on RR.com.
Two, if someone shows up new on this thread, sit back and wait. Or if you have doubts and the person already has posted, read all that persons posts, in aggregate and you can learn a lot--such as a person being nicey nice on one thread and nasty on another thread.
If you get any PM that is strange or doesnt seem right, pass it on to Rick Ross.
Persons who are honest enough to reveal that they were once involved with a group and who are in recovery may risk being targeted by those who want to confuse them and make them doubt their own perceptions.
On a very old LGAT thread years back, (it had nothing to do with BK--totally different set up) a very ingenious troll pretended to be an exit counselor and would target people who said they were recovering from the effects of the LGAT in question.
This troll's posts were full of stuff that confused and bored the crap out of me, but another person warned that that material was full of triggers could could fog the minds of LGAT graduates trying to recover and who were unaware of what levers had been implanted.
So, here is another spiffy, RR.com Continuing Education Module
--this time on the subject of the hairy toed tribe-- Trolls and Disinformation Specialists(This first item is to assist us if someone arrives and tries to run a guilt trip on us for suppressing the First Amendment by refusing to allow trolling, you can blow 'em off:)
David Wong, gives us some perspective in his articleFive Ways to Stop Trolls from Killing the Internet(The entire thing is not only informative, but also piss-in-your pants-funny. The photos are a hoot. Be sure to check out the photo of Mr Wong in a thong)
"Right now if you have a blog or forum or anything else with open comments, and you don't have a human moderator to watch it, you're going to wind up with a wasteland.
"As soon as more than one troll shows up, they will feed off each other until everyone else is gone. You have to control them.
"And don't start talking about free speech; the troll's goal is to shut down speech, to either fill the channel with noise until no one can talk to each other, or to get everyone talking about him instead of the subject at hand. He's a guy in a coffee shop screaming nonsense over a bullhorn."
In this case, 'the subject at hand' is BK.
Beware the Troll
**This is epecially important for those of us on RR.com using the Private Message (PM) system. Someone may try to game you through the PM system.
Dont fall for it
Here are just one or two items
from the list:
They engage in off list email dialogues to gain the confidence and trust of influential individuals on the list.
They are friendly and humorous in the posts, to put you at ease with their persona.
They have a well-thought-through story such that the persona seems to be very real. They will give apparently personal and intimate information, particularly in off list emails.
They win trust by giving trust. For example, they may hint at something confidential on-list, but then only reveal the full story to someone off-list. By bringing someone into their confidence, they create a feeling of confidence towards them by the individual's concernedIn off-list emails, (eg which correspond to RR.coms PM)they use techniques borrowed from NLP and Speed-Seduction to make people have a great deal of affection for them. This naturally suppresses any suspicion there might be.
They use gimmicks that win sympathy and bring out the 'nurturing parent' in other list members, which also suppresses any feelings of suspicion. E.g.: being blind, handicapped, an orphan, rejected, bullied etc..
(The BK gang specialize in manipulative pathos -just read this thread and study some of the handles of folks who turned out to be trolls C)
They use language that is carefully constructed to be subtly invidious. *
This language is designed to identify two or more separate groups of people, and encourage list members to identify the negative traits of those groups. This creates argument and dissent between list members. Note that subtlety is often their main objective, so this language is difficult to spot.(Corboy *I call these posts 'sting in a tail'--it sounds sweet but all of a sudden, you feel a jab. Or you get a subtle feeling there's a stink and you wonder where its coming from..like having a stray bit of dogshit on your shoe. You dont know it's there until the room warms up and people start giving you strange looksand you go nuts trying to figure out what the problem is.)
They don't enter into the argument directly, but facilitate an argument between list members, e.g.: by highlighting points that one list member has made, perhaps in a way that is more confrontational than the original intention.
*(Aka 'shit disturbers' Corboy)
They sometimes create a fictitious persona supported by a web-site, photographs and apparently personal data.
For more, read here:
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/11/2009 01:33AM by corboy.