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Re: "Jesus Christians," "cult", Dave McKay, the "Truth Believers"
Date: September 09, 2020 10:54PM

It would be 'nice' to find someone who has emerged out of their time spent with the JesusChristians and who has somehow managed to stay a little more than psychologically 'damaged goods'....

Perhaps Boyd and Sherri and family...just about the only ones that come to mind...(although I have of course not met ALL of the former members)....



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Re: "Jesus Christians," "cult", Dave McKay, the "Truth Believers"
Posted by: The Whirlwind ()
Date: September 10, 2020 02:19AM

Malcolm Wesley WREST Wrote:
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> It would be 'nice' to find someone who has emerged
> out of their time spent with the JesusChristians
> and who has somehow managed to stay a little more
> than psychologically 'damaged goods'....

Malcolm, you are the only former member who I know of who is willing to do anything publicly about Dave McKay and his cult. All of the rest of them, in my experience, 1) were (like the Gianstefanis) either kicked out of the group, and are still somewhat sympathetic to the the group (this type will not call it a cult at all) or 2) are psychologically scarred, very much believe Dave to be a bad man and the group a cult, and refuse to say or do anything about the cult because they're scared to death, or else otherwise unwilling to talk about their experience with Dave McKay. This type generally does not even like to think about Dave McKay. So you are a rarity in my experience with this group, Malcolm. You're very well-adjusted and are very willing to do something to stop McKay, and I salute you for it.

“Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said; Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? Gird up now thy loins like a man: for I will demand of thee and answer thou me.”

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "cult", Dave McKay, the "Truth Believers"
Posted by: The Whirlwind ()
Date: September 10, 2020 05:16AM

The Whirlwind Wrote:
>
> Malcolm, you are the only former member who I know
> of who is willing to do anything publicly about
> Dave McKay and his cult. All of the rest of them,
> in my experience, 1) were (like the Gianstefanis)
> either kicked out of the group, and are still
> somewhat sympathetic to the the group (this type
> will not call it a cult at all) or 2) are
> psychologically scarred, very much believe Dave to
> be a bad man and the group a cult, and refuse to
> say or do anything about the cult because they're
> scared to death, or else otherwise unwilling to
> talk about their experience with Dave McKay. This
> type generally does not even like to think about
> Dave McKay. So you are a rarity in my experience
> with this group, Malcolm. You're very
> well-adjusted and are very willing to do something
> to stop McKay, and I salute you for it.

For example, Malcolm, I know of at least one ex-member, a male guy left the group (I am not sure if he was kicked out of if he left on his own), who will not do anything against (whether in public or behind the scenes) the cult, because (basically) he is embarrassed and ashamed about having been tricked into giving up a kidney. That poor guy. He might have real health problems one day.

“Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said; Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? Gird up now thy loins like a man: for I will demand of thee and answer thou me.”

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "cult", Dave McKay, the "Truth Believers"
Date: September 13, 2020 06:41PM

Thank you Whirlwind,

I think (hope?) that the majority of those who donated a kidney...live to a 'healthy old age' and that their gift was ultimately genuine (..and was not provided primarily out of a wish to either fund or advertise McKay)....

....'we' (I?) should work 'our'(my?) way through some of McKay's written work...the 'write up' in Wikipedia is clealy designed to cast them in a favourable light (completely excludes David's years in the Children of God for example...thus does not identify the origin of a lot of the Jesus Christian theology)....

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "cult", Dave McKay, the "Truth Believers"
Posted by: The Whirlwind ()
Date: September 17, 2020 02:28AM

Malcolm Wesley WREST Wrote:
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> Thank you Whirlwind,
>
> I think (hope?) that the majority of those who
> donated a kidney...live to a 'healthy old age' and
> that their gift was ultimately genuine (..and was
> not provided primarily out of a wish to either
> fund or advertise McKay)....
>
> ....'we' (I?) should work 'our'(my?) way through
> some of McKay's written work...the 'write up' in
> Wikipedia is clealy designed to cast them in a
> favourable light (completely excludes David's
> years in the Children of God for example...thus
> does not identify the origin of a lot of the Jesus
> Christian theology)....

You are welcome, Malcolm. I've never tried to edit their Wikipedia page at all. Have you?

“Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said; Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? Gird up now thy loins like a man: for I will demand of thee and answer thou me.”



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Re: "Jesus Christians," "cult", Dave McKay, the "Truth Believers"
Posted by: The Whirlwind ()
Date: September 26, 2020 04:30AM

Interesting. The YouTube channel "Truth Convoy", which is supportive of the Jesus Christians and the McKays, has gone quiet. That crazy wench has not made any new videos in over six weeks. I wonder why. Maybe she's done the world a favor, and left it (as in, hopefully she has passed away).

“Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said; Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? Gird up now thy loins like a man: for I will demand of thee and answer thou me.”



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