I apologize, however I am slightly confused by your question, when you say,C'mon you guys! How could he have been fine when you were there, if he wrote this then? Are you all Stockholming ?
by "he" do you mean "David McKay" and by "he wrote this"...do you mean that David quoted the passage (somewhere) that you have included in your last posting?
When a person is in a situation, where everything they once believed, is challenged to the point where their physical or spiritual existence feels threatened, their human instinct leans towards self-preservation. If they are surrounded by a group who challenge their former mind set relentlessly and are without recourse to any alternative support, they experience great psychological distress. In this situation it is estimated that it can take between 3-4 days before a psychological mind shift occurs and they essentially become brainwashed, losing their own identity and forming a bond through the Stockholm syndrome. Once the shift occurs, the victim no longer thinks about escape, but only pleasing and identifying with their abuser to avoid physical or spiritual death.
One of the telling symptoms is self delusion expressed through extreme loyalty.
Unfortunately, many victims of Stockholm syndrome maintain their bonds to their captors for months, even years, after they have been set free.
The Rick Ross thread contains three "epic cult sagas", namely Chris Butler, Byron Katie and David McKay (...although Christopher Hansard might possibly also like to think himself "dangerous" enough to rate a mention). If you have not troubled to do so, I would recommend reading parts of the other two major threads....in shades of deja vu....what I personally find of most interest in them, is the SIMILARITY in the techniques employed by these fraudsters and in the commonality of the experiences of those who have suffered at the hands of these conniving shams.
David and Bryon and Chris will all "warn" you of the dangers of (other) cults, pleasantly invite you to look over their material and "think about it for yourself", tell you that they can help you to "reach the full potential" that "God" has for you....they are predators who are deliberately masking their intentions with glib assurances and with appeals to "higher concepts" with which to bait those they are seeking to ensnare....
If David has quoted the passage you nominate somewhere, it in no way "proves" that he is genuine in any sense of the word(I'm reminded of Satan (mis)quoting scripture when tempting Christ...would you say then that the poor Devil, is just some poor devout soul, that has been simply misunderstood, down the ages?....after all lets face it, he obviously reads the Bible!)
....the use of such referencing (you may find Christine, David's daughter, claiming that she is familiar with Milgrams' famous experiment) to persuade those unfamiliar with him that David couldn't possibly be so blatantly hypocritical (as in fact he really is) as to quote such findings and then practice the very things he "apparently" condemns......the purpose of these references is to "psychologically" disarm those considering involvement and to discourage them from questioning his credibility.....
In relation to (another?) enquiry....How could David have once been "fine"? (I'm not sure who you are quoting here Pimento...but assuming you have such a quote)
The records show that David's many critics ultimately left, hence that would indicate to me that when they describe something as "fine",
that they are speaking relatively.
There once was a warm, friendly man called David McKay (...driven by his own growing sense of "destiny"...an ultimately psychologically cancerous end for him) and the fellowship I shared with many other members of the JesusChristians, remains a special memory for me. I was too immature to be able to look deeper into David, at the time I became involved....consequently I thus ended up spending three and a half years chiefly "selling" him....
....despite the "good times" (now I would doubt there to be a great many of them in the current JC operation), I would not recommend others repeat my experience.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/01/2009 11:17PM by Malcolm Wesley WREST.