Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Date: October 31, 2010 10:05PM
Here's my latest chat with Dave. I was trying to find out whether i was given a short term ban or a life ban. Here's the full unedited version before Dave posts his own edited version on the JC website.
Jesus Christian
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Bryan
hello
Anyone available?
Jesus Christian
hi
Bryan
Hi Dave it's Bryan
Jesus Christian
Can you give me your username?
from Scotland?
Bryan
yeah the one who wears a skirt and eats sheeps intestines
how are you?
Jesus Christian
how are things with you?
Fine here.
Bryan
good thanks
Jesus Christian
Saw your report to the RR forum.
Bryan
Was i given a life ban or a short term ban?
Jesus Christian
Some amazing conclusions you reached from the little research you did.
I'll just check.
It may have been short term and I have just forgotten about it.
Bryan
I would like some clarification, thanks.
Jesus Christian
Got read it for yourself. I thought you wrote it. Did someone else do it in your name?
Bryan
So am i banned?
Jesus Christian
sorry, I'm a bit slow.
I expect you are in the present tense.
Bryan
Yes that is correct
Jesus Christian
But if I've forgotten to lift the ban, I'll do that now.
Bryan
I'll pop back in at some point
Jesus Christian
It seems that the ban was contingent on someone from the forum asking for you to come back.
And, of course, that was after you sent in your report to the RR forum.
Bryan
So the ban still stands?
Jesus Christian
Like I said, I'll post what you sent in to them and see if they think the ban should be lifted.
Bryan
Thanks for clarifying that.
Jesus Christian
Myself, I don't mind a couple of trolls from time to time, but sometimes we all get weary of them.
Bryan
I'm not a troll Dave
Jesus Christian
I just read the RR definition of a troll this week, and I thought it fit you perfectly.
Bryan
I take offence to that
Jesus Christian
Perhaps you can look it up over there.
Bryan
Do you have a problem with me posting on the RR forum?
I'm free to join whatever forum i wish to Dave.
Jesus Christian
Oh hang on. I HAVE already posted your report.
I have a problem with you pretending to be looking for the truth on our forum when your mind was already made up before you came.
And when you then went off to make your supposedly authoritative judgments without a scrap of evidence.
Bryan
Dave i arrived on your forum with an open mind.
I was looking for the truth and i eventually found it.
The truth isn't hard to find Dave and perhaps that's why you have such a low membership rate.
Jesus Christian
Their leader Dave McKay is a callous, malicious, controlling and manipulative individual.
Bryan
I will give anyone the benefit of the doubt Dave.
Your paranoia and manipulation tactics left me feeling unnerved and suspicious.
I decided to look more closely at the group and as i said, i eventually found the truth.
Jesus Christian
Does that sound open-minded?
They ... beg for donations on street corners... and cheat the benefits system.
Does tht sound like giving anyone the benefit of the doubt?
Bryan
Dave that's called forming an opinion.
MY OWN OPINION
Jesus Christian
Dave McKay breaks up families. Dave McKay causes division between children and their parents. Parents are a hindrance to Dave McKay.
Does that sound like an opinion?
The law calls it slander.
Bryan
Dave you were given every opportunity to put my mind at rest.
Your aggressive paranoia was evident from the moment I joined the JC forum and it was impossible to get a direct answer from you.
Maybe you have something to hide?
Jesus Christian
Lies without a scrap of evidence.
Bryan
You chose to ban me Dave.
I would have happily debated such matters on the JC forum.
Jesus Christian
I'm not talking about answering questions.
I'm talking about lies.
Bryan
Are you seriously trying to lecture me about lying Dave?
You lie on a daily basis when you accuse the Johnsons of attempted murder.
As far as i'm aware the Johnson's have never been found guilty of attempted murder, apart from in your kangaroo court.
Jesus Christian
So does that give you the right to kill me?
Bryan
I beg your pardon?
Jesus Christian
You see, lying gossips are worse than murderers, because they destroy whole groups of people.
You are a lying gossip.
Bryan
I wouldn't want to kill anyone.
I find it very unnerving the way you continually obsess over murdering and killing.
It’s not normal behaviour Dave.
I worry about your state of mind when you make comments like 'lying gossips are worse than murderers'.
What kind of sane person would make such a ridiculous statement?
Jesus Christian
This is a religious cult who had been secretly grooming their son from the age of 16.
You have accused us of paedophilia here.
THAT is a very strong accusation.
Bryan
Nonsense, complete and utter nonsense.
Jesus Christian
Dictionary definition, groom: (Law) to win the confidence of (a victim) in order to a commit sexual ssault on him or her.
Bryan
Dictionary definition, Groom - To prepare, as for a specific position or purpose.
Jesus Christian
If you absolutely MUST print such utter rubbish, please learn to use IMO an awful lot. It could keep you out of jail one day.
Sorry, but it does not fit the context.
Anyway, I wonder how many other sites you have been banned from.
Bryan
Dave you would be laughed out of any serious court.
Only yours Dave but i imagine most members who join your forum and question your teachings are eventually banned.
It's Dave's way or the highway.
Jesus Christian
Troll is almost a compliment compared to what I think of you and your approach to the truth.
Bryan
No need to be so abusive Dave
Jesus Christian
Not that I could believe anything you said.
You were telling me that it was utter nonsense that you were going to write up a report for the cultbusters too. hahahaha
abusive? I beg your pardon?
You arrogant little fucking pipsqueak.
Bryan
Dave you were given every opportunity to answer my questions regarding the group.
You chose to side step my questions, instead preferring to analyze trivial matters from our original chat, which you of course edited in an attempt to control and manipulate.
Jesus Christian
You write that kind of rubbish about us and then have the cheek to tell me not to call you a troll?
I don't have to answer ANY of your questions, Bryan.
That is the reasoning of a troll, plain and simple.
If the world does not jump to your tune, then you ahve the right to slander.
Bryan
Fucking Pipsqueek?
Grow up Dave.
I refuse to be dragged down to your level
You would love a slanging match wouldn't you?
Just grow up for goodness sake.
Dave i realised long ago you don't answer questions.
Jesus Christian
You are the one with a bee in your bonnet.
I just hope one day Joe wakes up and sees McKay for the conman that he is.
Do you know tht it is libel to accuse someone of being a conman without any evidence?
Anyway, I don't have time for you right now. I have bigger fish to fry.Well, that is exactly what I was implying for you, Bryan, with the name pipsqueak.
Bryan
Abusive insults, very clever Dave.
GOODBYE
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2010 10:06PM by Apollo.