Hey, it's cool man, and it's nothing personal. I've personally been VERY transparent on this forum. First of all, where do you live? I am from TX, myself.

I'm happy to supply MALCOLM with my info but not you BB. You are a hothead. Crying TROLL on me without proof is like DJ doing that to people. Try to have PROOF. And that is more than Franky with her wild ideas.

So what? I'll get it anyway, regardless of whether i get it directly from you.



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Dear Paul,

I appreciate the research you are putting into all your postings (obviously you read through the RR site frequently)....however,


I have had the pleasure to actually meet Franky in person....I though her a wonderful young woman, a very warm, intelligent and considerate individual....


Brian and I communicate regularly and I have a great deal of respect for the enormous effort he has thoughtfully put in, into exposing the lies McKay lives off and I greatly enjoy the times I socialize with him...


Hence I cannot help but feel rather "uncomfortable" in your descriptions of the two of them....if they make a remark about you that you feel is inaccurate, I'd personally just "let it go" (in public and alternatively contact them by the private message function of this site....

....God knows that there are quite a few of the exmembers, who don't actually care for me a great deal....but that's their business....

......I'd prefer not to devote this board to that "topic".....


As I may have mentioned elsewhere, I personally do not care who you actually are Paul (...you really COULD be "Al-Antony" for all I care, I have no interest whatsoever in finding out!)...I will only judge "who" you are by the contents of your postings.....thus you are Paul to me, until you inform me otherwise...


I think your contributions here, would come across as more "authoritative" if you didn't make negative comments about Fran or Brian at one and same same time....if either of them come across as a little "negative" about you, in your opinion....don't worry about it! After all, McKay is the "target" not them!

You are most welcome to visit me in Korea, should you happen to be in this part of the world!

You are right Malcolm. I was getting bent out of shape due to DJ's being so happy over next week and his chance to take a cruise all at the expense of the Johnsons who I see as DJ's victim. I believe Reino would have accepted their apology and taken responsibility for his wrong doing had DJ not stuck out his grubby fist for BIG $$$$$$.
As for B, I wish he would not make rash statements about who people are and demand them to post their private information when there is the likes of DJ always gathering crap. I've been home from work, sick with flu and I've spent hours reading over such crap about McKay it clouded my thinking.

As for Franky, I wanted to correct her on her assumption that abuse means rape. I was speaking of mistreatment of another person as abuse. I only know what I have read about the alleged sexual abuse and I have no personal knowledge of that. I hope it did not happen. I think the way DJ and Alf are chopping Franky up is evil and cruel. Franky I apologise to you for yesterday.

You are right-the common enemy is DJ and the JC faithful few who want to take down the Johnson's for $$$$$$.

Glen is banned for the EX sight. That must be a relief to those who post there.

I stand behind my concerns for Sue and Rols child. I hope someone closer to them is able to get his welfare checked on.

Brian peace brother? We are on the same side. I don't want any anti JC sight to implode as the JC cult is doing.

Peace, Paul.

Am I right in thinking (from what I have read on the forum) that you were a prospective that was turned off?

I find a few things unusual, like your reference to McKay by his nickname (DJ), but then getting other things wrong, like the spelling of Cherry's name.

In fact, her real name is Sherian, so perhaps that is the reason you refer to her as Sherry?

How and when did you first become aware of the JCs? What country are you in?

The problem is that whether you are genuine or not, you do get a lot of facts wrong, which harms the credibility of those opposed to McKay.

If you can PM me your email address, then I'd appreciate it.



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What country? USA Right now I'm in my office. The walls are green.
I call her Sherry didn't think much of that as her name is Sherian as you say.
Became aware of the cult in 2006 then contacted them 2008. I was in touch because I was interested but then passed on getting into it. Then I got into it again in Feb 2009. OKAY?
Not sure you KNOW all facts of life BB so can you judge what is right? You have people you know and trust. Me too.
I read plenty. I ask questions. I know people. I am on the JC sight myself so I can see what DJ says.

My mothers maiden name was Hill.
I was born in Ireland.
I live in a house I own. It's painted white with dark brown shutters.
I have a cat named King Tut. He's 12.
Does the name meadow mean anything? *giggle*

[Moderator Note: Posting email addresses or other contact information is against the rules]



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Dear Paul,

I'd be a little interested to hear of the cruise details.....the invitation list mostly.....are all the JC's "rewarded" with it? Is anyone else (any potentials) being "bought"?

(Franky would have been one of the few people who could possibly have "engaged" with some of the current members....David of course would have understood that)

It's a cycle of "reward and punishment" with David, keeping those he has duped into selling himself, hence he must discern some need to be in one of his (all too rare) "benevolent" shows again....and there of course was the attempted slight at those he secretly only wanted to ridicule all along....

...David "bemoans" the fact that those non-members he invited, turned him down...how "insincere" of them to disbelieve in the "generosity"....(of his publicity stunt!)


DO NOT answer this publicly, (please privately message me) however I would be interested to hear how you received this tidbit, which you posted on page 366 earlier.

MacKay has been abandoned by almost everyone including his own children who he raised in the cult. One family member remains. They are attempting to have DJ “observed” by a medical personnel who can get him on some form of therapy to bring his decline under control. <+DO NOT USE THIS+Letter from Christine to Joseph Johnson+ copy provided by Ash sent to N.Croft dated last year +source Appel>


I presume that this would be "leaders only" material.....How many JC's would share Christines (probably clandestine) perspective I wonder....

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Just wanted to say that this ' Paul_ Connor ' is AlAnthony. No one -( especially Kirstie) has written to me about abuse ?! - except AlAnthony. No one has ever ' checked ' with me. AlAnthony has written many alarming emails to me - which are catalogued with time of date in my gmail account - all of my emails are archived and can be checked with time of date. There is no way to alter this - and I'd be happy to have the police look at it to verify that.
AlAnthony has written to me that Grace had been raped by two other Jesus Christians , that all of them were on Schizo meds - as he called them - and that he had seen the evidence , that one of the JC's ' shat ' on Glenn's lawn and that he had a friend in London that desperately wanted to kidnap Alfred. The list goes on and on.
Whatever my opinion of the JC's may be - I don't think that someone blatantly telling lies and trying to stir up trouble is acceptable.

I am pretty sure, almost certain, that this Connor guy either AL or Glen, or both. It would make a lot of sense if it is either Al or Glenn.

One of the terms he uses for email addresses, "addys" is very familiar.

The email about what Glenn is supposedly doing, isn't the type of thing that Glenn would share with anyone else, but Al.

Al also likes introducing pornographic, gay descriptions in his correspondence and I note there is that type of description coming through his RR posts. Like this sort of stuff:

"Boy it's like watching a prison porno in front of your eyes. Fat simple stupid white boy thrown in the prison with raping criminals-they first groom him and he eagerly bends to pick up the soap for the gang leader and owwwwwwwie zowieeeeeeeeeeeeee-while he screams "owww...owwww....thanks big daddy". .

Just reading some of the stuff Glenn wrote in his defence on the JC site. Says that Paul is trying to use Al's style. Funny as he probably knows it is him by now!

[welikejesus.com]

Didn't realise that they were trying to implicate me by spelling Glenn as Glen as I do. Clever of them. But they have come unstuck, as they have forgotten to do it several times in "Paul Connor's" posts. So we see both Glen and Glenn.

We do not often use the term "toadies" in the States, nor the the Aussie expression, "bloke". Paul uses both.

The thing about "shitting on the lawn" is definitely an Al thing. He's commented about that before.

Also, Al likes over using, lol.

The thing about Paul's cat "King Tut" is a dead giveaway. Glen got banned from here while using the alias "King Tut." Same thing with the use of the *giggle*. That's something that Glen writes.

I know they both confess to suffering from boredom and go on the internet for entertainment and you are aware that they tried that scam about Glenn being a double agent.

I am advising my contacts not to have anything to do with either of them. The best outcome would be that all sites RR, Ex JC and the JC site ban them, as they are obviously working against all parties, simply for their own amusement.

My guess is that Franky has a lot on Al, but probably is reluctant to share it, as he may retaliate by sharing information she may prefer to keep private.

I see he is trying to cover up his accusation regarding sexual abuse to say he meant mental abuse, I guess he is concerned that it will come out that he is the one that allegedly accused JC of rape.

To GLENN and AL:

I don’t care who you are, you miserable trolls. Your claims about your agenda here don’t wash with me, "Connor."

You’re both a couple of asses.

You don’t care about presenting balance in a discussion. You both just like to stir up trouble and make things hard for everybody on both sides.

You have both spent a few years years embroiled in an ongoing, one-sided game. That's all that this is to both of you, isn't it? Some kind of game.

You don’t care what it was like for someone who was in this very harmful cult called the Jesus Christians.

You don't care about warning the public and helping to prevent anybody else's kid from being preyed upon by DM and his crew.

You can’t be made to even consider the possible effect of your diversionary missives on anyone who was in this group, who may actually have experienced additional trauma later on.

You’re an both a couple of inconsiderate, sub-par, pseudo-intellectual agents provocateur who aren'’t even capable of seeing how very poorly you serve your professed purpose of being proponents of, and apologists for, the JCs.

If either of you were capable of any of these insights you would be aware of how your reductive, dismissive, insensitive and yeah, (even to your claimed objective) incompetence is exactly like that of the JCs themselves.

Whoever the hell you are, Connor/Al/Glenn, you will not prevail in this misguided endeavor of yours to belittle the firsthand accounts of those who experienced and witnessed abuses committed against the victims of David McKay.



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Get yourself under control BB. You are being ignored from here on in. Keep it up and you are risking what remains of your shakey credibility. You are not helping us or yourself with your stupid and wrong assumptions.
Everything you accuse DJ of YOU are doing. Yapping with no proof. Go think of 3 good things to do to amuse yourself until next week is over.
Make a list of 50 questions you would ask the Pope.
Create a dossier on yourself.
Collect twitter friends.
JUST GET OFF OUR BACKS.

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What country? USA Right now I'm in my office. The walls are green.
I call her Sherry didn't think much of that as her name is Sherian as you say.
Became aware of the cult in 2006 then contacted them 2008. I was in touch because I was interested but then passed on getting into it. Then I got into it again in Feb 2009. OKAY?
Not sure you KNOW all facts of life BB so can you judge what is right? You have people you know and trust. Me too.
I read plenty. I ask questions. I know people. I am on the JC sight myself so I can see what DJ says. My email is connor_and_associates@yahoo.com

My mothers maiden name was Hill.
I was born in Ireland.
I live in a house I own. It's painted white with dark brown shutters.
I have a cat named King Tut. He's 12.
Does the name meadow mean anything? *giggle*

Judging by your reaction, I was on target.

Your house is brown red brick, with white/crème shutters and a red tile roof.

The fact you say you are in a house you own, and it is white with brown shutters is probably the first thing that came into your head and you reversed it. Just to add shutters is in my opinion suggestive of you, Al, because it is something you make a big fuss of. You claim they were added for your protection.