Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Date: February 04, 2008 09:14AM
Some responses to Dave's continual slander of ex-members
"Over on the RR forum Craig has been dominating the scene with pages and pages of posts."
Doing my best to counter Dave!
"It's hardly worth responding to the accusations he makes as they've all been responded to before..."
I must have missed that. Please tell us again Casey why your community is justified in using gossip, physical force, psychological and social pressures to get its members to comply and Dave can retaliate against all who refuse to comply with verbal and physical abuse, malicious damage to property, public slander and the like, and still get on your high horse with pages and pages of histrionics about the injustice in some Quakers feeling your beliefs and practice are incompatible with their own.
Casey goes on to compare me with the Pharisees who were offended by the fact that Jesus did not wash his hands and asked questions to try and trap him.
The criminal behaviour which I have described represents the rotting corpses Dave hides behind the whited seplechure of his righteousness, and does not compare to the nit picking that he and his Sanhedrin indulge in, in an effort to find dirt on the hands of those they have treated so shamefully.
"Now that you have mentioned Craig's latest raves, which, in the absence of David Lowe, Anita Walker, and Brian Birmingham have been little more than Craig talking to himself..."
Curious comment from someone who continues to rant against those he bans from his forum. Happy to talk with you in an open forum any time, Dave, but as I was expelled from your synagogue, I post here where it looks like at least you and Casey are taking an interest in what I say.
"He keeps making changes to his own accusations, embellishing them more each time he tells them. Despite our many explanations about the comment regarding force and paedophiloia, he is now preaching that the comment was actually made in the context of a defence for paedophilia! (And he has the audacity to take the high moral ground against BRIAN for posting stuff that is not true!)"
Dave's likes to embellish his summaries of what others say with assertive rhetoric rather than simply providing the evidence with a simple quote.
This is what I wrote: "Dave argued that sex crimes like pedophilia cannot be explained as evil due to "force" as most pedophiles try to seduce their victims, and got himself into an indefensible position when arguing against the point that such an act takes advantage of the vulnerabilities of children and their reduced ability to understand or resist those who force themselves on to them."
"It's pretty obvious that they have all recognised that Craig's rants over the past couple of weeks are NOT suitably sane to be published in a book, and so Craig has decided that if he is never going to get a publisher to touch such unsupportable slander, he may as well take advantage of the one platform where he is free (like Brian) to slander myself and Jesus Christians totally without restraint."
Once again Dave questions the sanity of a critic. Responses would suggest people are enjoying the "depth" of my contributions. Everyone knows that if I said something that is not true and which cannot be substantiated with witnesses, you would be threatening to take me to court like you did with Brian, Dave.
"For my part, I think that the more rope he is given, the more he is going to hang himself, so that in the end, like Casey has done above, we can just say to people, "Go read it for yourself, and you'll be able to see that this is one sick puppy." Even at the risk of people thinking that some of it might be true, they come back convinced that he does not have much credibility."
Dave, you are not giving me anything. You can delete or ban what I say on your forum, but you don't hold any "rope" here. If you think that the comments from a trained lap dog represent an objective response to what I say, you are deluded.