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There's something else that I noticed last night when studying more on the topic of David Berg, and what XFamily circles have termed "Bergisms."

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Has anybody else ever noticed how David (McKay, that is) peppers his communiques and teachings with the "Ha!" suffix to denote derision, or "as an interjection emoting amusement or hilarity in a given subject," or as well how he seems to have a habit of overusing exclamation points in his writings, JUST LIKE DAVID BERG?

Also there is DM's apparent preoccupation with thriftiness and saving; as well I have heard from various sources (this forum included) that DM is extremely "cheap," JUST LIKE DAVID BERG.

Rationing of toilet paper, saving every last bit of toothpaste, etc. Same kinds of things. Berg used literal rods, McKay uses whips. On and on the parallels go.

The JC teachings are mainly just paraphrased versions of the MO Letters, as I have described in earlier postings. More on that later. A website designed to further expand on and provide illustrations of these paraphrasings is "in the works."

There are so many similarities between the two them that one would think (other than in the the obvious, prurient ways, but even then, DM's preoccupation with masturbation is more than a little disturbing) David McKay is not just trying to emulate David Berg, he is trying to BE David Berg.

When I was on the JK show, DM started to babble about masturbation: "Who masturbates? Who masturbates?" He cried out while waving his hand up in the air as is to say "Me too!" Now I shall tell you about the exact context in which wanking was brought up as a topic for discussion. I remember it vividly, and that stuff never made it into the final cut, or therefore on the air.

It was close to the end of the show, and L was telling the audience about some of the odd particulars of JC doctrine; she told of how the males in the JCs are pressured into getting vasectomies, also she told about how DM encourages people to masturbate, not just that it was allowed, but encouraged. Of course all of the JCs on stage denied these things and said that she was lying.

L looked incredulous and disgusted. She said impatiently, "But it's on your website Dave. The whole world can read about it." Then DM said something like, "OK, I admit it. That's true. I masturbate. Who else masturbates? Who masturbates?" He was grinning and waving his arm in the air. Then he said "No, better yet, who in the audience HAS masturbated?"

There was a gasp of shock and disgust from the audience, a grumble of discomfort at DM's display of lack of self-control for shock value. L puckered her lips as if to express profound contempt. G. Baldwin shook his head ruefully. I simply stared at DM in amazement because I nearly literally couldn't believe what I was witnessing. J. Kyle told Dave that he was acting perverse and childish.

DM just giggled like he was pleased with himself, and the other JCs on stage laughed on cue also. It was a bizarre scene.

I think that DM must be somebody who is on the autistic spectrum, probably low-level Asperger's IMO. His lack of empathy, trouble with "theory of mind," his complete self-centeredness, his high intelligence and hyperlexicality, talent as a writer, lack of impulse control and social skills, it's all there. I say a tad of Apserger's. Add to that a deeply ingrained personality disorder (NPD) on top of all that and we have a very very dangerous combination.

And I am not making fun of people with Asperger's, either. By no means. Mozart, Einstein and Ben Franklin probably had Asperger's too. In some respects, it can be thought of as an asset. People with Asperger's are usually highly intelligent and are capable of thinking far "outside of the box" in a way that neurotypical people cannot. But you get a person with Apserger's and NPD and you have a dangerous combination; you have someone with a complete and total lack of empathy, and little regard for the rules and norms of society, and a completely self-centered worldview. You have a very sick person.

It was so surreal to observe this man, apparently a high-functioning autistic, and obviously a completely narcissistic religious nut with OCD and a dirty mind, up close and personal. I never thought I'd wind up on TV with McKay. In ENGLAND, with DM, on British television. I actually skipped going to my own (Episcopal) confirmation to do it, and never was confirmed. The bishop understood though. I had met Sue before, years ago, and she was as fanatical and accusatory as I remember her being back in '02. Cherry never looked me in the eye, or looked directly at me at all for that matter. DM approached me, thanked me for coming, and extended his hand to shake. Actually thanked me for coming when the filming was over, he did.