facet Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here is a quote from a longer read via the > following link: > > > > It demonstrates well the scale of abuse and how it > has been passed down the line straight from the > top. > > It may have already been quoted in one of the > other threads. > > Take care when reading
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Here is a quote from a longer read via the following link: It demonstrates well the scale of abuse and how it has been passed down the line straight from the top. It may have already been quoted in one of the other threads. Take care when reading the following quote as there are accounts of abuse that may be upsetting to read, know your limits. QuoteFrom court documents lodged by
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Chris Butler's guru was Srila Prabhupada of ISKCON. Like ISKCON, Butler set up a boarding school and pressured devotee parents to send their young children to that school. QuoteAlthough there are those devotees who suspect Prabhupada was poisoned by his closest disciples, at 82, he was also a sick man suffering from diabetes. Partly because he was vague about who would succeed him,
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Mike Jones ~ No doubt one can gain feelings of joy and strength from spiritual writings and music. The chanting and melodies of any religious group can be uplifting. I am partial to Gregorian chants, Mizrahi music, Puccini arias, and Persian poetry. Any exer here would agree that they felt the same attraction and feelings as you do. They also understood that with any group of like-mind
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Cute gorgeous young people are great for selling stuff. Anything. The girl scene attracts both girls, women -- and males. Girls and women love the girlpal scene. Males....whatever age, the males will love the presence of nice cute girls. And in the West, yoga clothing has taken sexualized forms. Low rider pants. Crop tops. Some brands of yoga pants and shorts supposedly ma
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QuotecorboyLaguna beach was a hang out for the Brotherhood of Eternal Love. And there was an ISKCON connection. Nori Muster's book (first citation) is worth a peek. Brotherhood of Eternal Love and Surfboards Brotherhood of Eternal Love and Timothy Leary The BEOL helped raise bail for Leary and liased with the Weather Underground to get him escape custody. Chris Butle
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Laguna beach was a hang out for the Brotherhood of Eternal Love. And there was an ISKCON connection. Nori Muster's book (first citation) is worth a peek. Brotherhood of Eternal Love and Surfboards Brotherhood of Eternal Love and Timothy Leary The BEOL helped raise bail for Leary and liased with the Weather Underground to get him escape custody.
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(Somber) You are fortunate that you remained a friend on the sidelines. Early in the 1970s in Laguna Beach, some very dangerous and deadly stuff went down between Krishnas and others who got into drugs smuggling. This is described by Nuri Muster in her book, Betrayal of the Spirit. ISKON It was more than a cult. It acquired vast wealth. when a leader becomes old, frail, has vast weal
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QuoteVera City Zelig told me he had personally heard Chris Butler lecture to Rick Reed that he should either go into politics or become a guru. He advised and directed his career (with his wife Carter) the whole time he was working for the AG. Gabbard is no different. Political activism and deception is a big part of this cult. And we believed that Chris was going to use the political system
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Ninety plaintiffs and 400 additional claimants have filed claims against the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, ISKCON, the Hare Krishna movement, for alleged child abuse suffered in the organization's school system in the 1970s and 1980s. Nori J. Muster, a former member and researcher, explains what happened in the schools and how it remained secret for twenty years. She also
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Items for further research Brotherhood of Eternal Love QuoteSiddha with his pyschic sleep and drugs was how he was the only disciple with a following by the time he joined ISKCON. He had two followers running the Laguna temple which just happened to be located next door to Leary's Brotherhood of Eternal Love drug smuggling ring which also ran out of Maui where Ramesvara the Iskcon drug gu
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QuoteThe Anticult...its also frankly a shameless bluff by RandomStu, when Stuart Resnick claims to have no real connection with Byron Katie and Stephen Mitchell, when in fact he recommends Byron Katie on his website, with direct links to her videos and blog. RandomStu also links to Carol Skolnick, and also highly recommends Steven Sashen's dubious get-rich-quick schemes, while attacking ot
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Perhaps such synchronism means something for Siddha. The documents are also here in The Betrayl Files collected by Nori Muster which is a very interesting collection of documents. The New Recruits Training Manual 1976 is certainly disturbing reading. I backtracked your link Vera City and I found that you do indeed own a very interesting collection. Reading through the letters ther
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Quoteshanti But you also have to remember that I was NOT an initiated disciple then... and, even more importantly...I am female. :lol: The old vegetarian sausage fest. It's still "Exnay on the guns-hay in front of the wimmen-hay" Sorry my pig vedic is a little rusty. All the ISKCON/Chriskcon guys were travelling all over the world and how were they affording that? It was a
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Me thinks that it is going to get awfully lonely up there on your pedestal Zelig. QuoteRick Ross is the one that banned people, not me, and for good reasons. Yet I notice that you are the first person to start pointing at people and calling them trolls, issuing challenges - which I believe that you call questioning to others to prove their validity when you yourself hide behind an alias. An
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See Can Cultic Groups Change? The Case of ISKCON April 18, 1999 By Nori Muster, author of "Betrayal of the Spirit"--a book about Krishna The American Family Foundation (AFF) will host their 1999 "Conference: Cults, Psychological Manipulation & Society" and one the featured panel discussions will be about whether cults can change and will specifically
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maui: Quotemind and "mind control" or "brainwashing" is a very controversial topic amongst the academic and professinal community involved in these areas. See Wikipedia is supposedly an online encyclopedia, but its format allows anyone to contribute. And per its disclaimer information there has not "necessarily been reviewed by professionals with the expertise nece
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QuoteDr. Margaret Singer and the other experts cited are consistently objective and base their assesment on behavior not belief. The issue is "brainwashing," which is about the "human mind," and the focus of the experts cited (training, expertise and research) is also the "human mind" What experts would you cite, other than mental health professionals, that study
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maui: QuoteWhile some people may be referred to as "experts" on "cult psychology" maybe we should see that when dealing with religious motivations and the human mind that "experts" on these topics are not all they are cracked up to be. Dr. Margaret Singer and the other experts cited are consistently objective and base their assesment on behavior not belief. The
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Ex-Krishna, Actually, I took no offense to your forum name, or anything else for that matter. I don't think anyone should take offense to those things. Unfortunately, what I read from you on this thread and on the recovery forum are common stories that I've heard about and seen with my own eyes in some of those groups I mentioned. Women devotees, encouraged never to get an educ
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