Hi all - The Rich Dad Poor Dad cult is sending out recruitment emails. This showed up in my spam box: From: Rich Dad Poor Dad <RichDadPoorDad@humanfacility.com> Mark Unread To: xxx@xxx Subject: Hello, Orlando invitation to Rich Dad, Poor Dad seminar Date: Jan 7, 2007 4:49 PM Learn to be Rich™ offers you a clear path to the next level through han
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QuoteFairytale And as mjr40 said, they start at school. In both my hometown and the one where I moved to go to Med-school (where they tried to recruit me) there are several elementary schools (for separate genders, of course). And they start going on with the "God's will of having many numeraries" very early. This is correct. One of the primary activities of any cult, includi
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Quotefeedthe5000If you want to talk about David Koresh or something like that, that is one thing. As far as I understand people are free to come and go in Jews for Jesus as they like. They don't have a leader who is trying to brainwash them or take them away from famalies. This is incorrect. Jews for Jesus uses many of the same thought reform techniques as Koresh did, as do other cults ac
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Brownback for President In 1996, Brownback fell under the spell of Rev. John McCloskey, an anchor at the right-wing Catholic organization Opus Dei. He was baptized a Catholic “not in a church but in a chapel tucked between lobbyists' offices on K Street that is run by Opus Dei." From BeyondChron.
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Hi all - The Scientology cult was seen over the holidays in the 34th St subway station, near the B, D, F and V trains. They were yelling at people to take their "stress-test" which is not even an instrument of any kind. They also still have their bright red winter Dianetics jackets. Be careful out there.
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Quotecarl nothing wrong with that.. all they mean is that Jews, practicing or not, dont need to be afraid of beleiving in Jesus (because of family looking down on them and such). Got it? The issue is not their belief system; the issue is the Jews for Jesus is recruits like a cult, acts like a cult, engages in thought reform like a cult and cuts off its members like a cult. If a group acts l
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QuoteFairytale This state of dissociation of body and spirit can be well compared to the one caused by ingestion of psychotropic substances, provoking changes in perception, mood, consciousness and behaviour. It is my understanding that the use of the cilice in the Opus Dei cult puts the body under great stress, causing it to release adrenaline and serotonin, which can induce a psychological
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QuoteFairytalePS: I also can quote testimony of young people who was adviced to get away of their families because their lack of faith in the OD was "obstructing their path to God's true will." Opus Dei, like many other cults, tries to cut cult members off from non-cult members, physically, psychologically and emotionally. That way they come to depend heavily on the cult from
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QuoteFairytale First of all, I believe that even if the OD is officially part of the Cath. Church, it fits in the description of a cult. This is correct. There are a number of cults in the Catholic Church, Opus Dei being the most powerful. QuoteFairytale So, since he is worshipped next to Jesus -I saw it- many devotees want to emulate their "Master" by doing the same. This is correc
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QuotecarlJust that the movie came out, you konw, about them, so everyone's giving it a hard time. Its not like they open for membership eitehr. The Opus Dei cult had image problems long before The Da Vinci Code came out. Please see: .
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QuoteGimlikun For instance, people fast all the time in Christianity. It is a very well known activity. It can also be very painful though. This is especially prevalent in fasts lasting more than one day (which can even lead some to a semi-hallucinatory state). There is a distinct difference between fasting and the intentional infliction of pain. In fasting, whether it is in Islam, Christ
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Quotecounselor47Nevertheless, they use as countering commentary clips of Mike Papantonio's ultra left-wing Air America Radio program. Political scientists generally define 'ultra left-wing' as those who espouse Maoist-type governance, which involves cultic activities similar to the Cultural Revolution. Air America radio does not espouse such activities.
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Quotecounselor47 For a genuinely thoughtful discussion of these issues I recommend the following article from First Things: Background note: It should be noted that the publication First Things has been linked to the Opus Dei cult, which is deeply embedded in the Catholic Church.
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QuoteshaktiMjr, I'm sure your intentions are good, but I think you have been sent on a wild goose chase by disinformation specialists. The physics involved is neutral; the formula for describing the acceleration due to gravity was well documented well before 9/11. Thus the information was around before anyone was applying it to the WTC. For the record, 7 WTC also went into freefall c
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QuotezeldarI do not buy into conspiracy theories. Also it seems the only example you keep giving is the one about Hitler. Please note that the physics involved is not theoretical; it has been documented for several hundred years: A second example would be the Gulf of Tonkin "incident", one that was completely fabricated as an excuse to launch the Vietnam War.
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Unfortunately, it sounds very much like a cult. Here are some ideas on positive action you can take. - Perhaps you can speak to the local police, since it may appear that she is being held against her will. If nothing else, they can go and inspect the property to talk to some of the people to get an idea of what is going on. - Maybe you can alert the county Health/Fire Commissioner th
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QuotezaflonIf you were put in charge of military training how would you go about it to obviate the cultic aspects of inculcation you disapprove of? Given that cultic groups and organizations are unhealthy for any given society and its constituent individuals, it follows that any militaristic/terroristic organization is unhealthy. As such, in order to have healthier individuals, one would nee
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Quotenaboth675 The whole thing was based on a military regime {albeit watered down} the moment the kids got off the bus he was there yelling at them at the top of his voice and demanding that they stand to attention. Apparently many of them think it's a joke for the first 10 seconds until he gets right in their faces. The idea is to give them a shock to the system and to 'break them
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Quotezeldar I would rather we take a stand now and not wait for the next attack and maybe having 6000 people die in that one. It would appear that you are assuming that the WTC collapsed as a result of the planes crashing into them. Please note that this assumption is not supported by the physics involved in the collapes. The physics clearly show that they were controlled demolitions. More i
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Quotezaflon These studies also show a significant number or combat troops actively avoid killing, by helping medics, moving ammo, or even shooting to miss the target etc. The figures seem to be constant through a number of conflicts from the second World War to the First Gulf War. I believe that you are referring to the rate at which soldiers actually firing weapons at other people. The psych
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QuoterajendranQuotemjr40Quoterajendran My MOS yielded nearly 30 hours of legitmate undergraduate credit for a bachelor's degree for general education and major specific credit. What university did you attend while you were in the military? I attended a state school in Illinois. It would appear that your education in the military was at a civilian university. As such, a civilian school
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QuotezeuszorOne of my drill sergeants back in AIT even admitted it to us; he said to my platoon one day that if recruiters told kids the truth about what they were about to get into, nobody's sign up, so as a practical matter, they HAVE to lie in order to make quota. This is most disturbing, but also very insightful. Lying and manipulation of the truth are primary parts of the recruitin
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QuotezeuszorIn fact, a lot of spiritually abusive churches thrive near militarty bases (NTCC and HOP are two examples) because of that same dynamic: value placed upon, and rewards for, conformity, uniformity, and unquestioned obedience to an authoritarian leader. Once again an excellent point. Opus Dei, a cult within the Catholic Church, also seeks out people who are in the military, precise
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Quotezaflon Are you a pacifist, or would you kill to defend yourself? This has nothing to do with the cultic psychology used in military training in militaries and armed irregulars throughout the world.
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Quotezeuszor In civilian-speak, I was discharged and sent home from Iraq ahead of my unit due to my "personality disorder". (and I was a medic; we're typically smarter) They (my COC) had a guy on their hands (me) who refused to totally give away his critical-thinking skills and was beyond giving a f**k about their reward/punishment games. Once again an excellent post. You br
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QuotezeuszorThe youth of today ought to do their patriotic duty and REFUSE military service, not participate in it. 80% of the NCOs I knew in my old unit (the most specific I'll get is to say that I was in the 3rd ID and am a veteran of OIF 3) were total sadistic a**holes. The abuse they put their soldiers through has nothing to do with their ideas of "discipline" or "respec
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QuotekathDon't knock it till you've tried it. Lots of people like sports of various kinds using guns. For the purposes of this discussion, let us assume that firing guns is fun, and even hunting animals is fun. Assuming that these are in fact the case, it is still a major psychological shift to go from shooting targets/animals to human beings. The only way this shift can occur i
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Quotekath Getting young men to stay out of fights is more of a problem half the time. Excellent point. Instead of using propoganda to get young men to join the military where they are subjected to cultic psychology to hone their natural aggressions into killer instincts, perhaps we should be teaching them how to constructively deal with conflicts through discussion and compromise.
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QuoteandycheeThats how they got guys to go fight terrorists in Iraq. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can alwa
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