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15 days ago
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It is good to sit back and watch the show with some popcorn without being invested in it. When you are no longer part of the mental hospital and can see through the BS. What a liberation. How fortunate we are. We could be still in the prison and truly see TG as a pure devotee, feel we need to bow to her. Feeing proud that one of us is in high places. All that crap for some transcendental
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5 weeks ago
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Let me tell you what the ultimate psychosis is: Spiritual masochism. Bowing down to deities who explain to you in 500000000 million pages how they enslave you life after life. The day you let go of the fear of these deities, you will be disgusted with yourself for all the times you out your forehead on the ground ons dirty places such as the kitchen of a retreat. All the times you got sick b
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5 weeks ago
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Let me tell you how souls are kept in a spiritual prison. All paths tell you not to look at other theories or religions. Jesus in the only way. Islam is it. Krishna consciousness is the top of the line. Never look at other theories. You will go to hell. In this way, people keep swimming in a pool. Never knowing there is an ocean out there. And that you must dare stepping out of the comfor
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5 weeks ago
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Astral projection is not such a big deal and many people are able to do it. No I have not taken LSD. I can only speak from my experiences since I was a kid. And Krishna Consciousness just sucked me in like a vortex. Both with the internal feelings and the supernatural. This has been something others shared with me too. I also listen to many stories as to how people were driven to Islam or C
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6 weeks ago
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By the way do not forget something important. What made butler leave the LSD and astral projection yogi life? He, himself was lured into the path via the bliss and mystical experiences. He himself felt for the so called love for god. That cocaine nectar of Krishna consciousness. I don’t think he just faked it to become guru. Ultimately followers also suck the energy of teachers. The who
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6 weeks ago
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Run Forest Run I think you are dedicated and selfless when it comes to trying and help others not to fall into traps. It is sad what we are able to put up with in such settings. When you leave you realize what the fear, going beyond your limits… did to your body and mind. Yes Universal justice may only work through us. We cannot sit and wait for Karma to work in 20 lifetimes. We live in an
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6 weeks ago
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Krishna and butler have a nice way of occupying the mind like some parasites you cannot flush. Even after decades. Think about it. All the best.
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6 weeks ago
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What I have realized with all religions, is that They push you to accept and glorify the position of a beggar. In this way you can easily accept your fate without questioning or rebelling. I have heard Catholics say that god allows demon possession. Can you imagine that? It is not just Krishna consciousness that encourages the spiritual masochism. It is just much worse than the other reli
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6 weeks ago
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Butler has never been qualified to be a bhakti guru. His heart, mind and soul have always been polluted. He should have just been a regular devotee in the Krishna consciousness mental hospital. Like so many other narcissists and broken people who roam cults. He is an amazing actor and manipulator. He was able to pull this crap because of the transcendental and mystical experiences of his foll
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7 weeks ago
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Maybe all American ex cult members should write to congress as someone else did. To warn them that butler is the dude who runs the show and not Tulsi. 50 letters are better than one.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
3 months ago
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Unfortunately it is impossible to completely forget the miseries of SoI when you see Tulsi’s face on the net every single day. I was thinking that Butler did a great job creating this persona with his strategies. Sending her to the Army to make her pass for a hero. Picking a female with a good amount of male energy and confidence. The process of Bhakti Yoga consists of detaching totally from
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11 months ago
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It has been a long time since I last posted in here. It almost makes me laugh to think how abuse can turn the mind of a person into such a lunatic state. I say laugh, because abusers are not worth being taken so seriously. There were times I almost envied the life of people in the cult who had it easy and were not used and abused. Missed the safety of the group and the few so called decent friend
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1 year ago
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I have had some time to reflect upon the dynamics of abuse. Spiritual abuse is a much deeper wound than material. And ultimately abuse is meant to bring us down to the lower self. You start harboring all kinds of feelings within and at one point you will even become an abuser yourself. After I left this forum, I tried my best to find a way to delete all my posts here. Because when I posted h
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1 year ago
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All these posts were written under a very fragile, irrational mental state. I have experienced more trauma and loss than most humans can stand in a lifetime. Anger and revenge kept me alive in the past years. SOI has destroyed my life but I take ownership of my actions and loss of control of my mind. SOI had too much power over me and it kept me prisoner for 22 years. No amount of posts can
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1 year ago
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This is the greatest realization about butler. How great to be narcissist who pretends to be an empath savior. He never talks about himself. Therefore he cannot be seen as a narcissist. He speaks of krishna alone. Krishna who wants all attention on him. As a guru noone can wound his narcissism because you are not allowed to criticize him. Absolute narcissistic heaven. Worshipping the narci
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1 year ago
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When you isolate for a while, the slightest human contact you have throws you off. Like even online, where people think because they cannot see you, they can trash you like garbage. You realize how mcuh happier and more sane life can be without contact versus contact. All that SoI does, it makes you immune to the abuse and nasty interactions between devotees. By forcing you to suppress ego
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1 year ago
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Listen. Many of us were forced to take abuse for years and not take it personally in the cult. Do not assume that there is no heart or feelings behind the screen. Let us keep it civil. You do not need to remind me of my faults or my mebtal state. I am aware of it more than some strangers and working hatd to correct the issues. Now please contiune sharing your knowledge. Iskcon is your depar
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1 year ago
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You see. Nothing matters to the devotee but to transfer to vaikuntha. This escapism spirit and the obsession with liberation gives them the courage to stand torture. The rewards are greater than the pain. This is why noone should feel bad for them. It is a choice and a gamble. Maybe there is a vaikuntha at the end of the road. We will never know because we have not accepted the torture.
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1 year ago
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Yes stick to the rotten pedophiles of the rotten Iskcon isntitution. The forum is yours maestro.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
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Butler is an agent of destruction. He destroys your health, your spiritual life, your life, your finances, your self esteem, your mind. Some are sent to use and abuse others. And he runs a program that he himself cannot grasp. The hare krishnas are too intoxicated by the false sense of being god chosen ones. They are too blinded to see that their loving guru us actually their ennemy. He i
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1 year ago
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As long as you keep your blunt opinions to yourself, I don’t care what you talk about. Just know that this was the absolute last time you ever take the liberty to attack me perosonally. This is all I have to say. And the last time I say it.
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1 year ago
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Noone should be allowed to attack anybody personally. Suggest they need therapy, tell them to leave the forum… This is only a right that Rick has. This forum is not meant for dictatorship. This has to be hammered in the head of all those who post here. Be it Isckon or SoI members as well as hybrids. I have no fear of getting banned the same way I had no fear of being shunned and lesave my
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1 year ago
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Do not forget that mental illness and narcissism is only a prviledge given to the Acrayas of the Hare Krishna movement and offshoots. They are the only ones who can act as they wish and have their feet kissed and washed. The rest of us lowly souls must watch very carefully what we say and how we act. Or else the devotee police will soon knock on your door. Make sure they shame and ban you fo
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1 year ago
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According to mr Iskcon hare krishna expert this is what I do on this forum. Truth wins, I have to be blunt with you now: I really wish you would not ramble all over this thread the way you ramble all over the Butler thread. I've been watching you do that for a long time, and I wish you would not do that here. The blunt truth is I do not give one single damn. After years of wal
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1 year ago
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And I do not need to be an ex Iskcon member to see what a horrible insitution it is. My comment is not so off. Devotees can very well stand for injustices. I will let you educate everybody on Isckon. I had no intention of rambling. Do not worry. I am sick of arguing with total strangers on the bet anyway. To hell with Krishna consciousness. Have a wonderful week.
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1 year ago
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Nice to see you again whirliwind under a different user name. Please do not play alpha dog with me. I am not really in the mood for that stuff. Let Rick decide to chastize the members. I am giving you a very gentle warning. Get off my back.
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1 year ago
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“In a religious cult, the leader is perceived as a deity who is always divinely right, and the devotee, always on the verge of being sinfully wrong, comes to live for the sole purpose of pleasing and avoiding displeasing the guru/god. The leader's displeasure comes to mean for the member that he is unworthy, monstrously defective, and, therefore, dispensable. The member has been conditione
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1 year ago
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The problem is that so called devotees are to bust bowing down and blissing out in order to battle the demons within the institutions. Because the greatest demons are they gurus who sit on the chair. They are too blind to see and THY SHALL NOT JUDGE other devotees or commit offenses. Thy shall never question guru even if he is an abuser. Dsicernment is not encouraged snd peoole live in fear
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1 year ago
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You know. I have seen behind the veil of illusion. It is not for the faint at heart. Your whole world gets shattered. Including the sweet flowery words of any scriptures. I can assure you that this reality goes 10000000 times deeper than what the vedas tell us. It is not just because it has fallen into the hands of some surfer dudes who are unqualified. Even the Narayana Maharaja more adva
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1 year ago
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The goverment puts you in jail if you don’t pay taxes and obey. The gods put you in a reincarceration jail if you do not worship, love and accept your eternal slavery (servitude is more appealing). Who is butler? An amazing tax collector for the gods. A tyrant who keeps you in your place as a slave. He makes you love your slavery and pushes you to offer your soul on a golden platter. Do you
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