Forgoing groceries... Posted by: Chachakitty Date: November 25, 2019 02:57PM And Gary is very much living in reality. He already knew the cult was going to end prior to Shalom's post. Peaced out and is going to something different. No remorse. Bc he knew the hold time he was leading members in a fantasy world while in reality here on earth he was playing King and taking everyone’s mo
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Imapurple wrote: Also them showing me a check for 30k that someone had just given them. Possible response that is unlikely to be well-received: 'Wow--that's fantastic! God is helping you help fund the Shiloh Senior Center!!'
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Cruelty was the order of the day, Reep. Oh well, Marilyn is gone...and Gary has moved on to a higher calling he created. Posted by: Imapurple Date: November 01, 2019 10:52AM Seeing Donna in the middle yard with the baby while G&M were beginning their relationship ( while JRS was in bed dying) was heartbreaking. I remember one time while in Shiloh G&M putting Donna down and thin
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that little red flag wrote: Long story short, come Monday after they had left, I was directed to gather and repackage everything, even if it had been used and return it all for a refund. Well, knowing what we know now, I think your response to this directive should have been: "I don't want your shit on my calendar!" :) Posted by: I_woke_up Date: September 07, 2018 06:08PM
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changedagain Wrote: -------------------------------------------- Our Survival Is Based On Obedience June 29, 2018 - by Gary Hargrave "This Word shows us that as we move out of a place of relative safety in our walk with God and into harm’s way, our obedience to the Father will determine life or death. We will face lies about the Word of God and against the Father Himself which w
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion wrote: > My cousin in Iowa shared with me that the > English River offshoot of Shiloh, had an email > from Steve Seboldt (which was read aloud in their > Zoom service) where he said TLW is moving to > Georgia. He also said the TLW properties in > California are all up for sale. He also
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Onion wrote: My cousin in Iowa shared with me that the English River offshoot of Shiloh, had an email from Steve Seboldt (which was read aloud in their Zoom service) where he said TLW is moving to Georgia. He also said the TLW properties in California are all up for sale. He also congratulated them on continuing to have services. He also asked for money. Also, the house in Kalona where Chris an
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Confirming Changedagain's info: News Flash (or maybe just new news to me). My cousin in Iowa shared with me that the English River offshoot of Shiloh, had an email from Steve Seboldt (which was read aloud in their Zoom service) where he said TLW is moving to Georgia. He also said the TLW properties in California are all up for sale. He also congratulated them on continuing to have serv
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Were those songs sung at the Shiloh siege in '79? I meant 'Victory Siege' :)
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Were those songs sung at the Shiloh siege in '79?
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kbyrne wrote: After what happened last week, I thought about how much we used the word "violence" in the walk. "The violent take the kingdom by force." Not intercession, but "violent" intercession. And praying for the death of people, I don't know, because they didn't agree with us? I wonder if this was a theme in other churches as well. In the mid-l
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]Zillow link Attempting to put in a link to the Shiloh University property which is on the market. My understanding is that SU has joined a school in CA. C & M Reeves have sold their home and are moving to CA with the school.
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C H A N G E D "When folks in Shiloh wanted to do the same thing, Rick shut it down." I heard from a very reliable source that RICK DISNEY hated any idea that was not his, or that he could not steal the credit for. A true shepherds heart.
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Gosh. If the public really knew why. > > Here's a post by 'Sarge' from approximately five years ago, regarding the origin of the Christmas truck: Posted by: TheSarge Date: December 13, 2015 12:20AM In reading Lorena's quote, to be fair, she didn't say she helped create t
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Posted by: Onion Date: October 20, 2018 10:42AM Since Gary has announced he wants people to write letters so he can make his "new 360" evaluation, I decided to send him a letter. I don't have any illusions that he will do anything with this information but I at least wanted to take away his ability to say he had never heard of any of this stuff, as he lied about recently. O
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October 2018 posts continued... Posted by: changedagain Date: October 17, 2018 09:29AM I plan to have a few friends over at my place next week, former members of TLWF. It's been a long time since I socialized with anyone, so I'm a bit rusty at this. I did email a few parameters that I expect they will agree to before arriving. I hope what I wrote (below) is not in any way offen
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kBOY wrote: After we easily dismissed so many other 'false prophecies', the resurrection life issue was probably second only to no 'kingdom' appearing on the scene in 1979. A few posts in this forum (there are many) that mention the non-arrival of the Kingdom in 1979, and the refusal of leaders to acknowledge any errors in their prophesies: Posted by: paleface Date: M
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Hi I have been reading these posts for a couple of years now. I have cried and laughed at many of them.I am originially from Ohio. First Columbiana, then Reynoldsburg, under Jim Holbrook. That is where I met JRS, Conquest,Greir, and the list goes on.After several years in Reynoldsburg I was sent to Shiloh. After a few months there I went to DC under Dan Statton, that is where my "Walk"
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I have spent a lot of time reading many people’s stories and experiences within the cult that was/is The Living Word Fellowship. It is horrible, disgusting, and I am so sorry for all of those it has impacted. Thank you to so many who have shared. I sincerely hope as you move forward from these experiences you are able to find peace, healing, and justice. I know many people that have also share
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Have you seen recent photos of Jonestown? Not much is left. The jungle has reclaimed it. It has been erased. That’s my vision for Shiloh.
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CARe wrote: One of the KVF fireman asked me last week if I knew any former or current congregants that would be disgruntled enough to shoot at them when they light it (Shiloh) up!?! I was shocked at the question and my first reaction from years of conditioning was, "oh it wasn't THAT bad" I stopped myself from saying it out loud. I told him that I honestly cannot think of anyone t
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I have watched and read postings regarding Shiloh being burned to ground. My hope is we all move on from a very strange cult experience. I am recognizing there are so many heroes, just not who we thought they would be. The people who got up each day and tried to do the right thing in an impossible environment. There will be healing. It took many years for me to realize the BS I was listening to.
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Posted by: Altar_Kent Date: February 23, 2004 03:18PM Is anyone familiar with this movement? It is based in Kalona Iowa at a camp/compound called Shiloh. IT is primarily located in the United states, but also has churches in Brazil and japan. It was founded by John Robert Stevens and first called the walk. Stevens came out of the Latter Rain movement, built quite a congregation, and then die
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TheJewel wrote: Bummer. When I was in the San Diego (Coniah) church in the process elf “blowing out” one of the then “ministries” (Stuart Robison - if I remember correctly) said I needed to spend some time at Shiloh and get a “revelation” of what the lord was doing. Looks like I procrastinated too long - it’s too late now. You snooze, you lose, I guess. Funny, TheJewel. I'm sure there w
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > CARe wrote: > Sometimes I would briefly wonder why she was > always in his apt and wondered if she had a room > in his apt??? > > Perhaps a safe room where she could practice > putting on bras and taking them off? Just > speculating. Bummer. When I was in the San Diego (Coniah) ch
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One of the KVF fireman asked me last week if I knew any former or current congregants that would be disgruntled enough to shoot at them when they light it (Shiloh) up!?! I was shocked at the question and my first reaction from years of conditioning was, "oh it wasn't THAT bad" I stopped myself from saying it out loud. I told him that I honestly cannot think of anyone that would. Bu
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Shiloh has been torched.
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Well, it wasn't lightning, but it will do... From November of 2019: Posted by: Imapurple Date: November 26, 2019 07:23PM I was standing outside with JRS one late night at Shiloh and he was looking at the water tower and he said , one day lightning is going to hit that thing and this whole damn place is going to burn down. Well, maybe it’s wasn’t lightning but it’s sure burning down.
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Two of my favorite harsh comments of all time: "I don't want your sh*t on my calendar"--Shiloh pastor's wife "Who give a f**k about Christmas?"--First Lady /s from September of 2018: Posted by: I_woke_up Date: September 07, 2018 06:08PM Oh, I forgot to add.. During all this.. when planning a dinner out with the lead pastors of Shiloh, my husband was go
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The Jerusalem article is a stunner. Not in the sense that term is usually used. I am stunned that Gary Hargrave is now falsely making a foundational aspect of his ministry that he is a giver. WHAT?! Now there is news he gave Palmer Lake to the local community. And it is burning? Is that part of a purposeful demolition? just like Shiloh. Except we know he and other investors will still
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