I just watched the film by Macie Chadwick about her abuse in Grand Junction Colorado and I started shaking because I was there for awhile. I hope if she is here she will pm me because I often wondered why people were shipped shipped to GJ when they messed up in Shiloh. I need to know if my dad at any time was involved in any of this. He's not alive today to talk to and I miss him so much
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A few posts from Imapurple: Posted by: Imapurple Date: May 27, 2019 08:20PM So All of this is very interesting. So much history, so much hurt. I’m new to this but have been reading it for years. I was VERY involved in the back side of all this with JRS , G&M , Rick and everything that was going on at Blix, CLW, TLW and Shiloh. I just want to say I have so much love for so many and kno
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I came across this article today: 'The Ashes of Shiloh' link:
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A few references to the infamous coffee table in this forum some years ago: Posted by: JesusJesusJesus Date: December 24, 2018 08:43AM excerpt: As for the furniture reference - I don't know about the coffee table of Israel, but I do vividly remember the whole fellowship raising funds for some big birthday that G was having. All he wanted was this expensive, ornate coffee table with
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Posts by 'cultfree' from August 2018: Posted by: cultfree Date: August 24, 2018 12:10PM I feel nothing but outrage over the word on hierarchy. As Reveal so eloquently pointed out, hierarchy is the fabric of TLWF. The part of it that really gets to me is that what Gary is doing here is basically acknowledging that up until now, the church has operated on a hierarchy. That hier
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Katnmouse91265, sounds likes you weathered many very difficult situations at a young age. I remember Lee and Becky Baily. Were they running the school? Hard to imagine. Yes, there are still a few areas where former Walk churches are still affiliated with Gary Hargrave and still study JRS teachings. One is in the San Fernando Valley in California. Another small group of what's left from Sh
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I was 12 years old when I went to go live with my dad in Hawaii. He was a pastor for the church on Maui. This was in 1977 I think. While in Hawaii I thought that the church was fine, thought it was "different" then anything I had ever been to. The fact that people would leave the church and go out on the steps and smoke or drink right on the steps of the church. I could see the app
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A few posts from September of 2015: Posted by: slandjt Date: September 17, 2015 09:45PM (excerpt) I've been reading these posts for a couple of years and thought I would weigh in now. I came into the Walk as an impressionable young teenager in the late 60s. My parents actually came to a service and then told me I couldn't go any more. I was told by the church pastor and elders
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Haven’t posted for a while but I just finished a book that some might want to take a look at. The title is “Uncultured” by Daniella Mestyanek Young. Daniella was born into the Children of God Cult apparently now called “The Family” and the book chronicles what she went through, how she got out and made a life for herself and career as an army officer and now a successful lecturer and author. I
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Reshaping the narrative as needed... Posted by: Saw enough Date: November 03, 2015 04:13AM What Larry Bobo said about a Shiloh pastor being interviewed and saying he could not recall praying for John’s resurrection was an example of LWF authority just reshaping their narratives for their own convenience. Every civilization develops its narratives – its creation stories, genealogies, st
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A post from Imapurple approximately three years ago: Posted by: Imapurple Date: November 27, 2019 10:23AM I was standing outside with JRS one late night at Shiloh and he was looking at the water tower and he said , one day lightning is going to hit that thing and this whole damn place is going to burn down. Well, maybe it’s wasn’t lightning but it’s sure burning down. I truly believe that
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Responding to an overture of 'reconciliation.' A few posts from late August 31, 2019: Posted by: changedagain Date: August 29, 2019 12:48PM I woke up wrote: There are now pastors wives posting on Shalom’s FB post. On one hand I believe they think they mean well and they believe what they say... on the other hand, I feel they did not post without first getting permission from t
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ThecalledmeJonah wrote: I was talking to Craig about a band that I was going to start playing with, and he said "Don't tell me you're gonna go out and become a fucking musician. That's not who you are." This really fucked with me. He obviously didn't want me spending time outside of Shiloh. I'm not sure if I necessarily agree with Pastor Craig's take,
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I was watching the online video of the torching of Shiloh and began thinking of all the folks that lost their place…. I had heard a North Liberty group had been meeting. Does anyone know if they are officially connected to TLWF? Who is shepherding the flock? Thank you for any info … feel free to private message if you feel more comfortable. Cheers, LiamThomasusa
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Posts by Aleutian and Reachingforward: Posted by: Aleutian Date: January 10, 2019 12:12PM I recently recalled a time I was volunteering working on ¨G and M´s¨ luxury home on Oahu in Hawaii. It was a hot summer day, and I didn´t bring any sunscreen. I had the nerve to ask for some. After all, I was working for free. Instead of them helping me, they called for their ¨handler¨ at the time
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A thread from November 8-10, 2019: Posted by: 40yearsin2016 Date: November 08, 2019 03:04PM Hey Onion, Glad you're here, and glad you're giving a little energy to speaking the truth to deception. It took me decades to speak the word "cult" out loud. I was walked out of LWF in 1984-5 (cannot remember exactly, those years were so traumatic). I didn't speak the
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Liamthomasusa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tony was a stalker of young men and teens way back > in the days he was “overseeing the booth at > Shiloh. I could never understand why JRS and then > Hargrave covered and protected him. Unconscionable
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Tony was a stalker of young men and teens way back in the days he was “overseeing the booth at Shiloh. I could never understand why JRS and then Hargrave covered and protected him. His tortured soul be at peace and resolute healing be for all those he had pursued.
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Good to hear from you, seventies walker. Posted by: seventies walker Date: August 14, 2017 05:24PM First time I am posting. I have been reading and following some of the threads with interest off and on for years My name is David N. I left Frangipane's fellowship in Michigan in 1979.I had been there since 1973 when Gruenberg started the local church.I never spoke to Francis agai
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Posted by: Imapurple () Date: November 28, 2019 10:38AM Interesting. JRS held onto all the coins from all the offerings for many years so I wouldn’t be surprised if a Sh*t load ended up in Shiloh. I know they must have come and cleaned out many of the valuable items like Van Dyke paintings, guns and so forth way before all This started.... Posted by: Onion () Date: November 28, 2019 12:
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Oct 31-Nov 1 of 2020: Posted by: Wasted Date: October 31, 2020 06:28AM I have spent a lot of time reading many people’s stories and experiences within the cult that was/is The Living Word Fellowship. It is horrible, disgusting, and I am so sorry for all of those it has impacted. Thank you to so many who have shared. I sincerely hope as you move forward from these experiences you are able
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How it all started. The post that triggered this very long (17+ years) discussion: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Altar_Kent Date: February 23, 2004 03:18PM Is anyone familiar with this movement? It is based in Kalona Iowa at a camp/compound called Shiloh. IT is primarily located in the United states, but also has churches in Brazil and japan. It was
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I would like to read about any and all personal experiences with Jim and Sue Reling. About how the Library at the Sepulveda church came about and any personal experiences at the Cohasset house. Any experiences at the Printing shop ran by Jim Reling. Besides the arranged marriages has anyone experienced arranged adoptions or relocation. Experiences with Jim and Donna West and their
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A post by 'Saw enough' from November 2015: Posted by: Saw enough Date: November 03, 2015 04:13AM What Larry Bobo said about a Shiloh pastor being interviewed and saying he could not recall praying for John’s resurrection was an example of LWF authority just reshaping their narratives for their own convenience. Every civilization develops its narratives – its creation storie
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe the public at large should be alerted to the > fact that the Center of the Universe (not just the > Center of the World or the Galaxy, mind you) has > been burned to the ground due to foundation > issues. You know, in case they want to stockpile > dried soybeans for the last days or somethin
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ForgottenIA wrote: JRS reportedly referred to Shiloh as “the center of the universe”. Whether that was implied spiritually, or in regards to the organization’s operations; it became the center of many followers’ universes. A few posts that reference the 'center of the universe' (COTU) in this forum: Posted by: Reepicheep Date: September 29, 2019 09:03AM changedagain wrote:
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"There has been a lot of work on the Shiloh Cemetery (which is now called the Memorial Park). I'd get asked constantly to work all day on a Saturday and you say yes, because you don't feel the freedom to say no, even when pastors and leaders are constantly saying 'Don't do anything if you feel obligated.'" That right there. Not only were we made to feel oblig
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found a way out... Posted by: TheycalledmeJonah Date: January 05, 2018 06:10AM Hey All, I've been a lurker for many months now, and I finally got an account. I'm hoping I can add a bit to the conversation since I have only very recently left the church. In fact, this Sunday will be my first time going to a non-TLWF church on my own accord. I am a young man in my mid 20's
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A post by 'PowerTrip' on 12/25/2019: Posted by: PowerTrip Date: December 25, 2019 03:03AM Dear All, First of all I want to wish everybody happy holidays. I wanted to say a big thanks to everybody on this group. We might have meet before or not but there is definitely one thing we can all connect, survivors from the hands of predators that believe they are above the law and sp
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Posts by Onion and Larry Bobo from October 2018: Posted by: Onion Date: October 20, 2018 10:42AM Since Gary has announced he wants people to write letters so he can make his "new 360" evaluation, I decided to send him a letter. I don't have any illusions that he will do anything with this information but I at least wanted to take away his ability to say he had never heard of
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