Notice how these very damaging LGAT seminars all use similar methods in how they damage their own customers, as proven in the waivers they force their own people to sign before attending their LGAT seminar. MKP ManKind Project Participant Agreements: Assumption of Risk, Indemnification & Release New Warrior Training Adventure (link to release waivers) James Ray International:
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@ curiousnycgirl How many reported deaths are enough? How do you know how many suicides have occured related to MKP events, and the depression that can hit after these types of LGAT seminars? There are many suicides/psychoses/hospitalization that occur after these types of abusive seminars, its just that most of them never hit the media, and are only known by the family, and reported by t
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Also, forgot to include... The handbook I have says that families are supposed to be welcomed at the door, and also refers to a toast. I wonder if there is a new version of the handbook that leaves these out, or if people just stopped doing it. Neither of these things happened when I went: "Recruit a team of men to greet all New Warrior Brothers and their guests... Toasting & Bless
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curiousnycgirl, I'm so, sooo sorry for your experience at the graduation / "homecoming". I definitely felt VERY upset when my husband came home talking a lot about 'not being alone any more.' We've been married for over 10 years, I gave birth to his two children, seriously, was he really "alone"? And if so, shouldn't he be talking to me and not them
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Anticult I appreciate your passion on this subject, however I have not been able to find any factual documentation to support that MKP is a pyramid scheme, multi level marketing, or any other profit making enterprise. If you have proof of such I would appreciate your sharing it. Please also explain how the tragic deaths in another oganization's sweat lodges can be attributed to this or
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By the way, it appears that MKP at first used a little material from Robert Bly, Robert L. Moore, and Douglas Gillette, concerning the "men's movement". In reality, that "men's movement" material is now a front, a distraction. Obviously to the trained-eye, MKP has taken massive amounts of techniques from LGAT seminars, and other deceptive and manipulative methods
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Don't forget that MKP exists to extract increasingly large amounts of money from those who attend, their endless cycle of MKP seminars. All of the marketing and sales talk about healing relationships is a sham, as can be seen time and time again, in how MKP damages relationships. MKP is a very sophisticated LGAT seminar, which literally BOMBARDS men who have no training in these areas
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It's roughly a month since my b/f went to his NWT weekend. He called me as soon as he had cell service again, and then he called as soon as he got home. He wanted to share his feelings and experiences from the weekend with me. He did not feel prohibited from sharing - but did feel that he was still processing some things and was not ready to tell me. In a nutshell he thought it was the m
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I actually can say from what I've read (and being no fan of MKP at this point), that it does seem like individual local groups, and i-groups within them, seem to be pretty free to make adjustments as they like. This seems to hold up within MKPs own literature as well. Even the very detailed prescription for every action over the weekend has a few places where people can decide how they'
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rrmoderator Thank you for your reply. While I have not read the entire thread yet, I am aware of the controversy, lawsuit and bad press out there. I trust your organisation bases the opinions on research and facts, hence I am interested to understand more. All I can state from my side is my experience and my personal (current) opinion. I am not advocating anything, and me visiting the forums i
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ObservingWolf: Before posting again you might want to read this thread from the beginning. There is quite a lot here. Specifically, the analysis of the MKP manual and how it seems to parallel coercive persuasion techniques. The secrecy at MKP appears to be more about manipulation than anything else. That is, keeping the participant ignorant of what is actually going on. MKP is q
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Hi Having been a participant, I can't say I've seen or have been made aware of any enforced secrecy other then ensuring the processes are not shared with people that have NOT participated yet by MIGHT be participating in the future... as the weekend will not have the same impact. This kind of reinforces my theory that the cells migh have slightly different rules depending on where the
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Hi curiousnycgirl I am curious to know how your boyfriend's experience went that weekend, if you wouldn't mind sharing. I was on the other side of the fence wandering aimless at 35, doing good professionally but my life wasn't what I wanted it to be. Married to my high school sweetheart, was just about to walk away. So I went to MKP without any reasearch and expectation, in a way
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Got my hands on the weekend manual, and an answer to why it has to be secret: Quote1998 New Warrior Initiation Adventure Protocol BookAll of the processes we do are secret. It doesn't work to share it with others. Especially women, they wouldn't understand men's ritual. NOW I'M PISSED! At least I know how to use an apostrophe...
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Good luck with your boyfriend. My husband did the weekend a few weeks ago. I'm deeply hurt and troubled that: 1. The organization requires secrets be kept in a marriage 2. Anyone thinks it would be less "sacred" if it were shared (what does that say about me?) 3. He seems to be untroubled by secrets between us I have been alternately deeply saddened, frightened, and furiou
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I have read this thread in it's entirety and first and foremost I want to thank everyone who has contributed. Now to let you know what brought me here. My boyfriend of 5+ years and I broke up for three months in December - mostly due to the fact that he had become very hurtful/hateful and resentful to/of me and was unwilling to change/apologize. During our break his best friend told him
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A lot of concern is raised in these forums about rant, untrained amateurs applying psychotherapy on unwitting participants. This is especially so with Mankind Project (MK) on their New Warrior weekend after which there has even been suicides. Then there is the situation engineered by James Ray which resulted in a number of deaths caused by the appallingly run sweat lodge experiences.
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lcarter497: "floatingfreebear" was here as an apologist to spin whatever for MKP. His posts became redundant. He also fit the definition of an "Internet troll." If you came here to spin for MKP endlessly like he did you may be banned too.
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I have read the rules and the last couple of years of entries. At your suggestion I have just re-read his entries and the responses. I see name calling toward "floatingfreebear" from SeekingTruth (calling his perceptions "crap") and AntiCult (calling his perceptions "bullshit"), but not from him. I note that you warned him early on about staying on topic, but you did
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He broke the rules. Read the rules. Note the thread exchanges.
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QuoterrmoderatorTo whom it may concern: "floatingfreebear" has been banned from this message board. Can you explain the reason for this decision? Thanks.
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Mankind Project Mankind Project 'New Warrior Training' weekend - 1 Mankind Project 'New Warrior Training' weekend - 2 Mankind Project 'New Warrior Training' weekend - 3 Mankind Project 'New Warrior Training' weekend - 4 Mankind Project 'New Warrior Training' weekend - 5 Women Within ========
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These bunch of juvenile lunatics seem to be an amateur off shoot of the American College Greek fraternities and sororities. For many years these have been hazing vulnerable freshmen and young women at US Colleges, Universities, High Schools, in the Military, and in many (most?) sports teams. Many young people have died due to the heavy hazing that they've been subjected to as 'pledges.&
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Heh, heh - I heard via the ex-MKP grapevine that someone reported them to the Scouts and they got kicked out of their usual venue in a place called Stone in Staffordshire. Apparently they had used a Senior Scout Camp for their antics for years. However one weekend one of the scout leaders / parents saw a bunch of naked men running around in the woods and complained. All their bookings were then p
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In the UK comments, some MKP members try to make the standard comment that no one is blocked from leaving, and the like. This is the standard cult apologetics. Of course large organized cultish businesses don't openly physically restrain people anymore, you go to jail for that. But they use every technique known to man to control people, dozens of them. They are experts in engineerin
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A very good description of the deceptive wilderness LGAT seminar brainwashing session called MKP Mankind Project. The MKP secret "waivers" they shove on those men without a chance to read, prove that MKP knows exactly what they are doing to those men and the RISKS being taken. Those MKP waivers need to be posted and cross-posted all over the place, so people can read them in advance.
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Where have we heard all of this before? My (very) weird weekend with the naked woodland warriors who travel to remote England to 'reclaim their masculinity' By Tom Mitchelson How our man found himself with 65 naked men chanting, drumming - and screaming their rage against women to 'reclaim' their lost masculinity... ============ Tom signed up to the ManKind
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Human Awareness Institute and Challenge Day share many common principles, beliefs and goals. Challenge Day requests that this 'connection' not be spoken of outside the HAI community due to sensitivity about programs for schools being associated with workshops on love, intimacy and sexuality" (Editor: HAI Community Journal (HCJ), Nov/Dec 2002). Jeff Parrett, a current member
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Challenge Day: Bringing Transformational Workshops to a School Near You. By Frank Schwerin, MD Challenge Day is a California-based corporation that according to its handbook, "provides youth and their communities with experiential workshops and programs that demonstrate the possibility of love and connection through the celebration of diversity, truth and full expression" Th
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Yet another LGAT org. based on the principles behind the Mankind Project has surfaced in the UK. Any thoughts??
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