On the topic of Shiloh University: Posted by: Factoverfiction Date: December 06, 2015 02:53AM (excerpt) The development of Shiloh University is scaring me. They offer a worthless DEAC accreditation at the cost of over $20,000 with no financial aid. They are attempting to sell it as the equivalent of a community college education, when the credits are not remotely transferable in the way
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From December of 2015: Posted by: paleface Date: December 06, 2015 01:30AM Does anyone know when the prayers for the death of Martha Stevens started? Was it 1974 or so? Or was it earlier? Posted by: changedagain Date: December 06, 2015 02:21AM Not sure. It was in full swing when I joined in '76... BTW, I know some people get immersed in incompatible, hostile marriages--but l
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'Miranda's Last Gift'
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Arthur Brooks, The Atlantic: (not sure if this is the best approach toward sociopaths, though--who use 'openness' to gain leverage)
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Any individual demanding complete control over other people's lives must be thwarted. There's no quality of life without the presence of a functioning system of check & balances, which prevent wannabe tyrants from fulfilling their selfish ambition at the expense of nearly everyone else. Posted by: Reepicheep Date: May 17, 2019 07:43AM larry bobo wrote: I believe in most l
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Timothy Snyder, American historian:
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Philip Agre and his prediction:
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Emulating Kim Jong-Un. Note: again, the moderator can remove whatever content I post in this forum that he considers off-topic.
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These are perhaps the most unruly tourists I've ever seen: "I'll tell you when you get too radical" -JRS (paraphrased)
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A good friend of mine sent this clip to me today (link below). I think it is worth a listen. Again, the moderator can remove it if he considers it's too political for this forum:
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‘We Are Being Punished for Daring to Criticize the Authority’
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The connection between idolizing a dishonest, ego-driven leader and normalizing the use of violence against his perceived enemies. That would include his first wife, of course. Posted by: Lilith Date: October 03, 2023 04:23AM That was quite an eye-opening episode. The violence against JRS's wife Martha at the time described in her divorce filing was horrible, and the death prayers w
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A significant uptick in our stats. I don't think it's a coincidence that it happened shortly after TheJewel mentioned the John Birch society and Peter Beetr (sp), among other things. Page Views: 3,668,568 Comments: 12,569 Conspiracy Theorists: Unknown
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Too bad the 'door opener' didn't leave many of these doors shut. That would have been helpful. It would mean less nonsense for survivors of his 'ministry' to contend with. Reep wrote: And about the New Apostolic Reformation connection, I have often thought that JRS may have opened a door, but in a bad way.
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The genius of Bob Dylan--wow.
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Going back in time... Posted by: changedagain Date: June 12, 2011 01:21AM jhorning I've reached out recently to current members that I have known for years, but they won't talk about the walk or what is going on. They will not respond to me if I question what they are doing. John, The short answer is they probably believe they are on the right path, and having invested most
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If anyone is searching for a conversation-starting sweatshirt, I think I may have found one. Take a look. And no need to thank me. This is just one of the many things I do for people I care about:
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A little over four years ago: Posted by: that little red flag Date: January 05, 2020 05:56PM changedagain wrote: I think the main reason I was apprehensive about the level of intoxication within the ranks of 'ministries,' is that they were often assuming a role of managing (to put it lightly) people's lives. I've witnessed and also received truly bizarre directives fr
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Yeah, my turning point came when she was speaking from the pulpit at yet another long service in the Valley, a year or so before I finally left the cult. The Holy Spirit asked me if I had any idea what she was talking about. I said no. That was the totality of our 'conversation.' ;) Reep wrote: I'm so gratified to know, after so many years, that nobody else could follow Maril
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What to you like least about me? That you tend to make sense. Well, what can I do about that? Easy--I have in my possession a bunch of CD's where Marilyn speaks about the spirit realm. Just listen to them faithfully before you go to bed every night. You will be a changed person. For the better? If you have any suicidal thoughts, remember that is just the carnal mind being dest
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Thanks to TheJewel and Reep for weighing in on this matter--two posters who make sense. I don't consider that to be a negative attribute, btw. :)
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Came across this last night (below). It's recognizable because of what many of us experienced in the living word cult. Families torn apart over the issue of whether or not to serve a cult leader--who, of course, was presented falsely as an instrument of God, basically a savior for our country: @dutchessprim Confessions of a MAGA kid. It’s long but I know I’m not alone here. My da
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This is political in nature, so I won't be too upset if the moderator removes it. My response will likely just be limited to throwing some food against a wall, and perhaps tweeting something threatening that I hope my three twitter followers see. Actually, I'm pretty sure one of them is a bot, so make that two followers. PBS News Hour:
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A few posts from a long time ago: Posted by: changedagain Date: April 13, 2010 08:06AM Amos wrote: the problem is that the yardstick we used to measure change was given to us by people who forgot to use it on themselves first. The default mode (post-John) was to blame the people for things not working out. The "word" and directives were never the problem, of course. Nor was
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Do you think Taylor Swift is a channel of Satan? I really haven't given it much thought. Is this something I should be focusing on? Yes O.K. I'll put everything else aside, and make this top priority. I probably won't have time to help with that project at your house, though. What? I think you heard me. #NewPriority /s
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This sentiment certainly applies as we head into this year. Perhaps I should just add something like 'good luck.' :) Posted by: changedagain Date: January 05, 2021 11:54AM I think the many contributors to this forum through the years have done their best to facilitate healing, by (in part) sharing their personal experiences in TLWF...and revealing what paths they have took to im
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This looks interesting. The title will be released in a few days: The MAGA Diaries: My Surreal Adventures Inside the Right-Wing (And How I Got Out) Hardcover – January 16, 2024
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What? I wasn't aware of that. Onion wrote; Also evidenced by Rick's appointment to the Boards of Directors and commissioned oversight in L.A. especially regarding the schools where Rick had the authority to decide the amount of wages paid to teachers,
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from August of 2020: Posted by: Reepicheep Date: August 09, 2020 06:54AM It's really quite telling that Gary Hargrave, formerly "Apostolic Fathering Ministry" of The Living Word Fellowship, now simply of "Hargrave Ministries", is deleting the comments of his former congregants/slaves as quickly as they are posted. He probably isn't doing that himself. He prob
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