A few posts from a long time ago: Posted by: changedagain Date: April 13, 2010 08:06AM Amos wrote: the problem is that the yardstick we used to measure change was given to us by people who forgot to use it on themselves first. The default mode (post-John) was to blame the people for things not working out. The "word" and directives were never the problem, of course. Nor was
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Do you think Taylor Swift is a channel of Satan? I really haven't given it much thought. Is this something I should be focusing on? Yes O.K. I'll put everything else aside, and make this top priority. I probably won't have time to help with that project at your house, though. What? I think you heard me. #NewPriority /s
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This sentiment certainly applies as we head into this year. Perhaps I should just add something like 'good luck.' :) Posted by: changedagain Date: January 05, 2021 11:54AM I think the many contributors to this forum through the years have done their best to facilitate healing, by (in part) sharing their personal experiences in TLWF...and revealing what paths they have took to im
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This looks interesting. The title will be released in a few days: The MAGA Diaries: My Surreal Adventures Inside the Right-Wing (And How I Got Out) Hardcover – January 16, 2024
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What? I wasn't aware of that. Onion wrote; Also evidenced by Rick's appointment to the Boards of Directors and commissioned oversight in L.A. especially regarding the schools where Rick had the authority to decide the amount of wages paid to teachers,
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from August of 2020: Posted by: Reepicheep Date: August 09, 2020 06:54AM It's really quite telling that Gary Hargrave, formerly "Apostolic Fathering Ministry" of The Living Word Fellowship, now simply of "Hargrave Ministries", is deleting the comments of his former congregants/slaves as quickly as they are posted. He probably isn't doing that himself. He prob
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Thanks Reep, and I agree--we're not done.
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It's the thought that counts ;) Posted by: SunnyFord Date: August 12, 2019 01:38AM Road to Damascus Wrote: Next for years GH and MH sent out birthday and anniversary cards with a saying for the year. Soon after her funeral it was announced that the card would no longer go out, and a statement in passing was made that not everyone got them, and some times people who got them one
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The big phony vision: Posted by: changedagain Date: February 16, 2021 05:30AM Reep wrote: I, too, believed all of those things for many years, even after leaving the cult. And finally, I had to begin dealing with my own cognitive dissonance. Yes, the vision of the Kingdom John supposedly had back in '72, is a big one. Many life decisions were heavily influenced by that "visi
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A few posts from June-July of 2018. Posted by: changedagain Date: June 30, 2018 05:53PM FCSLC Wrote: The warnings and threats are what we hated the most. If you removed the element of fear, how many people would have remained in TLWF? The fear of losing protection from the mob boss in the sky, if nothing else, keeps people in line. Posted by: GoingRogue Date: July 01, 2018 06:4
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Finding Sanity in 2024: (Making Sense podcast)
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I suppose that is better than 'independent thinking will be punished!'
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Shiloh Learning 'Let us tell you how to think!' #MarketingFail
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What if there seems to be a conflict between science and the Bible. Which one should I believe? That's what your designated relationship is for. What is a designated relationship? You'll find out. No need to be concerned about that now. #NoWorries Shiloh Learning offers resources for the restoring of education to its biblical roots
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Any leader who has produced the opposite of this statement, over and over again, should not be given another chance. Now that would be in keeping with the "well-being of students, families and communities." May this long-time abuser fail in his latest effort to exploit more lives on behalf of selfish ambition. Parents--protect your children! "Shiloh Learning offers resources
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Wholly submit your lives to specific people who supposedly are God's representatives on earth? Yeah, I can see how this 'education' can lead to yet another authoritarian church movement, with leaders functioning with zero check and balances on their behavior. Hey parents, stay away from anything that involves Gary Hargrave. Protect your children's lives--it's your re
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A few posts from four years ago: Posted by: Aleutian Date: January 10, 2019 12:12PM I recently recalled a time I was volunteering working on ¨G and M´s¨ luxury home on Oahu in Hawaii. It was a hot summer day, and I didn´t bring any sunscreen. I had the nerve to ask for some. After all, I was working for free. Instead of them helping me, they called for their ¨handler¨ at the time to he
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Q & A continuted: You're not on good terms with a few former friends who are still supportive of the cult, is that correct? Yes, that is correct. But there is no hostility between us, at least to my knowledge. So you didn't recently send one of them a holiday card that read "May You Rot in Hell, Merry Christmas!" Of course not. I think you have me confused wit
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And now for something completely different-- answers to the question: buried or cremated?
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I think that was by design, TCMJ: TheyCalledMeJonah wrote: To me, this cycle has a few negative effects. One of the effects is when words come bringing some new concept of something we need to attain, we still haven't gotten the last thing that the pastor talked about. This always made me feel like I wasn't good enough, or couldn't grasp what they were bringing, and I felt like
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Yeah, he keeps coming back. I just hope he doesn't start channeling himself through Scott and Charity's podcast. I've been really enjoying it up to this point. Reep wrote: I remember that too, changedagain. I think he reappeared, didn't he? changedagain wrote: BTW, I recall Gary stating that John's death actually brought down Satan, which if people believe it
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A few more posts from January of 2018: Posted by: Reepicheep Date: January 08, 2018 07:53PM changedagain wrote: BTW, I recall Gary stating that John's death actually brought down Satan, which if people believe it, would make John even more revered (if that is possible). I remember that too, changedagain. I think he reappeared, didn't he? Also, I distinctly remember sermon
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If I recall correctly, as the year went on there was a lot more 'fur' flying in the forum. I did not instigate any of it, of course, since I somehow manage to always have a 'right spirit'--no matter the situation. Note: please do not fact-check this with my wife. Just take it by faith, O.K.? Thanks! Reepicheep Wrote: Excellent choices for reposting, Changed. I was loo
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A different perspective on JRS and his 'ministry'--from January of 2018: Posted by: acesandates Date: January 05, 2018 05:56PM All this bellyaching about the Apostolic ministry of John Robert Stevens. Regrets that you opened yourselves to the charismatic ecstasy of the living word flowing through him back then, especially in the late 60s and early 70s. JRS carried, indeed incarn
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This app cited continues to be helpful in my life. Posted by: changedagain Date: June 01, 2022 11:04AM Reep wrote: Anyway, thank you for all your hard work and concern for this place to learn and heal. Much appreciated, Reep. BTW, one thing that has helped me the past 3-4 years is having a consistent meditation practice. The app I use the most is Waking Up, created by Sam Harris.
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So sick, Reep. Good thing we never celebrated (officially) Christmas, since he might have been tempted to slay one of the reindeer in front of the kids. Hopefully, not Rudolph. Sadists will be sadists. I guess this even applies to hippies. Note: Fortunately, I never had the 'pleasure' of meeting this person you're referring to. Heard a lot about him, though--none of it good.
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What you see, you shouldn't trust. So that 400 lb guy on the platform wearing a Hawaiian shirt is not real? WHAT DID I JUST TELL YOU!! #HumorFailsUnlimited
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I need to get out of here, now! O.K.--you have two options. Iowa city or China. Uhh...it's probably a mistake, but I'm going with Iowa city. Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You'll laugh! You may cry. It will definitely make > you think. And then laugh some more. Be sure to > watch this end of the first season episod
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