TheSarge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Actually, she wouldn't have needed a will, I don't > think. She had a living trust, The Hargrave > Family Trust. All bank accounts, property titles, > stocks and bonds, everything would be put in the > name of the trust. Didn't Marilyn have a trust fund just in her name? Someone ment
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We all eventually got out, which is good. Kelly is obviously an excellent writer--an observant soul.
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I spent from 1976-1989 in the Redlands church...so, fortunately, I do not need to spend the $39 to discover how it turned out. Hint: not well
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here's to the new fleet: > > > deos/1107129089312301/ The thing I liked most about this video was spotting the Wells Fargo sign toward the end. It just lifted me out of a funk. Thanks for sharing KBOY! p.s. If you come across any Cult Country Line Dancing vids, feel free to share.
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paleface Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sarge - I hear the current party line at TLWF is > that "nothing has changed" regarding Gary's > leadership. I suspect Gary is winning any power > plays that may be going down. I don't think Rick > is interested in taking the helm of the pirate > ship. He'll just enjoy the
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Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wasn't it about 1963 when Marilyn was put over the > editing or whatever in Living Word? I think that > was about right. I know she supposedly had an > "abusive husband" but I also heard that her > husband's biggest offense was not having a real > revelation of John Robert St
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TheJewel Wrote: > In light of this, one thing I find amazing is the > Marylyn thing where TLW seems to come 180 degrees > from the original teaching in TLW of the woman > submitting to the man, the man being her covering, > etc. JRS must be rolling over in his grave ad a > rate of about 30 RPM with that. Cronquist must be > spinning at 1500 (in fact there must be occ
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This biblical scholarship stuff is driving me nuts. Could please get back into a discussion about country line dancing, or the McDougall diet? Thanks in advance.
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paleface Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Shiloh University is an on-line bible > school founded by this cult. If you pay the > tuition to enroll, just know what it is you are > signing up for. Yes, and in this cult there are many fine people with sincere hearts, not predatory in nature. However, they are controlled by the policies of a few pe
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Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Considering that Living Word Fellowship always had > more "ministries" than it did "sheep" it doesn't > surprise me if it has more teachers than it does > students in Shiloh U. > > It also wouldn't surprise me if most of them are > working for nothing. Sadly
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's possible that there are more administrators > and faculty than there are students. I'm just > sayin' . . . That crossed my mind, too.
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Jewel Yeah, I remember Jim as a nice guy as well, and very non-trippy. As far as the hard drive, my inclination is that it likely has do with a Nephilim assault. Not to be accusatory, but perhaps you did not provide it with an adequate covering.
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BTW, our little cult discussion group has now had 167,523 page views. Not that I pay attention to these type of things. Really.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here is all you need to know: > > > ators/ > Wow--there's quite a few people involved in administration. The salaries must add up. I wonder what the enrollment numbers are.
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changedagain Wrote: > we spend another day there should be: we would not spend another day there In light of this error, I am now considering reading my comments before posting them!
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When the auto-generated birthday cards quit > arriving I knew the end had come. Nothing says 'We Miss You' and 'We're Thinking about You' than an auto-generated birthday card!
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When the auto-generated birthday cards quit > arriving I knew the end had come. Ha
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Even though certain aspects may not necessarily > apply, there are obvious ones that do. > > How The Church Fails and Forgets Those Who > Leave > > > -outside-how-the-church-fails-and-forgets-those-wh > o-leave/ It's extremely doubtful that if we had any awareness, early on in o
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paleface Wrote: > Also, with the membership dwindling, the CoS has > refocused its efforts to acquiring real estate > assets instead of church members. Sound familiar? Hargrave Family Real Estate Ministries?
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Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was reading Reflections From the Wall, by > Woodrow Nichols. I saw something that I had never > heard of, he told about JRS doing something called > "the probe." What exactly is that? No idea--but I hope it was not a painful experience for the recipient.
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cultclassic Wrote: > I heard she moved to CA and just married someone > from her church out there, so I guess she meant > what she said. Does any of this sound familiar to > anyone? It sounds too familiar. Consider yourself fortunate, as kBOY noted. Marrying this girlfried would have likely led to becoming immersed in the cult...and then searching for answers after the fact.
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Aligning one's spirit with Dr. Peter D. Beeter... enough said.
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TheJewel Wrote: > JRS himself carried a membership card, I am pretty > sure that many of the key players in the walk at that > time were followers of the major conspiracy theorists of the > day and subscribed to a lot of their ideas. This > was particularly true of RD Cronquist. I know he > was following Dr. Peter D. Beeter (how do you get > a name like that?) who
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Not much going on today--just searching for my Franklin Planner. The last time I recall using it was 19 years ago, so my expectation of finding it is pretty low.
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Welcome TheJewel. I'm tempted to greet with you with a long, long slog of a post...but that will have to wait. I just don't have the energy right now.
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Unequal yoke--one partner worships Marilyn and Gary, the other does not. The one that does not loses God's favor, and is typically disposed of. Good for you Slandjt in managing to navigate your life through this mess! p.s. I stopped praying for the Alcoholic ministry many years ago. It's something I do not regret.
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larry bobo Wrote: > Granted, there was much wrong in the leadership. > However, the light for leadership errors needs to shine directly on > G & M who were directing everything, not the middle > management who were trained to be yes men. > Unfortunately, G & M have been exceptionally good > at evading responsibility and transferring it to > “false shepherds
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I think this line has earned you a seat at the Nephilim table. Have a great Monday! kBOY Wrote: > I know many may find this hard to accept, but the > Bible did not float down out of the sky > shrink-wrapped with a TLW bookcover already in > place.
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kBOY Wrote: > The ensuing G&M era witnessed a meandering journey > of multiple attempts at redefining a fellowship > that had lost any definitive direction. We went > from the McDougal diet, to Franklin Planners, in > and out of Country music, Marilyn Farms, being all > about Brazil, trips to Israel (and becoming more > Jewish), striking up associations with feath
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Thanks for your input, Slandjt. I understand your viewpoint regarding John. My wife was pastored by him when she first came into the church, and his zeal could run over people's lives. But, as kBoy pointed out, there is a quality in John that separates him from most of the rest of Apco, in that he actually is reflective on his impact on those he has shepherded, and willing to be accountabl
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