corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Did the 23andMe report slip say 'Ashkenazi > Jewish'? Yes. The category above it was British & Irish 70%, which was no surprise :)
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Reepicheep Wrote: > Agree. Also, his fixation on the "Jewish roots" of > his followers is nothing more than cultural > appropriation. Wonder if the folks at the AMI > Jerusalem Center have figured this out yet? Good point, Reep. As I mentioned before, according to ancestry.com and 23andme, I am one-quarter Ashkenazi Jew. I knew my grandma Sophie was hiding somethin
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Reep wrote: Changed, I really appreciate how you have been curating and reposting important posts from varous individuals. Thank you. Thanks! After all the information that has come out, I'm a bit surprised (even though I shouldn't be) that Gary Hargrave is making these outrageous claims about himself: "One of the leading prophetic voices to our generation, Gary Hargrave mi
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Reep wrote: I would like to request that you research the nature of cults and cult leaders before you expect people to share their painful memories with you. Yes ForgottenIA, Perhaps a good starting point for you to find more people here "hospitable" to your request, is that you at least provide your full name along with a list of what you have published previously. Right now
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A few posts from September/October 2018: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: howmidoing Date: September 22, 2018 12:47PM Hi Everyone, I have not been on for a long time, nearly a year. I needed to stop thinking about it. I also realized there is nothing I can do. And keep moving forward. But I wanted to tell you and everyone here that something
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Posts by Onion and Larry Bobo from October 2018: Posted by: Onion Date: October 20, 2018 10:42AM Since Gary has announced he wants people to write letters so he can make his "new 360" evaluation, I decided to send him a letter. I don't have any illusions that he will do anything with this information but I at least wanted to take away his ability to say he had never heard of
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ForgottenIA: Thankfully some members have reached out and helped me see that there is much more than the face value of the term "cult", and that many former members are actually very incredible and hospitable individuals. That's surprising? Oh my.
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changedagain Wrote: at the age of 22 actually, 21
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ForgottenIA wrote: Again, I know this is a lot of questions, all the information I’ve been sifting through has been overwhelming. Living this has been overwhelming for most ex-members, especially those born into it. I was fortunate enough to have had a "life" prior to involving myself with this cult at the age of 22, after dropping out of college my junior year (University of Redla
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ForgottenIA, Below is one of the earliest posts about Shiloh. It deals exclusively with that person's summer camp experience as a "young adult." If I recall, almost all the posts on this subject deal with experience, very few (if any) about the decisions that went into designing the physical structure of that place. It's likely that most of those who could provide you with
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Hi ForgottenIA, I suspect most people who have been involved with Shiloh and have written about their experience in this forum (now at 1197 pages) are mentally and emotionally exhausted addressing this topic. The very first post here, back in 2004, was focused on Shiloh and the poster was looking to start a discussion. Of course, this person was met with an overwhelming response. Anyway, don�
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From October of 2018: Posted by: Cloudwatcher Date: October 24, 2018 11:23AM It doesn't matter to any of TLWF who did what because Gary represents God. He can say what he wants when he wants--do what he wants when he wants with impunity. He has layers protecting him--because you do not question God--ever. It is doubtful that anyone left will escape that place now. Gary has it cover
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A post by 'girls_turn_it_off' from February 2018: Date: February 20, 2018 04:59AM Hi - new poster here! I have known about this forum for years, but never looked it up until the other day. Once I started reading I couldn't stop - even after my husband told me to (talk about not submitting my spirit!). I binge read the entire thing, all 500+ pages... There is too much
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The ruinous application of the 'unequal yoke' in the Walk/TLWF: Posted by: larry bobo Date: March 13, 2011 10:08PM (excerpt) It's difficult to understand how those who claim to have a shepherd's heart can be so calloused towards those they have damaged. Behind the divorces for an "unequal yoke" are spouses and kids whose lives have simply been trashed. If t
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reveal wrote: And speaking of “Girls Turn it Off” I was even told by her that the only reason that guy I was dating ever wanted to date me in the first place was because I “beamed it at him” to like me. The message that was needed during that time was "Mom, Turn it Off'...and try being nice every once in a while. What a diabolical mess she was.
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A few post from Oct/Nov of 2016: Posted by: puddington Date: October 23, 2016 07:23AM When I think of Marilyn, I'm reminded of the evil, jealous queen in the Snow White story who said “Magic mirror, on the wall - who is the fairest one of all?” Except in Marilyn's case it was, "Who is taking the focus off of me? Those people have to go." When you got on her sh@t
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Stats: Posts: 11,961 Views: 2,592,726 bonus: Number of posters who have lost their covering: almost all
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Special anniversary today! It has been three years since Shalom posted her Facebook post that went viral. I'm so thankful for her. And I'm so thankful for all the rest of you too. As am I, Reep :)
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Welcome DahliaLost and thank you for posting here. Thankful those years are long gone. YES
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Raised in the fellowship... Posted by: reveal Date: August 18, 2018 05:37AM I’ve thought about posting here for a long time, and have been working on this post for months. I have been wary of it because, as I mentioned in my initial post, I know for a fact that TLWF monitors this site. Creepy! I also just really want to move on with my life, and wasn’t sure if it was the right thing for m
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Also, Marilyn claimed that she cleaned bathrooms in the early days of the Valley church (CLW). That story is utterly laughable, IMO. In fact, I'm laughing right now. If this happened, which I doubt it did, it would have been amusing if a 'little person' walked into the bathroom just as she was finishing the cleaning and declared: "this bathroom is the dirtiest I have ever s
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7. A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor. I recall after I dropped out of college (junior year) to devote myself to bringing forth the Kingdom...I visited a former roommate at the school. After we talked for a while, he suddenly asked 'Where is your sense of humor? I think you need to leave that church.' I did not heed his advice, of course. note: if you've know
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It bears repeating every now and then: Posted by: rrmoderator Date: January 12, 2011 12:28PM To whom it may concern: This is not a message board devoted to religious debates, theology and/or philosophy. Believe whatever you want. The issue is behavior and how the behavior of groups and/or leaders may hurt people. Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader. 1.
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Reep, I vaguely recall each one of them having a story that indicated they did a bit of manual labor. John mentioned in the early days of South Gate, while working on the church, he hammered him thumb rather than a nail...a folksy tidbit he included in sermons a few times. Gary claimed he did carpentry work at the SD church for a day.
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Chicken catching? At least I was spared that. A post by 'fool me twice' from March 2019: Posted by: fool me twice Date: March 23, 2019 08:01AM kbyrne wrote: Yes, and add to that not just the free labor, sub-minimum wage, but the money that was made FOR TLW from kingdom businesses. I don't know how many times I went "chicken catching." What a horrible and
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The Jewel wrote: About five years ago, I had an engineer working for me who was a Church of God PK. I was telling him some of these stories and then I said that I always asked too many Unanswerable questions like, “why no sex before marriage?” To which he replied “Oh, come on…, everyone knows that answer. It’s because sex leads to dancing.” Funny I wonder if Elaine Benes had practiced abstin
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A few posts from February 2019: Posted by: Reepicheep Date: February 20, 2019 07:08AM Richard M., you are awesome for sharing your experiences. I didn't see this when it was on FACTNET, but it is so important that you shared it again. This is epic, and should lay to rest the thinking that the founder of the Walk was anything other than a very skilled conman. I want to believe in Sa
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1979: Posted by: changedagain Date: November 07, 2016 02:49PM The account of John's vision of the Kingdom (which allegedly arrived in December of '79) can be found in the book 'The Shape of Things to Come'. I've had a copy buried for years somewhere in my garage...which I might search for should I ever have a renewed interest in the details of this vision. I do va
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1972--Neighbors arguing politics: Give me one valid reason I should not vote for McGovern. The United States will be plunged into the dark ages for a thousand years. O.K.--besides that?
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