Edith Rosenberg = aunt of Werner Erhard. Sister of Joseph Rosenberg. (1978 Bartley p. 43) Werner Erhard and Patricia Fry = married September 26, 1953 in Trinity Evangelical and Reformed Church, Pennsylvania. (1978 Bartley, pp. 37-38) Clare Rosenberg = daughter of Werner Erhard and Patricia Fry. Born March 13, 1954 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (1978 Bartley p. 40) Clare Rosenberg = also k
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Patricia Fry = First wife of Werner Erhard, when he was known by Jack Rosenberg and John Paul Rosenberg. (1978 Bartley, pp. 32-33) Her maiden name = Patricia Fry. (1978 Bartley, pp. 32-33) After Werner Erhard her 2nd husband's surname was Campbell. As of 1978 she was divorced from her 2nd husband, but still going by name of Pat Campbell. (1978 Bartley, pp. 32-33) Pat Fry Campbell = in 197
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QuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanWerner Erhard family tree Thought it would be useful reference information to have a Werner Erhard family tree posted here, this info will be referenced to publicly available sources and noted as such here: Parents of Werner Erhard = Joe and Dorothy Rosenberg. (1978 Bartley, pp. 4-5) Joseph and Dorothy Rosenberg = both were aged 25 in year 1935, therefore both w
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QuoteajinajanWerner Erhard family tree Thought it would be useful reference information to have a Werner Erhard family tree posted here, this info will be referenced to publicly available sources and noted as such here: Parents of Werner Erhard = Joe and Dorothy Rosenberg. (1978 Bartley, pp. 4-5) Joseph and Dorothy Rosenberg = both were aged 25 in year 1935, therefore both were born appr
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Werner Erhard family tree Thought it would be useful reference information to have a Werner Erhard family tree posted here, this info will be referenced to publicly available sources and noted as such here: Parents of Werner Erhard = Joe and Dorothy Rosenberg. (1978 Bartley, pp. 4-5) Joseph and Dorothy Rosenberg = both were aged 25 in year 1935, therefore both were born approximately 191
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QuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanWerner Erhard 60 Minutes at General Files Anyone ever heard of something called www.general-files.com ? Because they've got the Werner Erhard episode of "60 Minutes" by CBS News file available for play right off of their website streaming. What do people think about this? There's also some relevant background info in this t
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QuoteDopamine LinkOne crucial bit that I left out is the way that the space monkeys infiltrate the dinner where a high ranking official is promising to catch the "underground group responsible for the various acts of vandalism." When this high-ranking official takes a bathroom break he opens the door to find Tyler, who grabs him, throws him to the ground and punches him. The space monke
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QuotebranwerksIt does seem that there's been a bit of censorship of the episode online for as yet unknown reasons and motivations. You said censorship ............ that's what I was referring to when I said editing. Obviously not the same thing. My mistake. Ah okay, yeah I agree there's lots of rampant censorship online related to this issue, hopefully it won't be as bad
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QuotebranwerksThat's curious about the editing surrounding the online episode, as the version that I watched when I followed the link you posted was the first time I've seen this piece, I have no basis for comparison. What do you mean, what editing? What differences were there?
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QuotebranwerksQuite simply, anytime I've followed a link from this site or done a search on my own for the 60 minutes piece, and actually came up with something, when I get to the link, it's been shut down, inactive, removed, etc. I was referring to Dr. Larzelere. He seemed the most honest, unrehearsed, and most importantly, with the least amount of eye movement. The women seemed rehear
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QuotebranwerksThanks for posting this link. Of course I heard about this interview a few years back when I started reading through the forums on this site. Erhard's assistant did the convincing for me. While I haven't perfected my anti-cult awareness I do have my own hard-learned experiences to draw from. I'm going with "soft target" regarding erhard's assistant. I&#
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QuotebranwerksFigured it wasn't going to last long online, they find it & shut it down quickly, they always do. I think there was a download link but I watched it on the general files site page. Was going to save it but once was enough for me. Branwerks, Just curious, where else online have you seen the Werner Erhard episode of 60 Minutes where you've seen it shut down before?
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QuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanWerner Erhard 60 Minutes at General Files Anyone ever heard of something called www.general-files.com ? Because they've got the Werner Erhard episode of "60 Minutes" by CBS News file available for play right off of their website streaming. What do people think about this? There's also some relevant background info in this t
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QuoteajinajanQuoteajinajanWerner Erhard 60 Minutes at General Files Anyone ever heard of something called www.general-files.com ? Because they've got the Werner Erhard episode of "60 Minutes" by CBS News file available for play right off of their website streaming. What do people think about this? There's also some relevant background info in this thread: Mo
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QuoteajinajanWerner Erhard 60 Minutes at General Files Anyone ever heard of something called www.general-files.com ? Because they've got the Werner Erhard episode of "60 Minutes" by CBS News file available for play right off of their website streaming. What do people think about this? There's also some relevant background info in this thread:
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Werner Erhard 60 Minutes at General Files Anyone ever heard of something called www.general-files.com ? Because they've got the Werner Erhard episode of "60 Minutes" by CBS News file available for play right off of their website streaming. What do people think about this?
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Quotepaperlane11Has LM changed it's recruiting efforts lately? I know a few Landmarkians who seem completely sucked into it and have made efforts to recruit me. None of them have succeeded, and they finally have not brought it up. ( so I thought...) Recently I was invited to hear one of them speak at a non LM function by another Landmarkian. The person mentioned that the speaker did n
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legal letter to BoingBoing.net: "I am a lawyer and have represented Werner Erhard since 1990 ..." The New York Times "Werner Erhard, the creator of EST, is a client. ... He also is chairman of Landmark Education, the company formerly known as EST ..." Hired to Bring Order, Kings’ Adviser Brings Peace By Shaila Dewan Published: May 3, 2010 ChillingEffects.org l
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QuoteRyan64I attended a Landmark forum two weeks ago and new nothing of what it was. This is the letter I wrote to my boss after the weekend Dear Friend, First, I do want to thank you for inviting me to the Landmark Forum. I have an even stronger connection to myself, my higher self, to spirit, to the Universe and to God. I had all of my beliefs questioned and put to the test, told that
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Quotepsychological damageI wanted to share my story as Landmark Education are a truley dangerous organisation. I completed their "premier" program, the Introduction Leaders Program and thank god i didn't get to be a representative for them. They pressured me to madly contacting every person i had ever know. They make huge promises to con people into it. I have nevered suffered
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QuoteJohn FoxLife was good for Werner Erhard until his family and some staff members were interviewed by 60 Minutes. The story that went to air subsequently blew away the facade for good, exposing the truth for all to see. Werner Erhard was anything but the success he presented himself to be. You might say that the impact was devastating. Better still, Erhard could tell that the impact of t
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QuoteJohn FoxDidn't Werner have some outstanding tax issue that prevented him from returning to the country? Anyway, couldn't help myself but look up the registration of the neuroleadership.org domain name in case it was an LGAT front group such as the Hunger Project. I think there is a 60 Mins story out there someone on The Hunger Project too. The domain is registered to a "
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QuoteThe AnticultHow many days will pass before he cries his standard Werner Erhard "victim story" to try to get it taken down from Wikileaks? Landmark have been trying to do media propaganda to try to rehabilitate Werner Erhard's image, which of course also completely failed, as in this terrible hoax of a mockumentary. Transformation: The Life and Legacy of Werner Erhard (20
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QuoteJohn FoxLife was good for Werner Erhard until his family and some staff members were interviewed by 60 Minutes. The story that went to air subsequently blew away the facade for good, exposing the truth for all to see. Werner Erhard was anything but the success he presented himself to be. You might say that the impact was devastating. Better still, Erhard could tell that the impact of t
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QuotecaligariSample of a few critical and querying public tweets re:Landmark Forum (names removed): Someone scheduled a Landmark Forum meeting at work tomorrow so I scheduled an appointment at the same time so i could miss it. No Cult THX stay away from the Landmark Forum & Landmark Education. Its a pyramid scheme & a quasi-cult. see culteducation.com. Anyone out there dealt with
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QuoteelenaQuotenettie Sorry for the rambling. I hope you can follow what I have written. It may seem strange to someone who has not been in landmark. But this kind of rambling is going on in the minds of true landmarkers...until you are able to shut every part of your old self down...then MAYBE you can become a forum leader and start doing work for landmark and get paid. Very few make it to the
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Check this out. Basically, this guy training to be a "seminar leader" for Landmark Education in Wisconsin is being charged by the U.S. Government with Wire and Mail Fraud. Not something you would expect for someone trained to lead seminars on "integrity". WKBT Wisconsin News has three versions of articles on it so far: A shorter version: But compare these two versio
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QuoteON2 LFQuoteJohn FoxFound it. Part two of Werner Erhard Exposed on YouTube. John wow. Erhard is sicker and more cruel than I ever imagined. I truly hope that some of his following and 'friends' will find a way to view the videos with some objectivity and just hear the story out. Of course if they view it as a 'story' they will deny its truthfulness, and how clever of
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QuoteThe Anticultanother interesting pattern that comes across in this Landmark promotional video, is how Werner Erhard's personality has not changed. He did say he had a problem with LYING when he was younger! He said that with a straight face. But its interesting when Werner Erhard ran away from the USA, in the PR video, they say he left the USA just before the 60 Minutes broadcast,
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Thank you very much for this summary. Indeed, this promo piece put together with executive producer Walter Maksym, Werner Erhard's attorney, seems like pretty sad silly stuff. QuoteThe AnticultOne other thing about the director/producer/writer/editor of this "film", named Robyn Symon. It does seem its Robyn Symon who is "interviewing" Werner Erhard in the back of
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