QuotecorboyI apologize for this mistake, ajinajan. Thank you for setting me straight. No prob, easy mistake.
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QuoteajinajanWerner Erhard quote on responsibility: Quote"Certainly if I couldn't take responsibility for the difficulties that I've had in my life, I would say that, you know, you'd have to wind up questioning the validity of the ideas that I shared with other people. If I wasn't going to live by those ideas myself, I should be questioned, and the ideas should be ques
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Werner Erhard quote on responsibility: Quote"Certainly if I couldn't take responsibility for the difficulties that I've had in my life, I would say that, you know, you'd have to wind up questioning the validity of the ideas that I shared with other people. If I wasn't going to live by those ideas myself, I should be questioned, and the ideas should be questioned."
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QuotecorboyI have not purchased a new pair of jeans in years. And am very glad I have not recently purchased anything from Gap. Trying to find identities of anonymous discussants is just plain creepy. What does a multimillion dollar clothing company have to fear from just a few people discussing matters, eh? Gap the clothing company is not involved here. This is a different company ca
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Gap International cites Landmark Forum comparison in lawsuit The Underground Bunker tonyortega.org by Tony Ortega "Pennsylvania Lawsuit Is Not About Scientology, But It’s Funny" September 22, 2013 Quote"Pennsylvania Lawsuit Is Not About Scientology, But It’s Funny We noticed folks yesterday getting excited about a partial story at the Lexis news site, Law360.com, whi
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Patricia Fry = first wife of Werner Erhard when he was known as Jack Rosenberg. She remarried in 1965 to man by surname of Campbell. (1978 Bartley pp. 225-227) Works cited: Bartley, William Warren, III. Werner Erhard: The Transformation of a Man: The Founding of est. (1978). New York: Clarkson N. Potter, Inc. Grigoriadis, Vanessa. "Pay Money, Be Happy: For thousands of new yorkers,
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This is an aside, not a relative of Werner Erhard but former associate who later appeared talking about Werner Erhard on the March 3, 1991 broadcast by CBS News of 60 Minutes : Dr. Robert Larzelere = Physician, internist, among the very first medical doctors to take the Mind Dynamics training under Werner Erhard. As an internist he had affiliation with Alta Bates Hospital, and was previously o
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St. John Erhard = son of Werner Erhard and Ellen Virginia Erhard (formerly known as June Bryde). Born June 3, 1968 in California. (1978 Bartley pp. 139-141) Works cited: Bartley, William Warren, III. Werner Erhard: The Transformation of a Man: The Founding of est. (1978). New York: Clarkson N. Potter, Inc. Grigoriadis, Vanessa. "Pay Money, Be Happy: For thousands of new yorkers, hap
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Celeste Erhard = born August 2, 1963 in California. Daughter of Werner Erhard and Ellen Virginia Erhard (formerly known as June Bryde). (1978 Bartley p. 106). Adair Erhard = born December 27, 1964 in California. Daughter of Werner Erhard and Ellen Virginia Erhard. (1978 Bartley p. 116-117). Gonneke Spits = joined office of Parents Magazine publication where Werner Erhard was working in earl
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Kitty Clauson = aunt of Werner Erhard. wife of James Clauson. (1978 Bartley p. 51.) James Clauson = uncle of Werner Erhard. Sister of Dorothy Clauson Rosenberg. Son of William E. Clauson and Bessie George Clauson. Former Police Captain in the Philadelphia Police Department, Pennsylvania. (1978 Bartley, p. 58.) June Bryde = Werner Erhard began relationship with her in January 1959 at age 23,
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Edith Rosenberg = aunt of Werner Erhard. Wife of Al Rosenberg, brother of Joseph Rosenberg. (1978 Bartley p. 43) Werner Erhard and Patricia Fry = married September 26, 1953 in Trinity Evangelical and Reformed Church, Pennsylvania. (1978 Bartley, pp. 37-38) Clare Rosenberg = daughter of Werner Erhard and Patricia Fry. Born March 13, 1954 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (1978 Bartley p. 40) C
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Patricia Fry = First wife of Werner Erhard, when he was known by Jack Rosenberg and John Paul Rosenberg. (1978 Bartley, pp. 32-33) Her maiden name = Patricia Fry. (1978 Bartley, pp. 32-33) After Werner Erhard her 2nd husband's surname was Campbell. As of 1978 she was divorced from her 2nd husband, but still going by name of Pat Campbell. (1978 Bartley, pp. 32-33) Pat Fry Campbell = in 197
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Joan Rosenberg = sister of Werner Erhard. Daughter of Joseph Rosenberg and Dorothy Clauson Rosenberg. Born in May 1948. (1978 Bartley, pp 18-19) Joan Rosenberg = involved as a staff member of Werner Erhard's awareness training companies. (1988 MacNamara) Joan Rosenberg = worked in the staff for EST the company of Werner Erhard known as Erhard Seminars Training. (1993 Pressman, p. 55.) Joa
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Barbara Clauson = sister of Dorothy Clauson Rosenberg. (1978 Bartley, pp. 5-9) Joseph Rosenberg and Dorothy Clauson Rosenberg = married August 20, 1933. A Jewish Rabbi married them in a synagogue. By 1938, Joseph Rosenberg had become a fundamentalist Christian. (1978 Bartley, pp. 5-9) Werner Erhard, as his original birth name Jack Rosenberg, was baptized as John Paul Rosenberg. (1978 Bartle
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Werner Erhard family tree Thought it would be useful reference information to have a Werner Erhard family tree posted here, this info will be referenced to publicly available sources and noted as such here: Parents of Werner Erhard = Joe and Dorothy Rosenberg. (1978 Bartley, pp. 4-5) Joseph and Dorothy Rosenberg = both were aged 25 in year 1935, therefore both were born approximately 191
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QuoteThe Anticultthe cached info from this link is still available at the link below. Copy it before its gone! Its unfortunate that more threads have not been copied from the Google cache, almost all of them are there, but it takes a little know-how to get at them. For example, in this case you.. 1) copy the original link 2) paste that link into the Google search bar, and pres
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The below information is from Werner Erhard: The Transformation of a Man, The Founding of est (1978), by William Warren Bartley. Siblings: Werner Erhard's sister Joan Rosenberg was 5 years old in 1953, therefore birth year approximately 1948. (Bartley pp. 35, 52) Cousins: In the early 1950s Werner Erhard's cousins, siblings Norm Danoff and Anita Danoff, lived in Atlantic Cit
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The below information is from Werner Erhard: The Transformation of a Man, The Founding of est (1978), by William Warren Bartley. Siblings: Quote"In the late summer of 1947, when Werner was twelve, Dorothy became pregnant. ... I was having a hard time with Joe that Werner knew nothing about. I had a crying baby, and a teen-age son who wanted attention." (Bartley p. 19) Werner Erh
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The below information is from Werner Erhard: The Transformation of a Man, The Founding of est (1978), by William Warren Bartley. Father's army service: Joseph Rosenberg finished his army service in Autumn 1945. (Bartley p. 17) Uncle(s): Werner Erhard had an uncle named Al Rosenberg. (Bartley p. 17) Al and Edith Rosenberg are mentioned together in the Acknowledgements section o
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QuoteajinajanWerner Erhard family tree It appears that this thread was lost in the process of Rick Ross updating his site. It was cached by Google located at link: but unfortunately that link is no longer available. This will be a thread documenting family tree research and genealogy related to Werner Erhard, with the caveat that it is all information gleaned from publicly available sourc
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Werner Erhard family tree It appears that this thread was lost in the process of Rick Ross updating his site. It was cached by Google located at link: but unfortunately that link is no longer available. This will be a thread documenting family tree research and genealogy related to Werner Erhard, with the caveat that it is all information gleaned from publicly available sources previously
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QuoteajinajanEdith Rosenberg = aunt of Werner Erhard. Sister of Joseph Rosenberg. (1978 Bartley p. 43) Werner Erhard and Patricia Fry = married September 26, 1953 in Trinity Evangelical and Reformed Church, Pennsylvania. (1978 Bartley, pp. 37-38) Clare Rosenberg = daughter of Werner Erhard and Patricia Fry. Born March 13, 1954 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (1978 Bartley p. 40) Clare Rosen
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Bessie George Clauson = grandmother of Werner Erhard, resided in California in 1973. (1978 Bartley pp. 238-239) Aunt Ethel = aunt of Werner Erhard, resided in California in 1973. (1978 Bartley pp. 238-239) Don Clauson = cousin of Werner Erhard, resided in California in 1973. (1978 Bartley pp. 238-239) Norman Danoff = cousin of Werner Erhard, in 1973 resided in California and was an adver
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Quoteajinajan Harry Rosenberg = brother of Werner Erhard. Son of Joseph Rosenberg and Dorothy Clauson Rosenberg. Born January 1950. (1978 Bartley, pp 24-25) Harry Rosenberg = CEO of Landmark Education. (1998 Hukill) Harry Rosenberg = at age of 23 in 1973, Harry Rosenberg moved form Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to San Francisco, California to start work for EST the company of Werner Erhard kno
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QuoteajinajanPatricia Fry = first wife of Werner Erhard when he was known as Jack Rosenberg. She remarried in 1965 to man by surname of Campbell. (1978 Bartley pp. 225-227) Works cited: Bartley, William Warren, III. Werner Erhard: The Transformation of a Man: The Founding of est. (1978). New York: Clarkson N. Potter, Inc. Grigoriadis, Vanessa. "Pay Money, Be Happy: For thousands of
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Patricia Fry = first wife of Werner Erhard when he was known as Jack Rosenberg. She remarried in 1965 to man by surname of Campbell. (1978 Bartley pp. 225-227) Works cited: Bartley, William Warren, III. Werner Erhard: The Transformation of a Man: The Founding of est. (1978). New York: Clarkson N. Potter, Inc. Grigoriadis, Vanessa. "Pay Money, Be Happy: For thousands of new yorkers,
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This is an aside, not a relative of Werner Erhard but former associate who later appeared talking about Werner Erhard on the March 3, 1991 broadcast by CBS News of 60 Minutes : Dr. Robert Larzelere = Physician, internist, among the very first medical doctors to take the Mind Dynamics training under Werner Erhard. As an internist he had affiliation with Alta Bates Hospital, and was previously o
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St. John Erhard = son of Werner Erhard and Ellen Virginia Erhard (formerly known as June Bryde). Born June 3, 1968 in California. (1978 Bartley pp. 139-141) Works cited: Bartley, William Warren, III. Werner Erhard: The Transformation of a Man: The Founding of est. (1978). New York: Clarkson N. Potter, Inc. Grigoriadis, Vanessa. "Pay Money, Be Happy: For thousands of new yorkers, ha
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Celeste Erhard = born August 2, 1963 in California. Daughter of Werner Erhard and Ellen Virginia Erhard (formerly known as June Bryde). (1978 Bartley p. 106). Adair Erhard = born December 27, 1964 in California. Daughter of Werner Erhard and Ellen Virginia Erhard. (1978 Bartley p. 116-117). Gonneke Spits = joined office of Parents Magazine publication where Werner Erhard was working in earl
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Kitty Clauson = aunt of Werner Erhard. Sister of Dorothy Clauson Rosenberg. Daughter of William E. Clauson and Bessie George Clauson. (1978 Bartley p. 51.) James Clauson = uncle of Werner Erhard. Sister of Dorothy Clauson Rosenberg. Son of William E. Clauson and Bessie George Clauson. Former Police Captain in the Philadelphia Police Department, Pennsylvania. (1978 Bartley, p. 58.) June Bryd
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