Quote"rrmoderator"The spam problem is being worked on and will be resolved. There is no "conspiracy." Just some software problems that need to be addressed. Hi rrmoderator, okey dokey, just me being paranoid :roll: The Shadow
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Quote"question lady"rswinters contacted me via off site e-mail & asked me to post this as a courtesy. evidently, rs resigned as a member of the forum but it appears he has received a couple of messages via PM on the site which he is now unable to retrieve. He just wanted anyone who mailed him to know this. Thanks thanks, question lady, if you talk to him you can
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Hi again, SaneAgain. I was supposed to go out for dinner tonight, but it has become very hot and I don't feel up to the long drive. I had to see my Doctor (who is a South African) this afternoon; originally I had made the appointment because I thought I might need to get some sleeping pills - this Landmark/EST business has taken its toll on me, has caused me extreme anxiety. Anyway,
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Hi SaneAgain, Your "moniker" says it all, eh? Sound like you are on the road to healing,; and like I will tell my friend, we all make mistakes, and I think we get drawn into these types of "movements" because we are told not to discriminate. But if you look up that word you will find that it is not a bad word. We have to discriminate, we have to decide w
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I have read your posts, Mauxi, and i find them confusing and self-contradictory. Initially your misrepresented yourself, and withheld critical information, then berated people for their comments. This particular forum is entitled Quest, so I will not accept responsibility for you feeling "offended"... I (and perhaps other) assumed that you had done the Quest forum. You, i
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Hi Elena, Thanks for the clarification and additions to my comments. Another point I am trying to stress is that while people sign documents, and are under the impression that they cannot sue Landmark/EST, I think the issue of INFORMED consent has been missed. No matter what they call it, they can call it process, but they are merely manipulating words, and eventually they will get cau
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Hi Vic-Luc, hmmmm, feedback noted...I see what you mean...but I am not prepared to just cut her loose. OK, so I will have to rethink this... I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT NOT NOT :roll: going to sign up with the Landmark/EST Junkies....first of all because I do not have the money, and second of all because I do not have the stamina (I have a physical handicap and I get very tired very quickly) and
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you are welcome RR, and THANK YOU! - my friends and family were getting really worried about me, so preoccupied was I about Landmark/EST. You have given me an outlet, and I do feel much better. I have decided that I might have to seek out one of my instructor/counsellors to debried a bit about this, and do something about my anxiety. Anyway, thanks again, I do not feel quite so alone.
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I did not realize geocities was that! - boy, am I stupid! anyway, Bro. Brandon Titsworth, as a very learned person once told me: "If someone wants to give you a gift, and that turns out to be something horrible that is going to hurt you, you have every right to not accept the gift" - can you guess who that learned man was?
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Quote"Excalibur"Smearing Rick Ross, huh? Well, I have one thing to say about that: RICK ROSS FOR PRESIDENT!!!! I'd vote for him. ...cute! - i'll vote for him!
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Quote"Brandon_T"in the words of John Lennon "Can't we just give peace a chance." Why dont we all just start getting along instead of name calling each other all the time. Why waste your time and energy trying to change groups that are growing let people believe what they want. That the first step to trying to stop the violence and hate between
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Quote"Rswinters"Not sure if this is connected. But earlier tonight at the same time the forum was getting spammed agian. My McAfee virus scanned blocked a series of invasive programs that was connected to a trojan. My virus scan it blocked access to this from happening to my computer. Which I was online and connected to this forum only on my computer. It blocked it fr
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Dear Rswinters. so sorry, clearly there has been a misunderstanding here and I did not mean anything malevolent by my question. I just was not sure what your were saying about judging...this is sometimes a problem with typing, and letter writing, one looses much without tone of voice, the odd chuckle, etc. Please accept my apologies if I have hurt your feelings as that was not my intention
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MartinH. What's WE? And absolutely NO FEAR....I am absolutely NOT going near that Landmark/EST office ever again!
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typo error; ".....I hope she is not signing up for the next SLEP course in Vancouver...."
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*sigh*, a rose by any other name, eh? or Landmark/Est, quest, Insight... doggy poo poo by any other name still stinks... Hi SaneAgain, I understand that you are feeling very angry at been used so badly....I think my friend might be feeling that also, but not really understanding, that is why she lashed out at her boyfriend on night, and the very next night she lashed out at me. I phoned t
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post script. also, how can I tell if "eliwig", (who posted a request for people to e-mail him because he is writing an article for a men's magazine) is not a "plant" for ? If I e-mail him could he track me down?
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families

thank you rrmoderator, I appreciate your continued vigilance in this matter. I am determined to "rescue" or attempt to rescue my friend from the clutches of Landmark/EST, before she does the course in October. ... ...I am trying to find books on deprogramming as I am determined to do whatever I can to "win" my friend back..... Please give a sugge
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I would just like to add: I want to call it like it is! - Landmark "Education" Corporation IS EST. 50% OF Landmark/EST's pre-tax profits go to Werner Erhard, and in 2009 the "technology" will revert back to him. Erhard's brother, Harry Rosenbers is the current CEO, and his sister is listed as a director. The fact of the matter is, Landmark
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*sigh* :( I'm afraid you are right...I think I already knew that...she is already manifesting signs of an imminent crash...I guess I am just going to have to wait it out and see. Thanks. But if anyone has any suggestions on how I can help her please let me know. Right now I am just sticking as close to her as I can, giving her "unconditional (well, somewhat unconditional) lo
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Hi Mindconcern, If you are in Canada you could check the Kaiser website which lists all Legimate treatment centers. Or the Red Book. Or phone a reputable Psychologist and ask them. Good Luck.
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Sorry moderator, i think i sent you the message instead of "coldnoseandfluffytails" - i haven't quite figure out how to use this messaging system properly.
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Quote"Coldnosesandfluffytails"Quote"rrmoderator"Your post may just have failed approval. Not a glitch in the system that I am aware of. Regarding "brainwashing" See Adverstising is different. See Having reviewed this site, clearly mine is not the first non sequitor, highly speculative and/or emotionally charged observation
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Quote"eliwig"I'm writing a story for a men's magazine about Landmark Forum — specifically people who got into it through their workplace. I'm also interested in talking with friends and family of such people. If you're willing to share your experience (even anonymously) please email me through my profile here ASAP. Thanks for your help! hi Eliwig, I
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Hi Vic-Luc I wish I had seen this RR forum in May-June/ that was when my friend did her first course - and I think she did the Advanced Course a month later - maybe I would have been able to talk her out of it - but probably not - she is going to have to borrow money to do the SELP course, unless of course she is "volunteering" her time (cleaning toilets at the Landmark/EST o
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Hi elena, I disagree that it is only the "dimwits" who fall into the LGAT trap. My friend is far from being a dimwit. But she was introduced by someone she loved and trusted at a time when she was particularly vulnerable. I had been trying to persuade her to get some help for minor depression, but she would not take my advice to consider a short course of chemical anti-dep
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Quote"Maxui"It was a cold morning- I arrived at the venue and after handing over my details was quickly ushered inside and made to sit on a hard bench closer to the person next to me then I would have liked. The music started playing and we all stood up and waited as a man walked down the isle and took up his place on the podium. He started off on a tirade about how we wer
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oh, i see, i think i know what a Smapbot is now, i am not going to click on them just in case.....
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postscript, i meant "spambot" - I know what spam is but i don't know what a spambot is; anyway, I am new to this RR site. I have just spent the better part of three days researching all thing Landmark/EST on this RR webpage, for which I am very grateful. My friend's mind has been captured by the Landmark/EST group - they have an office in downtown Vancouver, BC,
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Hi Rswinters, just to clarify -- are you being sarcastic when you state "judging is negative" or do you really think that? We judge all the time. We make good judgement calls and bad judgement calls. But perhaps I misunderstood what you were saying. on the topic of Spambot - what is a Smapbot?
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