Actually believe myself it was Gods way of removing a false prophet. Judgmental, I know I know. Take me to task. But he was instrumental in spreading doctrines that are antithetical to core Christian beliefs that have been taught for millenia. May God be mercifull to him.
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DJTD2008, I sincerely hope that your present situation lasts long term. However, I feel the need to share with you that based on what I have observed in the lives of numerous friends, it won't. I know nothing about you other than what you posted. But please do not take all the concerns posted on this forum lightly. My advice is get in a good church and go to God and His word for your solutio
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The list of recommended reading is full of books containing the same philosophy you seem to abhor at psi. Brian Klemmer, for example, is a former psi man. H e even mentions Tom Willhite as his mentor.
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Just a tongue-in-cheek observation to you, Rswintwers. It may be awhile till you lose the jargon. ......" I am not coming from a place of ignorance".... typical Klem-jargon :)
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Rswinters, thanks for your reply. It would be interesting to some of us to know more of what it was that ,in your words, opened your eyes. Also, are there others who went through the program with? How are they doing as a result ? How is your relationship with them since you withdrew as a promoter of K&A? Best wishes to you as you seek answers. Mt 6:33. God bless.
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QuoteDiverGuyfirebrand, (based on the message from the moderator and the missing posts, I will assume my reply was also a casualty) This is a shorter, hopefully legal, version of my response: * In my experience, K&A does not 'target' Christians. In fact, to my knowledge, they do not do any marketing. The only advertising is word of mouth. So if you believe Christians
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one you missed is Klemmer and associates, Brian Klemmer of PSI world
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pink79, would this seminar have been by Klemmer & Associates by any chance?
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Thank you Europe-girl and on2 life for your observations. It's good to know there is hope for my friends who have bean thru the Brian Klemmer seminars. Maybe someday soon they will be able to see how their behaviour and jargon really sounded to the rest of us. The attitude of superiority and "I am enlightened, I have the answers, and I got it all in a few short seminars"
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Cultspeak: Why are you trying to make me wrong? You are out of integrity! I am sensing some resistance here. I am open to the possibility....... yada yada......... :roll:
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I have bean very fascinated to read and observe the postings by DG and other K&A disciples. It is typical of what my friends say, but I must say that DG is wAAAAAAAAAAAAAy beyond them when it comes to being hard-core. :shock: DG, one of Klemmers catch phrases is "go by results". Well, the results I have seen in my friends have left me wishing they had never gone. They ha
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Hi, Jack Oskar Larm I noticed you posted on another thread about Klemmer & Associates. You seem to have knowledge of Landmark semi8nars. Thanks for yor comments on how to deal with graduates of landmark. But the behaviour described in this thread is very similar to what I have observed in my Klemmer enthusiast friends. No surprise, really, seeing as they all have the same orrigins
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Diverguy, thanks for the advice on how to communicate with my friends. But just to clarify, most of them have bean thru the entire course. And, duly noted, it does not affect everyone the same way. For instance, one of my friends who was very introverted and self conscious has becomr more confident. And I find he is very sensitive to how the "speak" comes across to us regular guys, s
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Sounds like DG is a Klemmer agent posing as a devotee......bout time you got on the stick with damage control! :wink:
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Hey Diverguy, thanks for posting. And I'm sure there are some good aspects to K & A. What drives me up the wall is the insistence of the graduates that this is just THE best thing since Oxygen was invented and we, the uninitiated, are all closed minded and ignorant. Every time we have a casual conversation, they insist on using some of their jargon, and they really use klem-logic
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I have some friends who have gone through the entire series of courses. It appears to be similar to Landmark and PSI. In fact, Brian Klemmer, the founder, often refers to Tom Willhite as his friend and mentor. I believe this is the same Tom who started PSI. I am still trying to figure out what the long term effects will be on my friends. They come back enthusiastically promoting the semmina
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Does anyone have any info pertaining to Klemmer & Associates, a company founded by Brian Klemmer? A number of my friends from church are attending his seminars and are returning with a lot of the same language that i read comes out of PSI and Landmark. I have listened to a cassette series called "The pursuit and practice of personal mastery",by Brian Klemmer and it's all ab
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